Another Thread about Heat And The RTs

[SocalT]

Okay I will chime in

Have 20K on my RT-S here in Southern California and I never experienced hot foot until about a month ago. I had stock pegs for 19 of that 20. I put on the Seal Floorboards and my foot is definitely warmer. Now everyone hold on as I do not think it is the floorboards, but I do think that it is a little mass hysteria on my part (just started reading about these hot foot issues) and the riding so far this year has been in some ugly temps, not here in San Diego . It seems there is more complaints this particular year than any other, idk maybe it just hot everywhere this year. I wear tennis shoes 99.9% time (.1% flip-flops). I installed the spyder pops lower along with the seal's and the heat was no better or worse. So in conclusion after all this rambling: I will continue to ride and hope for cool days, btw headed to Sturgis today and should see some high temps going through Nevada and such.

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[Bob Denman]

Have a safe and fun trip! :thumbup:

 

[Bob Denman]

I'd like to see a picture of THAT! :shocked: :thumbup:

 

[Harley]

By account of owners of this mod, Baker Wings are helpful in this issue (I do not own them). In the summer time, you can set the wings to deflect the heat, while in the winter they can be use to contain the heat in the area. Like I said, I am just repeating what Baker Wing owners have reviewed...:dontknow:

As a Baker Air Wing owner, you are correct. No problem with heat since having them installed. Wouldn't ride without them now with this weather....(100 deg. plus)

 

[flaggerphil]

Neither my wife or I have had any issues with excess heat on our RT-AC...none. Some other RT ryders I know in Central Florida talked about it and none of them have had a problem, either. Not saying others haven't had a problem, just know that I haven't and neither have others in the area I ryde with.

 

[Doodah]

After reading several threads discussing the "heat problem" and possible solutions, I have to wonder why some people find it unbearable and other report that they have no problems. After all, everything is the same ... or is it?

I don't have any problem with heat even with tennis shoes, but I believe the people who say it's a serious problem. I have to wonder, is it possible that the riding position (most likely due to leg length) could affect the aerodynamics enough to cause the heat to directed towards some people's feet and away from others?

Height: 6', inseam: 33" = no heat problem

 

[Flight Risk]

After reading several threads discussing the "heat problem" and possible solutions, I have to wonder why some people find it unbearable and other report that they have no problems. After all, everything is the same ... or is it?

I don't have any problem with heat even with tennis shoes, but I believe the people who say it's a serious problem. I have to wonder, is it possible that the riding position (most likely due to leg length) could affect the aerodynamics enough to cause the heat to directed towards some people's feet and away from others?

Height: 6', inseam: 33" = no heat problem

When I try to put my feet up on the top of my Seal Floorboards Delux, the hot air comes out of the right shoot with the fan, goes up my pant leg and it honestly feels like it is going to burn my flesh off. That position puts my foot in front of the hot air opening.

Height: 5' 9 1/2", inseam: 34" = major heat problem :banghead:

 

[rhansen309]

I have the Spyder Pops blocking plate and do not get any heat from there. I do get heat from the tupperwear since it looks loose. But it is not too bad, just a bit warm. Just adding my 2 cents worth!!!


:bdh:

 

[BaldEagle]

Wind plays a part.

Hey all. I noticed that the heat from the bike is the hottest when I'm cruising and the wind is blowing into the right side of the bike. Different direction...no heat. Wind blowing from the right...blisters!:yikes: Easy fix...always head in the direction that has the wind blowing from the left.:doorag::hun:

 

[Jeriatric]

My Rt was one of the ones with blistering heat issues. I do ride with boots and on a 95 degree day had to pull over and take off my boot, because it was flat on fire and no denying it. My foot was red and swollen and pretty tought to get back into my boot. My wife complained that her right side was too toasty as well.

Got the SpyderPops top block off plate and cat shields, which my wife loved, but did little for my flaming foot. Added the FanCan and now my foot was finally comfortable. It does tend to blow heat up through the gap between the seat and tupperware to some degree and wife complains a bit more, but at least we're out riding. There would be no way I would be able to put up with the flamin foot when temps got to be 10+ degrees hotter.

I've thought about taking off the FanCan and cutting holes in the swoop area, but that's a pretty permenant mod. If it did the same or more for blowing air around the seat, I would essentially damage the bike for no gain.

I have not tried blocking off the bottom port only and leaving the top open. It just seems it would redirect more air on the boss and she wouldn't be too happy about that. Perhaps someone could chime in who's tried the combo and tell us the result?


So I guess the heat around the seat is self inflicted, but still sure beats the heck out of a flamin foot. Stock was absolutely unbearable in Phoenix, so something had to be done.

Trust me we're not imagining in. I have about 300k on 2 wheelers, some hot, most not. I went as far as taking IR temp shots when i first got Spyder. Right tennis shoe would read at least 20 degrees higher than left. I plugged the bottom hole and put on cat shields and now the readings are only a couple of degrees different.

I have the Seal Floorboards Delux on my RT. All I know is Texas is :cus:'ing HOT and my bike generates massive amounts of heat that just adds to it. I wear boots and my right foot feels like it is on fire most of the time. I move my feet around a lot........like jumping beans trying to get relief. My right shin also gets blasted. Not fun at all.

Fact.

The Spyders operating temperature is controlled by water & air flow. The thermostat opens around 167 degrees and the radiator fan comes on around 216 degrees.

While ambient air mixes with heat coming off the radiator and out the right lower vent. It's ability to cool the 200 plus degree heat being generated by the engine and released by the radiator is relative to the ambient temperature one is riding in. Thus, the higher the ambient temperature one is riding in plays a major role in how much heat is released through the lower right radiator vent. A vent, that is directly in front of the riders right foot when using the stock pegs.

Facts are facts, and if you live and ride in the Southwest this will make sense to you.


Human skin response to heat.

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[TD]Normal human oral/body temperature

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[TD]44

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[TD]111

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[TD]Human skin begins to feel pain

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[TD]48

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[TD]118

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[TD]Human skin receives a first degree burn injury

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[TD]55

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[TD]131

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[TD]Human skin receives a second degree burn injury

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[TD]62

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[TD]140

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[TD]A phase where burned human tissue becomes numb

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[TD]72

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[TD]162

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[TD]Human skin is instantly destroyed

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[TD]Water boils and produces steam

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http://www.nist.gov/fire/fire_behavior.cfm

 

[Doodah]

Facts are facts, and if you live and ride in the Southwest this will make sense to you.

Nice facts, but no conclusion. How do you explain the testimony from those who report no heat problems regardless of the ambient temperature? BTW: the Southwest doesn't hold the deed on high temperatures -- it gets hot in the rest of the country, just not as consistently.

 

[Jeriatric]

Nice facts, but no conclusion. How do you explain the testimony from those who report no heat problems regardless of the ambient temperature? BTW: the Southwest doesn't hold the deed on high temperatures -- it gets hot in the rest of the country, just not as consistently.

If people say they don't have a problem, then I believe them, as I hope they would believe those of us that have the problem.

One important thing to consider is how many of those folks have done heat mods. Heat mods are not put in place because a problem does not exist.

Heat mods are a personal choice. I chose not to put my warranty in jeopardy, and in my opinion based on recent posts where BRP has taken a hard line on warranty issues that involve a decision they have rendered based on modifications, it's a decision that makes sense to me. Choice.

Didn't mean to exclude anyone. Hot is hot. Just as facts are facts.

 

[Dizneyman]

Live in Central Fl

No heat mods, standard pegs, ride very often in 95 degree plus in flip fops... (iknow I know). So if boots are separating.... I am confused. Only time I feel warm toes is when stopped at a light, and the fan kicks on.. and even then, not to bad. If I put my foot where pegs would be...I feel the heat..

 

[Doodah]

If people say they don't have a problem, then I believe them, as I hope they would believe those of us that have the problem.

One important thing to consider is how many of those folks have done heat mods. Heat mods are not put in place because a problem does not exist.

Heat mods are a personal choice. I chose not to put my warranty in jeopardy, and in my opinion based on recent posts where BRP has taken a hard line on warranty issues that involve a decision they have rendered based on modifications, it's a decision that makes sense to me. Choice.

Didn't mean to exclude anyone. Hot is hot. Just as facts are facts.

I've already said in this thread that I believe you. There's too many witnesses to not believe you. That's why I'm trying to get more input to explain why I (and many others) don't have the problem, and you do. I can only figure that aerodynamically our bikes differ either due to rider position, pillion position, or perhaps windshield setting. My 2012 LT has no mods. For some reason the heat is directed away from my foot and toward yours.

 

[Jeriatric]

No heat mods, standard pegs, ride very often in 95 degree plus in flip fops... (iknow I know). So if boots are separating.... I am confused. Only time I feel warm toes is when stopped at a light, and the fan kicks on.. and even then, not to bad. If I put my foot where pegs would be...I feel the heat..

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...OT-ON-RIGHT-SIDE-HELP!!!!&p=466477#post466477

 

[Jeriatric]

I've already said in this thread that I believe you. There's too many witnesses to not believe you. That's why I'm trying to get more input to explain why I (and many others) don't have the problem, and you do. I can only figure that aerodynamically our bikes differ either due to rider position, pillion position, or perhaps windshield setting. My 2012 LT has no mods. For some reason the heat is directed away from my foot and toward yours.

I have ridden enough miles (not around home in flip flops either) that I can say without doubt the windshield position has no bearing on the lower right vent heat. Beyond that....?

Edit:
I'm admittedly not good at expressing myself in a non offensive way when writing. So, don't take anything I say personally. OK!

 

[Bob Denman]

Everybody has their own personal "level of discomfort". I know for a fact the my Diabetic Neuropathy prevents me from feeling much below my knees; maybe in this one instance, it's a good thing?? :dontknow:
Perhaps having 35 years' worth of seat-time has allowed enough perspective for me to just think that it's part of the biking experience... The heat's got to go somewhere... on ALL brands of bikes!

 

[Jeriatric]

Everybody has their own personal "level of discomfort". I know for a fact the my Diabetic Neuropathy prevents me from feeling much below my knees; maybe in this one instance, it's a good thing?? :dontknow:
Perhaps having 35 years' worth of seat-time has allowed enough perspective for me to just think that it's part of the biking experience... The heat's got to go somewhere... on ALL brands of bikes!

And when it's no longer tolerable one rider had this to say. Guess who?

"I can deal with it most of the time and in cold weather it's kind of nice
but now that we are seeing 80 plus around here it's a little too hot sometimes
so here's what I did."

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...ht-side-heat&highlight=lamonster+cookie+sheet

 

[Pikester]

I have the spyderpops shield & I just removed the drip pan on both sides and added Royal Purple's Purple Ice to the anti-freeze, so hopefully, all of this will help reduce the heat issue.

Ride safe,
Pikester

 

[SpyderBen]

Heat Deflection with the Baker Air Wings

My wife was complaining of the heat on the right side being very uncomfortable. I installed the Baker air Wings on both side and it forces the air along side the bike and seems to not allow the heat from the radiator a chance to be directed toward the rider.

They also help with the heat that is escaping around the seat. I had two installed on each side a year ago and living in Florida it has made a big difference.