2018 Dash Software Update

[Flamewinger]

Depends on the technology the bike comes with. Currently neither the Spyder not the Goldwing will allow the headset to pair to both the phone and bike system.

 

[Spyder_Cowgirl]

Interesting Discussion -- Seems BRP Missed Something

Bear in mind, I do not have a 2018 and have only looked at the new dash once a few weeks ago …. so, this may not make much sense.

Hubby has a 2016 Indian Roadmaster that has built in BT and this is what was done in their setup:

• The BT environment has TWO items that can be set -- a DRIVER device and a HEADSET
• The phone pairs to the DRIVER device
• The Sena, or other BT device, pairs to the HEADSET (in my husbands case, we paired a J & M CB via their BT module interface).

Now back to the new dash on the Spyder:

• I seem to recall there were also two locations where pairing was mentioned
• One said PHONE
• The other said HEADSET

So, you would pair the phone to the bike (to BRP connect) and then pair the headset using the dash interface as a headset.

Is my memory wrong? Did I just imagine it because I am so used to the Indian setup.

Feel free to correct … all the best …. Ann

 

[pauly1]

Update on BRP Connect, Android Phone, and Sena 30K

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[FONT=&quot]Here are the pieces which I connected together:[/FONT]
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• BRP Connect(tm)
• BRP Gauge Cluster
• Samsung Galaxy Note 8 smart phone
• Sena 30K headset
• Google(tm) Maps (via cell phone data plan)
• Genius Maps (stand-alone GPS)
• Google(tm) Play Music (playing locally stored music)

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• AccuWeather(tm), although allegedly compatible, hung up without ever opening. It was dropped due to it being a low priority for us.

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[FONT=&quot]This set up should result in:[/FONT]

• Cell Phone connection to the headset to make and take phone calls
• Music audio from the phone to the headset
• GPS access from the phone via the BRP Gauge Cluster
• Taking pictures with the cell phone while attached to the BRP Gauge Cluster and then resuming BRP Connect (2 touches on the cell phone screen, all while the bike was turned on and the music was playing().

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[FONT=&quot]Known deficiencies are:[/FONT]

• FM radio and Auxiliary sound plays only though the Spyder speakers - limitation by the BRP Gauge Cluster
• Potential issue with non-display of the cursor when first trying to use BRP Connect on the BRP Gauge Cluster; see below for hack solution
• Some Genius Maps settings are not remembered after disconnecting from the system
• Cell phone sound level will be reduced after a power-down disconnect

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1. Setting up the cell phone - a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 running Android 8.0.0
   1. Download and install the ‘Sena 30K’ app from the Google Play Store
   2. Download and install ‘BRP Connect’ from the Google Play Store
   3. Download and install Genius Maps (North American Trial version)
   4. Nice to do: created page on phone apps to co-locate all of the app links for ease of use
   5. Open Genius Map app and go through set up
      1. Allow Location
      2. Download Maps - they are large files so best to do from Wi-Fi connection
      3. Voice - download you choice of two voices
      4. Route Settings
         1. Turn “Off” ‘Departure’ and ‘Live Traffic’
         2. Selected ‘Unpaved Roads’ in Avoidance
      5. (For reference, the Vehicle Connectivity is “North America Trial”)
      6. Live Traffic set to “Off”
      7. Distance/Time I changed to “Miles” and turned off the 24-hour clock format
      8. Select download to SD Card
   6. Open Google Music Play and set up play locally stored music
   7. Open BRP Connect app (without connected to Spyder)
      1. Associate ‘Music’ function to ‘Google Play Music’ by touching on Music
      2. Touch on Genius Maps to ensure that app opens

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1. First-time Pairing of Cell Phone to BRP Gauge Cluster
   1. Note: DO NOT yet plug into the Spyder connections yet!!
   2. BRP Gauge Cluster
      1. Home (push center of Joy Stick (JS))
      2. Settings (up/down on JS to get to Settings, then push right on JS
      3. Bluetooth
      4. Add Phone
   3. Phone
      1. Settings —> Connections —> Bluetooth
         1. Touch the ‘Scan’ button if phone is not searching for BT devices
      2. Touch ‘BRP Connect'
      3. Verify Security Code matches on BRP Gauge Cluster and the phone, touch “OK”
   4. BRP Gauge Cluster
      1. Push JS right to select the Green Check mark
      2. Allow access from BRP to the cell phone data

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1. Turn on System
   1. Unlock Phone
   2. Start the ‘BRP Connect’ app on the phone
   3. Plug the BRP Audio and USB cords into your cell phone
      1. You will need to provide Audio and USB extension cords, essential for taking pictures
   4. Turn on the Spyder’s ignition switch
   5. Note: it will take 20 - 30 seconds for the bluetooth devices to connect
   6. While the system is connecting, increase the sound level on your phone to “Max” - you may need to override a safety warning about loud music and hearing damage
   7. Note: I had issues with the cursor on the BRP Gauge Cluster not showing until I cycled Out/In using the Home Button (tap twice) while the phone is plugged into the BRP Gauge Cluster

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1. BRP Connect App, Cell Phone, and Sena 30K Headset
   1. Sena 30K Headset (Sec # refer to the Sena 30K Manual)
      1. Perform factory Reset on the headset (Sec 14.2)
      2. Delete pairing of headset to phone, if there is one, in Phone Bluetooth Settings
      3. Use the Sena 30K app on phone to complete pairing of Headset to Phone (Sec 4.1)
         1. Touch the Sena 30K headset and turn “Phone” and “Media” audio to “Off”
            1. This step is not documented in any technical manual
         2. Result is to allow the phone to control the Sena 30K but not take calls between the headset and phone; that will come through BRP Connect
      4. Pair Sena 30K headset to the BRP Dash Cluster (Sec 4.2, Second Phone)
         1. This will provide your cell phone connection via a headset: a HEADSET MUST must be connected for cell phone usage!

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1. To take a picture via the cell phone camera while connected to the BRP Gauge Cluster
   1. Note: you’ll need long enough Audio and USB extension cables, and this only really is viable on the F3 models as the cable connections are in the dash
   2. Pick up the cell phone, leave cords attached
   3. Push the “Home” button on the phone’s Navigation Bar
   4. Turn on your Camera and take pictures
   5. Push the “Home” button once and select ‘BRP Connect’ app - the phone will immediately connect back to the BRP Gauge Cluster
   6. Alternatively, tap the “Recent” button and find the BRP Connect app and touch it.

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1. BRP Connect Navigation buttons - not all-inclusive listing, just ones I stumbled onto
   1. Joy Stick (JS) left and hold for 2 sec - can be use to back up and close out of apps
      1. Worked in Google Play Music, Google Maps, and Genius Maps
   2. Use BRP Connect button to toggle in/out of BRP Connect Apps
   3. Push JS Center - sometimes used to make selection if right/left or up/down don’t work

 

[stmike 1800]

There is no way i will every get the blue tooth system to work ,just to old and cranky i guess . Why the h@ll can they not have a cord for us old farts and the blue tooth for those that want it ?

 

[billybovine]

BRP Connect, Android Cell Phone, and the Send 30K

1. 2. Plug the BRP Audio and USB cords into your cell phone
      1. You will need to provide Audio and USB extension cords, essential for taking pictures

Why are you plugging in the audio cord to your phone? There should be no need to do that. Mine does not anyway.

 

[pauly1]

Why are you plugging in the audio cord to your phone? There should be no need to do that. Mine does not anyway.

What phone are you using?

Wayne

 

[billybovine]

What phone are you using?

Wayne

BB Dtek 60 Android 6

 

[billybovine]

You don't have to plug in the usb either if you just want to listen to music. Just need to start the Google play music app from the phone. From then on you can control the phone playback from the dashboard.

 

[billybovine]

My experience

I have the Sena SMH10 headset. Cleared all the previous pairings. BT paired it to my Spyder dashboard. It has worked flawlessly ever since. The Sena will reconnect whenever both the dash and Sena are turned on. No matter what the order or time delays are.

I BT paired my phone to the dash. It was not easy because it took me a while to figure out that because my phone was already paired and connected with my house phone. That was a problem. My phone shows both devices are connected but the dash is telling me it is not. So when I am at home I have to manually disconnect the house phone before it will functionally connect with my dash. Not that big a deal just an extra step. Away from home that is not an issue. It does also seems the the order may be important. If you don't allow the phone BT connect before plugging the usb cable in. The BRP Connect app does not launch or if does launch it is not functional sometimes.

 

[pauly1]

Billy is correct in that the Audio Cable is not needed to play music from the phone. The Sena 30K is far different than any of the other Sena headsets judging by the churn over on the Sena User Forum.

One other change is that the phone must be paired as either Phone or Media (or both) to the Sena 30K in order to use the Sena 30K app for remote control of the headset. Some people stated they set up their headset and home and don't care about the app; I do want the app to function as we've experienced instability in the Sena 30K that caused for 'field adjustments'.

And Billy: it's a whole lot simpler to pair the Sena 30K directly to the phone and play music and use the phone function. If you want to use the promised features of the BRP Gauge Cluster, then both the USB cable and BT must be connected.

I'm working on an updated instruction set.

Wayne