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2017 F3 (SE) Nanny OFF performance?

:shocked: Wait a minute!
Didn't BRP de-tune the base F3 model, and put the RT's taller gearing in it? :dontknow:

Yes: they did! They tuned it for 105 horsepower (not 115), and it's got the smaller rear sprocket!
That is what has made the difference!
 
Disabled traction control last evening for the first time. Not a big/any? difference! Still no significant rear tire slip under full acceleration, even from stop on a turn out of parking lot onto highway, hammering throttle in 1'st. Wondering if it could be the Corbin back pack on the rear seat? Not much in it/very light. But maybe it's enough to activate the switch under the passenger seat that inhibits power? (new safety switch on 2017 F3-S models) ~ Any weight on rear seat and power is inhibited & traction control cannot be disabled. Just surprised because very little weight, but maybe.... (I can compensate and test this with a simple/temp. mod.)

Not much slip no matter what I try. FWIW: I occasionally see the T/C warning (yellow flash) on dash during "spirited" acceleration. But if it wasn't there flashing I'd never know from feel! Based upon almost 1000 miles riding, the thought of really "lighting up" the rear tire is almost comical. ~ Not that I want to burn rubber, but "where's the beef?" (Gotta be my age to appreciate that pun.)
 
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TRLBLZR1 said:
Disabled traction control last evening for the first time. Not a big/any? difference! Still no significant rear tire slip under full acceleration, even from stop on a turn out of parking lot onto highway, hammering throttle in 1'st. Wondering if it could be the Corbin back pack on the rear seat? Not much in it/very light. But maybe it's enough to activate the switch under the passenger seat that inhibits power? (new safety switch on 2017 F3-S models) ~ Any weight on rear seat and power is inhibited & traction control cannot be disabled. Just surprised because very little weight, but maybe.... (I can compensate and test this with a simple/temp. mod.)

Not much slip no matter what I try. FWIW: I occasionally see the T/C warning (yellow flash) on dash during "spirited" acceleration. But if it wasn't there flashing I'd never know from feel! Based upon almost 1000 miles riding, the thought of really "lighting up" the rear tire is almost comical. ~ Not that I want to burn rubber, but "where's the beef?" (Gotta be my age to appreciate that pun.)
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My machine (Daytona 500 F3-S SE) is supposed to have 115 hp. The BRP videos show it "smoking" tires on the track during counter-steering maneuvers. Really? LOL!
(If I really tried/wanted to, I think I could make more noise with the tires using the brakes than the throttle lol/col.)
 
Firefly said:
Something just doesn't seem right here.... an F3 SE model should for sure be able to break the rear tire loose from a dead stop.
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Nope, not the 2017 Daytona F3-S SE model..... Not mine at least. That's the disappointing thing. Want a little more "down low" power. Not so interested in high speed. Don't get me wrong, it's still a blast to ride. Just a little "sleepy" out of the gate. I think something isn't quite right based on everything I've seen, heard and read. (both elsewhere and on this forum) ~ Will know for certain after I temporarily disable the passenger seat weight/safety switch. (Or remove the Corbin pack on passenger seat.)
 
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Nope, not the 2017 Daytona F3-S SE model..... Not mine at least. That's the disappointing thing. Want a little more "down low" power. Not so interested in high speed. Don't get me wrong, it's still a blast to ride. Just a little "sleepy" out of the gate. I think something isn't quite right based on everything I've seen, heard and read. (both elsewhere and on this forum) ~ Will know for certain after I temporarily disable the passenger seat weight/safety switch. (Or remove the Corbin pack on passenger seat.)
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Mine won't spin the rear tire either. I'll be doing one of the computer upgrades once we get a few real reviews.
 
TRLBLZR1 said:
With nanny mode engaged, I cannot spin tire on F3-S SE (Daytona 500) regardless of how much throttle I give it off the line. (Straight line or otherwise.) ~ Are you implying spinning requires disengagement of nanny?
(And not that I want to smoke a tire or anything. Just looking for more acceleration and as it stands now, tires never slip noticeably, not even a chirp lol.)
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I've noticed that if I'm on blacktop I can spin the rear tire with ease. If I'm on sold clean concrete I don't spin either. I've never checked the concrete spot--I usually judge the spinning via the tire squealing sound. Maybe it spun a little but I didn't hear or feel it. 2015 F3's.
Darrell
Check the air pressure in the rear tire--if it's low--traction will occur.
 
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2016 F3S SE. already put a new rear tire on mine @ 4300 miles since I keep grinnin an spinnin!!! I've managed to figure out how to spin the tire on 120*degree curves doin better than 15mph or more over the limit for the curves....GRINNIN AN SPINNIN :yikes: I can do some serious (S) curve hole shots too if I hit the gas at the appropriate times. These sumbeetchez are sure fun as hell if ya know how to handle em :yes:
 
sprdmx said:
Mine won't spin the rear tire either. I'll be doing one of the computer upgrades once we get a few real reviews.
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Good to know I"m not the only one. On that note:
Anyone have a quick-fix solution to disable the passenger seat sensor?

I have a Corbin seat pack on the back. Not much weight, but it's securely attached and pushing down/tight against second/rear seat. (I think there may be enough downward pressure so that it's triggering the safety over-ride.) Also wondering what effect unplugging the sensor would have on system.

~I may start another thread about this for better visibility.
 
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Good to know I"m not the only one. On that note:
Anyone have a quick-fix solution to disable the passenger seat sensor?

I have a Corbin seat pack on the back. Not much weight, but it's securely attached and pushing down/tight against second/rear seat. (I think there may be enough downward pressure so that it's triggering the safety over-ride.) Also wondering what effect unplugging the sensor would have on system.

~I may start another thread about this for better visibility.
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YES... that pack on the rear seat can make all the difference in the world. You can simply unplug the seat switch to disable it.
 
Firefly said:
YES... that pack on the rear seat can make all the difference in the world. You can simply unplug the seat switch to disable it.
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Thank you!.... Will be trying that later this week. (Was concerned whether disconnecting could produce adverse consequences like error codes etc.)

I have to get a photo of the pack on this bike. It's a FANTASTIC setup that looks like it was designed for this machine. OEM should be branding and selling this pack. It's that good!

OOPS: Not Corbin, its a CorTech: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B009RIG4UQ
I don't use the underneath pad, and also modified how I use the straps to connect pack. Have to get some photos up here for others. Quick connects/detaches like it was made for this machine.

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Why not just try it out by taking the seat pack off before trying to disable the switch? :dontknow:

I reckon I recall someone having 'limp home' issues or at least warnings & codes from leaving the passenger seat unplugged, & don't those bobber kits have a special attachment to use in order to bypass that switch? :lecturef_smilie:

So surely it's gonna be a whole lot easier & quicker (& cheaper too?!?) just to take the seat pack off & make sure that IS your issue before you spend any time or effort (or $$) on trying to bypass something that may not even be involved?!? :gaah:
 
Peter Aawen said:
Why not just try it out by taking the seat pack off before trying to disable the switch? :dontknow:

I reckon I recall someone having 'limp home' issues or at least warnings & codes from leaving the passenger seat unplugged, & don't those bobber kits have a special attachment to use in order to bypass that switch? :lecturef_smilie:

So surely it's gonna be a whole lot easier & quicker (& cheaper too?!?) just to take the seat pack off & make sure that IS your issue before you spend any time or effort (or $$) on trying to bypass something that may not even be involved?!? :gaah:
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Good point. ~ Never thought to look at the bobber kit schematics. I do know that with the Cortech securely attached, the seat sits flush. It does not sit flush otherwise.
 
Haven't pulled the seat (pack) yet to see if pack has enough downward pressure to effect passenger seat safety switch. Been busy @ work, however just an update on F3-S SE performance:
Seems to be temps that have a huge effect on this machine in stock form. Surprised at how much difference there is on a 75 degree dry day vs. a 85+ degree humid day. Night and day difference! (Tire gets a bit loose and machine is a completely different animal in cooler dryer air. ~ Knew this would be the case, just didn't expect such a dramatic difference @ low rpm's when accelerating from a stop!
 
The switch does only activate at a certain weight. My Oxford bag doesn't activate it and that has a fair bit of weight in at times. The shop manual doesn't specify a weight and the only way to tell would be with BUDS connected as it will show in the software.

If it is activating why not just put a fairly strong empty tin can (tuna maybe) over it and then fit the seat? unless the weight on the seat can deform the can the switch won't get depressed. Also a good way to see if your pack is putting sufficient weight on the seat to cause it to activate. May need some adaption of the tin!!

My gut instinct is it's not being activated by your pack.
 
monkeyboymorton said:
The switch does only activate at a certain weight. My Oxford bag doesn't activate it and that has a fair bit of weight in at times. The shop manual doesn't specify a weight and the only way to tell would be with BUDS connected as it will show in the software.

If it is activating why not just put a fairly strong empty tin can (tuna maybe) over it and then fit the seat? unless the weight on the seat can deform the can the switch won't get depressed. Also a good way to see if your pack is putting sufficient weight on the seat to cause it to activate. May need some adaption of the tin!!

My gut instinct is it's not being activated by your pack.
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You can pop the rear seat off and unplug the sensor in 30 seconds... that's all that is needed to disable it.
 
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