2013 rt problem tread

[Bob Ledford]

I have seen a pic of the exhaust with Jet Hot ceramic coating that is probably the best way to fixed the exhaust heat related problems. All we got was some tinfoil:yikes:

Magdave

While I did not need to really do it I did it anyway on my dime (I only wish it was a dime job) I took my 2011 in and the tech pulled the pipes off and wrapped them in one inch wide exhaust header heat cloth tape. Not only did it knock off some of the it took all of the exhaust pinging noise away. Almost as quiet now as a Gold Wing or a BMW and a joy to ride.

The "13's" have sure been a PIA for everyone involved. Not a good year for anyone, buyer, seller, or manufacturer.

 

[ecuaron]

OK no complaining just a list of issues on a 2013 RT Limited purchased August 2013

1. After the first day of riding approximately 100 miles. Developed oil leak. Oil leak was from the shifter rod seals. Apparently put on backward at the factory.
Fix was to to R & R the seals. Days in the shop 3. No cost to owner Warranty According to dealer approximately $1500 bill to BRP

2. Two weeks after purchase recalled for heat issue. Parts ordered. Warranty 1 day in shop.

3. 5 weeks in to Spyder decided I wanted to have a third key. Tech says no problem will do at the 600 mile service (actually 900 Miles). Ordered Key about $70 (way too much) had key cut
Took spyder in to service. Oil and inspection done in couple of hours. Tech says ok 5 minutes to program key. 2 hours later nothing nada. All keys deprogrammed!!!! 3 hours later calls to BRP
Yup common problem in 2013 bad control module. BRP will ship overnight. Luckily tech was able to program 1 key. BRP shiped control module 3 days later. Back in shop 2 hours now have 3 keys.
So you wont know if the control module is bad unless you decide to get a spare key.

4. 2 months of driving 2,300 miles runs great. Minor heat issue. Tolerable. Wish I got better fuel mileage.

5. Working deal with dealer on 2014 RT Limited. Not too promising. Not too worry. Gonna drive the wheels off of it.

Ernie

 

[OWISE1]

i was writing to steve m from brp through e mails, once i said i would sue if i got a burn he no longer want to talk in e mails only on the phone, so no written records. he called my dealer first than he called me and said that he ordered a battery of tests to be done on my bike. i went and bought a cheap heat detector and took a ride, when i came to a stop in 66 degree weather i took readings at all the hot points and took pictures of each reading as i took them. i sent the pictures to him and he said it is way too hot. so we just have to keep it up until they fix it, but between you and me i don't see a fix it is a design flaw on their part. when people say they don't have a heat problem i just don't understand how. so the bike goes in tomorrow morning and we will see what happens.

I didn't tell Steve any more than the problems I have been having. I did email my tech and asked if he could get me all the reports on my Spyder and he agreed to do that. I have 30 months in WA ST to file a Lemon Law Complaint if BRP doesn't come up with a fix and soon. I am waiting for a return call from BRP, so they have a week before I start calling again.
All I want is a fix or BRP to buy it back......then go on from there.:dontknow:

 

[Magdave]

I didn't tell Steve any more than the problems I have been having. I did email my tech and asked if he could get me all the reports on my Spyder and he agreed to do that. I have 30 months in WA ST to file a Lemon Law Complaint if BRP doesn't come up with a fix and soon. I am waiting for a return call from BRP, so they have a week before I start calling again.
All I want is a fix or BRP to buy it back......then go on from there.:dontknow:

One thing I want is a techline when calling BRP I called and wanted to know what the correct tension for the 2013 belt was and was told they did not know I had to go to the dealer and ask them. Problem is 2 different dealers gave me 3 different (480n,800n& the correct according to the service manual 1050n) but they will not answer a simple tech question like that.:banghead:

 

[cuznjohn]

brp

dave when you go to a car dealer most service writers were once mechanics but when you call brp most of them are people that look things up on a computer for a answer, so i would think dealers would be the best bet for tech questions or contact lamont, he is busy but he does get back to you and he went to the tech school for brp

 

[mindman]

I didn't tell Steve any more than the problems I have been having. I did email my tech and asked if he could get me all the reports on my Spyder and he agreed to do that. I have 30 months in WA ST to file a Lemon Law Complaint if BRP doesn't come up with a fix and soon. I am waiting for a return call from BRP, so they have a week before I start calling again.
All I want is a fix or BRP to buy it back......then go on from there.:dontknow:

I really like the idea of using State Lemon Laws as a final recourse for these problems. After reading the posts on the 2013 issues, it's apparent that most of the people with problems are working very hard to give BRP every opportunity to fix them. At some point though, one has to admit defeat and work towards hitting the "reset" button by invoking the Lemon Law. Perhaps if BRP had to buy back a bunch of these their sense of urgency regarding fixes would "improve".

 

[cuznjohn]

brp

I really like the idea of using State Lemon Laws as a final recourse for these problems. After reading the posts on the 2013 issues, it's apparent that most of the people with problems are working very hard to give BRP every opportunity to fix them. At some point though, one has to admit defeat and work towards hitting the "reset" button by invoking the Lemon Law. Perhaps if BRP had to buy back a bunch of these their sense of urgency regarding fixes would "improve".

i really think brp wants to fix the problem, but the main problem is there is no fix for it. why would one bike run good and another be bad. granted there are extremes where some bikes burnt but not all are catching fire. i really don't think they want the bad press. my bike is going in today for a complete work up that brp requested, so time will tell what they come up with. i have foot problems so my feet are very sensitive to the heat where as someone else might not feel the heat as much. the lemon law is the way to go because not only do you get the full price back but you also get the taxes but it is a long involved thing. i know because i went trough it twice, one with a 88 ford bronco with bad rear main seals and the other with a 90 jeep grand wagoneer with really bad water leaks. so it is not easy to do. i am trying everything to try and make my bike right but if i could trade it in i would. i told one dealer i would take 18,500 for mine a 10k loss and they don't want it. at first i loved the bike, now i just like it and i really don't ride it as much as i should due to the heat. so i just hope they can fix it this week.

 

[Bob Denman]

JOhn,
YOur bike goes "under the knife" starting today :shocked:; let's see what happens with it next... :thumbup:
Good luck!! :2thumbs:

 

[jcthorne]

Had 3000 miles on my lava brown 2013 rt limited.
No Problems!!! I just had to have that new bad boy 3 cylinder!! I'M EXCITED!

Nothing wrong with wanting the improved performance. For me the RT is a cruiser and a fun ride. For performance I have my GT that most sport bikes cannot touch. I plan to work through the problems, I for one think they are solvable with or without BRP.

 

[cuznjohn]

depending

depending on what they find with my bike today when it goes in, i might just give them the bike on consignment to sell for me being they don't want it on a trade in. i have been giving this a lot of thought and i am really not happy. i would never sell the bike to someone because i don't want any complaints if something goes wrong, so it might be better off to let a dealer handle it.

 

[SteveMac]

depending on what they find with my bike today when it goes in, i might just give them the bike on consignment to sell for me being they don't want it on a trade in. i have been giving this a lot of thought and i am really not happy. i would never sell the bike to someone because i don't want any complaints if something goes wrong, so it might be better off to let a dealer handle it.

It is pretty obvious that this really has weighed heavily on you. Best of luck in whatever the next few days bring. :doorag:

 

[spyder3]

john, wait until the 2014's hit the showroom floor, and visit another dealer. My concern would be, if your feet are that sensitive to the heat, maybe the spyder is not the way to go unless the 2014 RT gives off no heat. We wont know that until a bunch of people log some miles on them. I feel your pain on what to do....its just sucks.

 

[spydaman60]

depending on what they find with my bike today when it goes in, i might just give them the bike on consignment to sell for me being they don't want it on a trade in. i have been giving this a lot of thought and i am really not happy. i would never sell the bike to someone because i don't want any complaints if something goes wrong, so it might be better off to let a dealer handle it.

hang in there john and see what the fix is. who knows, maybe, just maybe they'll get their act together and make it right for you. either by fixing yours (hopefully more than a bandaid) or by making an offer to those of you with major problems, on a new an improved 2014. class action suits are nothing they (brp) will want to get involved in, and i'm sure there is enough animosity revving up to get one going!! good luck bro!!! keep us posted.

 

[soepy]

handling

=RBS66;705932]John
I also have some issues with my 2013 RT purchased on August 23. When I first received the bike the highbeam would not stay on my air ride suspension had a leak and then 10 days later I got a recall letter. I was also experiencing gas fumes when parked in my garage and excessive heat coming from my glovebox area. To the point where the foam is separating from the liner inside the glove box. The backbone of the bike under the seat after a one hour ride is extremely hot to the touch. I am also having some handling issues side side sway and the bike seems to be hunting and riding rough even at 5000 RPMs. Not a comfortable ride like others have stated on spyderlovers.
So I took it into my dealer at my 600 mile service, They replaced the left-hand module for the highbeam, Did the recall, And thought they fixed the air ride suspension. They did not smell the gas fumes and also said that these bikes run hot and that is normal. Well the air ride suspension needed to be replaced and they had my bike for six days, Now that is corrected. While at the dealer they smell the gas fumes and replaced my evaporation canister, Still have some fumes but not as bad as before. At that point I also asked him to take my bike for a test ride to see how they thought it handled since I've never ridden any other but the one I test drove at the dealership. When I got there on Saturday to pick up my bike service manager said he didn't have a chance to test ride he just pulled it around from the back so I could test ride it myself and see what I thought. I left the dealer and lost faith in them for not test riding my bike when I told them I was having handling issues. I also have gas spots from drippings on my driveway (i'm just going to ignore that).
Now now I have an appointment at Blackmans in Emmaus PA. This Friday. To have a laser alignment and a Bajala Ron swaybar installed(my dealer does not have a laser alignment system). RIGHT NOW I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING THROUGH A TRIAL AND ERROR Period. Which I feel I shouldn't have to be doing after spending a large amount of money on a brand-new bike. I've had other issues with other brand-new vehicles that I've owned but the dealer always seem to be able to correct those issues. THIS SEEMS LIKE A CRAPSHOOT AND A LOT OF GUESSING.
IT IS VERY SAD that people here are annoyed by people talking about their issues especially on a site that is dedicated to just SPYDERS. I feel that people should be able to take the good with the bad.
I know this is a long post but this is the truth and this is what is happening in my situation I can't speak for all other situations but this is mine if I can't talk about it on this site then maybe I will just stop coming here.

THANK YOU ROB[/QUOTE]

 

[soepy]

I had bad handling problems with my 2011. Had alignment done and increased front tire pressure to 20 lbs. Solved problem. Have had no problems with my 2013.

 

[cuznjohn]

dropped bike off

i got there and it was early so the service manager was sitting in his car, i asked him to look at the temp. gauge and he said that's not that hot, and i said it's 57 degrees out. so he told me they are trying a new anti freeze in the bikes now, so i also told him about the lil oil leak i found, and the cruise was not working. so than i go in to sign in and i hear the salesman talking on the phone with someone looking for a spyder, i said sell him mine for 19k. the guy said he would of taken it if it was black but he didn't want yellow. so i was waiting for my friend to pick me up and i decided right there and than, i said i don't want the bike back, put it on the floor on consignment and get me 19k for it. so that was my decision if they were only going to change anti freeze so now i have no bike.

 

[ARtraveler]

i got there and it was early so the service manager was sitting in his car, i asked him to look at the temp. gauge and he said that's not that hot, and i said it's 57 degrees out. so he told me they are trying a new anti freeze in the bikes now, so i also told him about the lil oil leak i found, and the cruise was not working. so than i go in to sign in and i hear the salesman talking on the phone with someone looking for a spyder, i said sell him mine for 19k. the guy said he would of taken it if it was black but he didn't want yellow. so i was waiting for my friend to pick me up and i decided right there and than, i said i don't want the bike back, put it on the floor on consignment and get me 19k for it. so that was my decision if they were only going to change anti freeze so now i have no bike.

That was a fast decision. Not much more I can add. :bbq::bbq:

 

[cuznjohn]

not really

That was a fast decision. Not much more I can add. :bbq::bbq:

i have been thinking about it and being the cooler weather is coming and i am hurting, feet and left leg i decided to try to see if i could off the bike. and i know i would only get madder if all they did was change the anti freeze and i still had the heat problem. there is only so much i can take b4 i go off big time on people and i know the louder you scream the less the people listen to you. so best i make the move now and decide if i want to try another spyder or give up riding.

 

[SteveMac]

i have been thinking about it and being the cooler weather is coming and i am hurting, feet and left leg i decided to try to see if i could off the bike. and i know i would only get madder if all they did was change the anti freeze and i still had the heat problem. there is only so much i can take b4 i go off big time on people and i know the louder you scream the less the people listen to you. so best i make the move now and decide if i want to try another spyder or give up riding.

Sorry for your trials and tribulations. But all in all sounds like you have a personal resolution and that is a good thing. No need to let this incident have a detrimental effect on your well being.

Will you you be able to return the Vertika stuff?

Wait till the 2014s come out and give them a shot. Maybe wait a couple of months to buy. That puts you in prime riding season in NY. Others in warm areas will be riding and reporting.

And if all else fails,,, there are alternatives. I am enjoying mine! I tried giving up riding. Now THAT didn't work!

 

[cuznjohn]

not sure

Sorry for your trials and tribulations. But all in all sounds like you have a personal resolution and that is a good thing. No need to let this incident have a detrimental effect on your well being.

Will you you be able to return the Vertika stuff?

Wait till the 2014s come out and give them a shot. Maybe wait a couple of months to buy. That puts you in prime riding season in NY. Others in warm areas will be riding and reporting.

And if all else fails,,, there are alternatives. I am enjoying mine! I tried giving up riding. Now THAT didn't work!

the vents are on their way and the paint came today so i am not sure but i will give someone on here a great deal if i decide to sell the vents and paint, who knows my bike may never sell,