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Another leaning Trike

The spyder would eat it. Seriously.. we've had this discussion many times before.

With out electrical or hydraulic assist, a leaning reverse trike takes too much energy to transition from a left or right lean to the other. With one wheel up front like many of the leaning trike like vehicles the geometry makes the physics work... Reverse the wheel pattern and physics works against you.

I'm not saying that the linked trike wouldn't be fun to ride, but I think the Spyder is much more refined and better performing with the A arms up front and a non leaning design. I'd totally love it if they made one that leans with a technical assist... but I'm not sure many of us could afford that model.


I haven't seen this arguement before Dan, I'm sure people had their reasons and their qualifiers for what they said so I don't wish to re-open it suffice to say though I believe I could produce a set of qualifiers that would favor a leaning tryke and even in a one for one changeover of leaning system against the steer system I'd like to see a/ the math and b/ the practice. It would be a very interesting exercise and outcome.

Cheers brother!
 
In discussions with my Engineer from the Roads certification body, its all a bit hard for him and he needs somebody else to do it from concept to delivery. But I may already have that in place with approval from agreement last week from an international triumvirate including Stanford University Helsinki something and Melbourne Australia's Swinburne University of technology to look a a Camber steer mobility device the quadricycle will just follow in tracks.

Could be completed in next quarter and productionised by end 2012 if it passes proof of concept and pricing points. Still a bit of finger crossing to do but universities are seeking projects to work on for real world experience for their high performing graduates.
 
By the way -

Who's keeping a foot in "Both Camps" just in case

Seems BRP recognise there is a market for a Crossover machine, similar to what I may build out of the Spyder but look nothi9ng like it starting with Spyder but definitely crossover.

brp_exit_wheelie.jpg bombardier-BRD-exit-concept.jpg Ever seen a http://www.wesllcorp.com ??
 
I don't like the way it looks, but I do like the idea of getting more of a motorcycle feel with the leaning. With all things considered, I will keep my Spyder. :D
 
Heres a much more detailed brief than I believe we have seen so far on the Bombardier product.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=sA...D0Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=leaning vehicle&f=false

Still no comment on a production bike, but goes into a bit more detail than just "protection" I think.

Ooooh.... I was about to scoff at yet another link to that single years-old patent drawing we've all seen before, but with PLENTY of drawings filed just this past January, this was genuinely new to me.

Hmmmm... :popcorn:
 
Ooooh.... I was about to scoff at yet another link to that single years-old patent drawing we've all seen before, but with PLENTY of drawings filed just this past January, this was genuinely new to me.

Hmmmm... :popcorn:

Yeah Dave I'm not sure if you went through all the Polaris Patents filed but there have been substantial amounts just recently that can only mean one thing to me, that there is an existing prototype that has been tested. Did you notice there was also a drawing for a quadcycle spyder as well?

Now with the summation of there being a leaning Yike in existence who has been to the Spyder plant lately?? Who has seen the non-production prototypes? Who may have seen the 'pre-production" prototypes? :popcorn::popcorn:

Just the volume of paperwork and the summation they couldn't do it without proving the prototype (no point patenting what doesn't work) Somebody definately knows something and just who could that be??? :doorag::doorag: :ani29:
 
Hows this look?

This is the update bike for the final production test at Pikes Peake, after that it will be looking at how to productise the platform and on what machines so that we cover the market. No Photoshopping thats the real deal.

Tremoto track work.jpg
 
There all over..!!

check out the Ducati 620 Monstrosity..to add to the collections. Still even if they got one to work well it would better fit the category of a bike with all it's same knee scraping foot crunching shoulder banging qualities. Imo roadster remain in a category of their own..!! :ohyea:
 
check out the Ducati 620 Monstrosity..to add to the collections. Still even if they got one to work well it would better fit the category of a bike with all it's same knee scraping foot crunching shoulder banging qualities. Imo roadster remain in a category of their own..!! :ohyea:

The Ducati at the moment is in pieces LOL it also needs to be rebuilt to current spec or even next spec but there will be a range of bikes across all platforms from Cruisers to at least street sports and who knows maybe even full sports bikes. It already works well we have 5 years development work in practice, 4 bikes built (including a big bore on/offroad bike) and the next will add a wheel for a Quadricycle is the current plan and meanwhile we will be looking for funding to get the factory production of the three wheeler underway. :yes::yes:
 
Piaggio mp3
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13641_3-9892882-44.html

Not sure what the problem is? If they rock a 500cc scooter I'm sure we could make the spyder work... But isn't the "flat" non leaning feel what has helped bring in many spyderlovers who may have never set foot in the motorcycle world otherwise?

I think there definitely a side of the fence for some people, there are some that would be happy to own and run both.

The reasons they cant do the current Spyder as leaning are far too many as I tried going that path myself as a starting point but going over them here would just strike up debate and I dont want that myself, I just want everyone to enjoy what technology they have for what it is. :doorag:

I dont know about licensing in the US or Canada etc but in goo dol Oz we have to do a practical exam (usually proceeded by an 8 or 4 hour course as a lead in depending on your riding ability) on 2 wheels (there may be an exemption process for the disabled but they dont have a 250 to ride which is our restriction on learner permit at least and provisional permit for some as well) so you have to be able to ride here before you take balance out of the equation somewhat to go to the Spyder. On the other hand we have the same Piaggio and Q3 etc down here so they could always use that.

Our system is mechanical its close to riding a two wheeler while having more than two wheels as you get, we do no jiggery pokery with system controls of lean, pitch and yaw.

There those that swear by two and hate Spyders, there's those who ride more than two wheels only because they have too and this system is a step towards two wheeling, and it also could scare some people if they were not comfortable with the leaning bikes and like the stability that multiple wheels currently brings with the flatter ride. Any of the 3 types worth their salt can do the speed limits with grace and poise. Its when you do the hustle you start and separate the technologies into what they are currently capable of.

I feel no doubt the leaning Spyder is coming but there are design differences between what this system is aimed at doing rather than just leaning that separate it from a leaning Spyder. So that again will be another separate layer of niche bikes. :D
 
I forgot to post I think a picture somebody did in CS5 or something of the remodeled Spyder body as I saw it on the current shape for a leaning Spyder.

MasterWM2.jpg
 
New Video of the Tremoto

Here is a tickler Video of the Tremoto on Pikes Peake until we get the full footage of the Tremoto Go_pro's, I did post it with the link to start at 11.05 so you only had to see the Tremoto if that w=your interest or watch the whole thing if thats your boggle.

 
While we're talking alternatives, here's one a little bit different. Same principle as the Segway, but cuter!

 
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While we're talking alternatives, here's one a little bit different. Same principle as the Segway, but cuter!

Ive been trying to keep in contact with these guys as a potential supplier to Australia. This video is so old now they are supposed to have a newly designed model around production engineering etc So this video is getting quite old in terms of models now, I'd really like to see some tickler film on thenew product. :)
 
Now Yamaha come at Multi wheeling

So now Yamaha are finally going to release something Multiwheel to the road.

Details are sketchy as Yamaha plays coy as usual for any manufacturer and also makes claims though of sporting pretences.

Just two angles of the bike though show it to be close as can be to the Yamaha T-max unless it is acvtually the T-max with a Dual front end they are going to release which will relegate it OUT of the sporting picture and pant it firmly in the Maxi scooter/"light" tourer at best instead. They are a 530cc parallel twin from memory.

At any rate Asphalt and Rubber say "hey if you have sporting pretensions theres the bar" and post the Tremoto video from Pikes Peake and we'll hope to slap them further this year. One thing they do say is that Yamaha will also be releasing an ultracompact 4 wheeler at the Tokyo show but I get the feeling that isnt a bike rather a car like vehicle also included in the EEC L6 quadricycle category I think one of the requirements being 500cc and 51kw max power worth having a look at http://www.aixam.com/

Anyway enough adieu and to the Yamaha jalopy!

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/yamaha-leaning-multi-wheeler-lmw/
 
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