Braking in a turn

[Fat Baxter]

First post!

I'm awaiting delivery of a 2014 RT-S, and I read the do's and don'ts sticky. I still have a question about braking in a turn. The general consensus is "don't do it, 'cause the Nanny doesn't like it," but if I read the sticky correctly, that warning is aimed more at riding the brake pedal in general. What if I find myself in a decreasing radius turn, and I want to brake some more? I asked my dealer about it when I took a test ride, and he didn't know.

Will the Nanny give me crap if I brake in a turn? What would that feel like?

BTW, I'm coming off a '99 BMW R1100RT, after riding Beemers for 30+ years.

 

[BajaRon]

First post!

I'm awaiting delivery of a 2014 RT-S, and I read the do's and don'ts sticky. I still have a question about braking in a turn. The general consensus is "don't do it, 'cause the Nanny doesn't like it," but if I read the sticky correctly, that warning is aimed more at riding the brake pedal in general. What if I find myself in a decreasing radius turn, and I want to brake some more? I asked my dealer about it when I took a test ride, and he didn't know.

Will the Nanny give me crap if I brake in a turn? What would that feel like?

BTW, I'm coming off a '99 BMW R1100RT, after riding Beemers for 30+ years.

Ideally, you should do all of your braking before you enter the turn. But we all know that doesn't always happen.

You're way over thinking this. Just do what you have to do and the Nanny will do what she thinks is best. It's no big deal.

Remember, a fair chunk of what you paid went to cover your nanny....

 

[mtdoragary]

Ideally, you should do all of your braking before you enter the turn. But we all know that doesn't always happen.

You're way over thinking this. Just do what you have to do and the Nanny will do what she thinks is best. It's no big deal.

Remember, a fair chunk of what you paid went to cover your nanny....

Nanny handles it fine. It'll handle a LOT more than you can give it!

 

[zamfield]

Trust your bike... Engine braking will help a lot and you'll be surprisedhhow much you can throw it in to the corners. Of course the Bajaron Sway bar will help!
Braking in corners on the Can Am is similar to braking on a two wheeled bike... In so much as it'll try to change your line.

You may find yourself riding the brake at first but you'll get more confident of its abilities the more you ride it same as any new bike really.

 

[900Dave]

I dont brake in the corner, unless I suddenly realize I went in too fast. Normally I roll of the throttle going in the corner and in the middle of the corner I roll back on the throttle and excelerate on the way out.

 

[cuznjohn]

i slow down b4 a corner and mostly have the engine breaking do the work, however since i put the the highway pegs n the bike i find the corners much easier because i was using my knees to hold me in a turn and now the pegs help so much using my legs in corners

 

[Princeau99]

I agree with Ron

Ideally, you should do all of your braking before you enter the turn. But we all know that doesn't always happen.

You're way over thinking this. Just do what you have to do and the Nanny will do what she thinks is best. It's no big deal.

Remember, a fair chunk of what you paid went to cover your nanny....

You may be over thinking this as a problem. Sometimes I go into a curve and may be too hot, so I jab the breaks to slow down. Don't know if the nanny kicked in (may have) and that is how it should be.
Ride the way you want, have fun. You may have to relearn how to ride. I also came from years of two wheeler and it's taken almost 1000 miles to feel comfortable.

 

[jerpinoy]

:welcome: and enjoy your ride and take your time and know nanny well.

 

[ARtraveler]

:congrats: and :welcome:

It is easy to overthink issues while waiting for the new :spyder2:. The other posters have all given good advice.

A learning curve of 500 or slightly more miles will answer most of your questions for sure. Those with a lot of two wheeled experience usually take a little more miles to unlearn "bad habits." I will admit to about 1500 miles before I felt really comfortable.

You have to be pushing the envelope pretty good for "nanny" to kick in on curves. I have never lit up the nanny on curves, and I drive a lot of them here in Alaska. The nanny has lit up twice for me on hydroplaning issues though. (Don't drive more than 50 mph through standing water).

Hope you enjoy your new Spyder as much as I do.

 

[Bob Denman]

...ride the bike...
Nanny will do her best to keep from from ending-up in a "Page One Story"...

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I dont brake in the corner, unless I suddenly realize I went in too fast.

Nanny does that for me! When I was going to, and especially when I was coming from, SITR in N. CA nanny kicked in several times, especially on the corners that were signed at 15 and 20 MPH. Twice I heard the outside front tire squeal. Don't know if it was sliding sideways on the asphalt or if nanny stomped on the brake hard enough to make it squeal. She sure got my attention every time she slowed me down, but that experience really gave me confidence in the cornering stability of my RT.

 

[bmccaffrey]

The proper way and it always dont happen is to brake before the corner and accelerate through.
Don't over think it:yes:

 

[Roadster Renovations]

Once you learn what the nanny will allow, you can integrate your riding with her style of control. I sometimes think I can do more than she allows, but she is afterall based upon certain parameters that probably used the lowest skilled riders to base it upon for safety. One thing I did to really learn her control under a controlled safe situation was to do some really tight turns in a parking lot. With the wheel speed sensors and the inertial sensor, it is almost impossible to flip the bike. Once you learn what she can do, you ride right up to the edge where she "takes" over. I am hoping that eventually later versions will have adaptive learning to decrease the override based upon a rider's skillset. That would be the next best thing. The nanny does her job well. You will be in good hands.

 

[Bob Denman]

Oh! :welcome: Don't forget to post some bikes of you and your bike for us! :2thumbs:

 

[BikerDoc]

The proper way and it always dont happen is to brake before the corner and accelerate through.
Don't over think it:yes:

:agree: however,, braking in the corner when you feel you are going too fast can cause you to loose control and the bike to float hard right... brake before the curve (more than you feel you need to at first) and then accelerate through the curve (less than is fun to begin with) and work your way up
After years of practice, I seldom take a curve at less than twice the posted speed.

 

[Bob Denman]

...Which keeps you on a "First-Name" basis; with the local Constables!

 

[Marker]

I am a newby to spyder rydeing never had a motorcycle before. I rode the dragon in may 2014 and probably braked alot in some of the corners and the nanny covered me whatever came her way.

Just get out and enjoy the ride. I ride my spyder like I ride snowmobiles and ATV's I lean a little going into the corners and helps with the turn and keeps you planted on the seat.

 

[gnirtsnod]

:welcome: and enjoy your ride and take your time and know nanny well.

I tell people that you can screw up on a Spyder but the nanny makes it much harder. Approach corners safely, always. Once you get used to it, roll on it once you're into the curve and APPRECIATE what nanny will do for you. If you get real hot, the brake on the outside front wheel will engage. How do I know? Two trips through the Dragon taught me to appreciate nanny's attention to detail. ...Don

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I seldom take a curve at less than twice the posted speed.

A 55 MPH curve at 110??? :hun: :hun: :dontknow: :dontknow: :lecturef_smilie: :lecturef_smilie:

 

[zamfield]

A 55 MPH curve at 110??? :hun: :hun: :dontknow: :dontknow: :lecturef_smilie: :lecturef_smilie:

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