Absolutely Amazing after Installing BajaRon sway bar!

[Piratezz]

@fredgal, I did it with a forklift, and I put a big block o wood under the gables, so it wouldn't drop on me, worked like a charm.
@MNF3, I still live to tell,

 

[BajaRon]

Just finished installing mine today. Abrupt manuvers and taking curves at higher speeds definitely feels more stable. Here are my photos of the install. Getting those plastic blocks sure was a pain in the butt though!

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I am glad you like the bar. But I am afraid this is an unsafe install. As pointed out already, the long bolt goes on the bottom. I can see no threads out the end of the lower nut. The safety nylock feature is at the outer end of the nut. You need to have at least 2 full threads beyond the end of the nut to have an effective, and safe installation. I highly recommend swapping the bolts.

 

[Snoking1127]

Grew up on a farm with lots of machinery, including loaders. I would not do it that way. There is no way to safely block the loader arms. Too much of a chance of something going wrong. I know several people that died because of hydraulic failures.

You do not need to get under the Spyder to swap the bars themselves. Get is ready to slide out. Lift it for a minute, sliding out the old one and the new one in while standing next to it. Put is back on ramps or blocks to connect up the new one.

 

[nycgordonf]

I am glad you like the bar. But I am afraid this is an unsafe install. As pointed out already, the long bolt goes on the bottom. I can see no threads out the end of the lower nut. The safety nylock feature is at the outer end of the nut. You need to have at least 2 full threads beyond the end of the nut to have an effective, and safe installation. I highly recommend swapping the bolts.

Hmm, strange. The install guide clearly specified the included bolts should be used at the top. Wish I had a copy of the install guide but I tossed it.

I torqued them all quite well.

 

[Snoking1127]

I am glad you like the bar. But I am afraid this is an unsafe install. As pointed out already, the long bolt goes on the bottom. I can see no threads out the end of the lower nut. The safety nylock feature is at the outer end of the nut. You need to have at least 2 full threads beyond the end of the nut to have an effective, and safe installation. I highly recommend swapping the bolts.

Not only that, the lower bolt is suppose to the other direction so the non thread part is in the sway bar. Less chance of movement in the sway bar end that way!

Step 12. Using the LONGER 13mm Bolts supplied (Threads to the OUTSIDE), reattach the Lower Heim Joint Link to
one Sway Bar Arm and Tighten (#3) Diagram #2. VERY IMPORTANT! The Sway Bar Arm mounts to the
INSIDE of the Heim Joint Link. Repeat this process for the other side. If you have NOT installed the BajaRon
Billet Aluminum Heim Joint Links, Check the UPPER Link Bolts for tightness. Some have found them loose.

 

[BajaRon]

Hmm, strange. The install guide clearly specified the included bolts should be used at the top. Wish I had a copy of the install guide but I tossed it.

I torqued them all quite well.

I am glad to hear that you torqued the bolts correctly. However, without threads into and beyond the Nylock portion of the nut. Even correctly torqued, this connection could back out. Neither of us wants that. The reason I supply the longer bolt in this bar kit is precisely because the original bolt is too short to make a secure connection with the new, thicker sway bar.

Again, I highly recommend swapping these bolts. I am not saying it WILL come apart. But doing this will insure that everything stays put as designed. The manufacturer, and myself, use Nylock nuts for a reason. But they are not magic. For them to work as designed, they must have at least 2 threads beyond the Nylock portion of the nut.

As for the bar kit instructions. I can send you another set if you like. In any case, these are the installation steps in question. I am posting this in the interests of safety only. Not to embarrass or call anyone out. When installed correctly, I firmly believe this bar kit improves the overall safety of the machine. It sounds like you went to great lengths to do this install correctly. It just needs a bit of tweaking.

I have highlighted the pertinent portions in red here. They are not red on the instruction sheet. If there is anything else I can do, please let me know.

6. Replacing the OEM Plastic End Links – See Picture on Page 4 - Upper Connection Point Only!
Install the New BajaRon End Links Using the original Nut & Bolt. You will secure the top connection only at this time.

13. Installing the BajaRon Heim Joint Links. - Sway Bar Connection Point Only!
As with the upper End Link Connection, place one 8mm Stainless Steel spacer (supplied) on each side of each End Link bearing. Because this is an open connection, you will not find it necessary to use Super Glue for this step.
You will be Using the LONGER 13mm Bolt & NyLock Nut (supplied). Attach the Lower Heim Joint Link to the Sway Bar Arm (Threads to the INSIDE) and Tighten

 

[AZCanAm]

I am really hoping they work out. I may be hoping too hard. We'll see...

So far so good with the Kanine rear tire. Definitely feels more stable at highway speeds (satisfied). So much so, I am kinda regretting ordering the stage 2 Elka's to replace the rear coil-over.

The Kanine is a nice improvement over the stock OEM's but pretty much anything is.
The next review will be after I install the stage 2 Elka rear shock.

 

[fredgal]

Grew up on a farm with lots of machinery, including loaders. I would not do it that way. There is no way to safely block the loader arms. Too much of a chance of something going wrong. I know several people that died because of hydraulic failures.

i will lift it with straps to my bucket, then support the bucket with a couple 4x4's so it cant drop.. when the time comes..

 

[fredgal]

is there a link to a PDF file for install for the F3-limited.somewhere,, unable to locate one.. tks.

 

[fatboy]

i used fork lift push forks to cradle tire works great

 

[Peter Aawen]

is there a link to a PDF file for install for the F3-limited.somewhere,, unable to locate one.. tks.

PM, email, or call BajaRon, he'll see you get the right info! :thumbup:

His contact details can be found by clicking on the BAJARON logo in the list of Sponsors found on the Home Page, but I understand he's more likely to receive & respond to email queries quickly rather than via any social media links. :thumbup:

 

[fredgal]

i found the sway bar with free shipping, but it doesnt look like the one is this discussion, are there two versions , see Pic.. thanks..

https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-1nu...s/460/5194/IMG_2865__96017.1533180230.jpg?c=2

 

[Piratezz]

Fred, the picture you are reffering to, is with the old Balljoints, Bajaron has re-engineered them, to be much better, maybe that why they drop the shipping, IMHO

 

[BajaRon]

i found the sway bar with free shipping, but it doesnt look like the one is this discussion, are there two versions , see Pic.. thanks..

https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-1nu...s/460/5194/IMG_2865__96017.1533180230.jpg?c=2

That appears to be an F3 bar, but it is hard to be sure from the camera angle. Be sure it is an F3 bar. You do not want to put an RT bar on your F3. They are too strong. Sway bars are what I call a 'Goldie Locks' component. You don't want them too week or too strong. Piratezz is correct. The links provided in that kit were discontinued a few years ago for the current and much improved version. Still, those should last you for several years if you are not riding in a salt environment.

 

[fredgal]

thanks all.. i think this is what i want, and it has free shipping also.. is this a vendor here ? thanks.. our roads are terrible here where i live..

https://spyderpops.com/can-am-spyde...luminum-end-links-fits-2015-up-f3-all-models/

 

[Peter Aawen]

PM, email, or call BajaRon, he'll see you get the right info! :thumbup:

His contact details can be found by clicking on the BAJARON logo in the list of Sponsors found on the Home Page, but I understand he's more likely to receive & respond to email queries quickly rather than via any social media links.:thumbup:

thanks all.. i think this is what i want, and it has free shipping also.. is this a vendor here ? thanks.. our roads are terrible here where i live..

https://spyderpops.com/can-am-spyde...luminum-end-links-fits-2015-up-f3-all-models/

I don't understand why you seem to be trying to make this so much harder than it needs to be fredgal? :banghead: Have you contacted BajaRon direct yet?? :dontknow:

As I mentioned in my earlier post (see above) BajaRon IS a vendor here, and I reckon it's usually worth your while to go direct to the source for things like this, avoiding any miss-communication in identifying EXACTLY what you need &/or 'middle-man fees & charges'.

Besides, he's a modest guy, and often won't directly tell people here if he can supply his product quicker, easier, &/or at a better price than any you might find elsewhere on the interwebs; but I suspect that even if Ron DOES sell things directly or indirectly thru Amazon or eBay, or via that link, there'll be some fees & charges involved in doing so which that price will have to include/cater for. :lecturef_smilie:

So I'd strongly recommend that you contact him direct, as suggested earlier. It's worth a shot, isn't it?? hyea:

Go On, Do It!! You Know You Should! :thumbup:

 

[fredgal]

I don't understand why you seem to be trying to make this so much harder than it needs to be fredgal? :banghead: Have you contacted BajaRon direct yet?? :dontknow:

As I mentioned in my earlier post (see above) BajaRon IS a vendor here, and I reckon it's usually worth your while to go direct to the source for things like this, avoiding any miss-communication in identifying EXACTLY what you need &/or 'middle-man fees & charges'.

Besides, he's a modest guy, and often won't directly tell people here if he can supply his product quicker, easier, &/or at a better price than any you might find elsewhere on the interwebs; but I suspect that even if Ron DOES sell things directly or indirectly thru Amazon or eBay, or via that link, there'll be some fees & charges involved in doing so which that price will have to include/cater for. :lecturef_smilie:

So I'd strongly recommend that you contact him direct, as suggested earlier. It's worth a shot, isn't it?? hyea:

Go On, Do It!! You Know You Should! :thumbup:

i have contacted him.......and i will be buying a swaybar.........and a F4-windshield this week.........

 

[old Timer]

:2thumbs:

 

[fredgal]

talked to Ron, nice guy,, swaybar on its way,,yay...

 

[AZCanAm]

talked to Ron, nice guy,, swaybar on its way,,yay...

You will be happier for sure. One of the top 3 upgrades! Safety is #1, and this bar makes the bike safer and more fun. Money very well spent.