BRP going to help me out

[Bob Denman]

She should be posting trip reports.....not repair reports. nojoke

:agree: Let the "Good Times"; get to rolling! :2thumbs:

 

[Dan McNally]

I'm happy for you that BRP is doing the right thing! You need to be able to do more riding and less repairing! nojoke

 

[jtoro1]

Carlo and chantal helped me out too got me a $165 credit , nice for any repairs , when we had a F16 that did not want to stay fixed we whould call it a hanger queen. Did you notice how many miles they drove to pick up the bike 666 not good.Hope BRP will take care of your scooter like they did me.

 

[Jeriatric]

Carlo and chantal helped me out too got me a $165 credit , nice for any repairs , when we had a F16 that did not want to stay fixed we whould call it a hanger queen. Did you notice how many miles they drove to pick up the bike 666 not good.Hope BRP will take care of you scooter like they did me.

Hanger queen....... It's been a long time.

 

[3 Wheel Addict]

:agree: Let the "Good Times"; get to rolling! :2thumbs:

Hey, that's a Kawasaki thing that don't fit here..... :roflblack::roflblack:

 

[Yazz]

Hoping the best for y'all... ray:ray:ray:

 

[Pincushion]

When I meet Carlo back in 2011 at Spyderfest, he gave me his card and mentioned his name was spelled correctly. He thought it was funny that so many people called him Carlos. :joke:

 

[hotglue]

I am really hoping they find an answer... replacing the failed parts is not going to fix the problem..... heat is killing this bike... one part at a time....

 

[bruiser]

Glad to hear it.

 

[Michael211_2000]

Question: Why did the OS sensor blow out stripping all the threads though? Either it was cross-threaded to begin with (ruining the threads, only a matter of time before it worked it's way loose and popped out) or there was some kind of pressure buildup in the exhaust system... or something else? I'm curious why it did what it did... please be sure to ask when you pick up your roadster and report back!

An inquiring mind would like to know.

ps. If it'd been mine and stranded so far from home, I think I'd have tried JB welding that sucker back into the pipe... it'd never come out again that's for certain! LOL!

- Michael

 

[Mo Lee]

Actually, he was Carlo too, not Carlos.

Carlo is the one that I lost in the Ozarks hills back at Spyderfest 2011 (Great Guy) I sure hope it is the same one because he was always helpful to Spyderlovers.


I know everyone is bashing BRP and the Spyder, however let's remember FB has had a lot of heat issues and I'll bet the 02 sensor has been removed and installed many times during the troubleshooting process and probably was not installed correctly by a Mechanic. Just my 2 cents.

 

[jcthorne]

Question: Why did the OS sensor blow out stripping all the threads though? Either it was cross-threaded to begin with (ruining the threads, only a matter of time before it worked it's way loose and popped out) or there was some kind of pressure buildup in the exhaust system... or something else? I'm curious why it did what it did... please be sure to ask when you pick up your roadster and report back!

An inquiring mind would like to know.

ps. If it'd been mine and stranded so far from home, I think I'd have tried JB welding that sucker back into the pipe... it'd never come out again that's for certain! LOL!

- Michael

JB Weld would not help here. FAR too hot in that location. The O2 sensor and exhaust header pipe operate in the 1400deg F range under WOT conditions, about 800 light throttle cruising.

If an O2 sensor is removed and replaced more than a small number of times (officially one) the compression washer needs to be replaced. If it is not, when the exhaust threaded bung heats up and expands, the threads are put under severe load and eventually pop as happened here. More heat, more load on the threads. Its not pressure in the pipe that failed the threads, its heat. Over torqueing can also cause this. The torque spec is surprisingly low for a thread of that diameter. With a hand ratchet, just past snug is all that is needed.

 

[Mo Lee]

JB Weld would not help here. FAR too hot in that location. The O2 sensor and exhaust header pipe operate in the 1400deg F range under WOT conditions, about 800 light throttle cruising.

If an O2 sensor is removed and replaced more than a small number of times (officially one) the compression washer needs to be replaced. If it is not, when the exhaust threaded bung heats up and expands, the threads are put under severe load and eventually pop as happened here. More heat, more load on the threads. Its not pressure in the pipe that failed the threads, its heat. Over torqueing can also cause this. The torque spec is surprisingly low for a thread of that diameter. With a hand ratchet, just past snug is all that is needed.

Maybe a wrap of tin can around the threads, then get rough with screwing it in and creatively wrapping it in with mechanics wire might have got it home. I'm sure the best answer was what they done, simply trailering it home.

 

[Shewhoprays]

I hope BRP realizes how competent both flamingobabe and Mark are when it comes to motorcycles and spyders. The fact that what they have been going through since she picked up her ST, the money they have spent, the anguish, the lost ryding time, etc... they could be blasting BRP all over the airwaves....BUT that's not their style. PLEASE BRP I hope you are listening and REALLY will take care of this situation. Make us all proud to be apart of the BRP family of spyder owners.

 

[jcthorne]

I am betting the installation of a new head pipe and O2 sensor along with the warranty campaign announced last week will get her ST back on the road and somewhat cooler. Her pipes are already wrapped and they will need to wrap the new one.

I would replace the rear head pipe and O2 sensor for good measure but doubt BRP will spring for that as it has not failed yet.

 

[Bob Denman]

I hope BRP realizes how competent both flamingobabe and Mark are when it comes to motorcycles and spyders. The fact that what they have been going through since she picked up her ST, the money they have spent, the anguish, the lost ryding time, etc... they could be blasting BRP all over the airwaves....BUT that's not their style. PLEASE BRP I hope you are listening and REALLY will take care of this situation. Make us all proud to be apart of the BRP family of spyder owners.

:agree: Thanks for saying it!! :2thumbs:

 

[BRPcare]

Carlo is the one that I lost in the Ozarks hills back at Spyderfest 2011 (Great Guy) I sure hope it is the same one because he was always helpful to Spyderlovers.

Yes, it is the same Carlo that you met and remember. Great guy and now that he's back we'll be working closely together.

 

[SpyderAnn01]

Yes, it is the same Carlo that you met and remember. Great guy and now that he's back we'll be working closely together.

Glad to hear that Carlo is back. He was always very helpful

 

[wyliec]

Yes, it is the same Carlo that you met and remember. Great guy and now that he's back we'll be working closely together.

Glad to hear the original Carlo is back. Always liked talking to him. He's quite knowledgable and was always willing to help.:thumbup:

 

[flamingobabe]

Not sure which pipe is rear...but the one that the O2 sensor plugs into...the threads inside the hole are gone on one side...same as sensor...is that the rear pipe...just got the call...dealer is picking up spyder in a few...woohoo.....need it fixed and on the road

I am betting the installation of a new head pipe and O2 sensor along with the warranty campaign announced last week will get her ST back on the road and somewhat cooler. Her pipes are already wrapped and they will need to wrap the new one.

I would replace the rear head pipe and O2 sensor for good measure but doubt BRP will spring for that as it has not failed yet.