2013 RT Heat Issue - Solved?

[3 Wheel Addict]

The Spyders are fuel injected with an electric fuel pump mounted in the tank to keep the pump cool and there is no possible way the system can suck air because it is all under pressure! If the hoses were to expand with heat then there would be huge fuel leaks. I'm calling BS on this fix as it makes no sense at all and he clearly don't understand the fuel injection system. Hope the OP did not pay too much cash for this bogus fix. Now if we are dealing with air leaks then that's different but I still do not see this as a fix for the heat problem were having.

 

[SNOOPY]

The Spyders are fuel injected with an electric fuel pump mounted in the tank to keep the pump cool and there is no possible way the system can suck air because it is all under pressure! If the hoses were to expand with heat then there would be huge fuel leaks. I'm calling BS on this fix as it makes no sense at all and he clearly don't understand the fuel injection system. Hope the OP did not pay too much cash for this bogus fix. Now if we are dealing with air leaks then that's different but I still do not see this as a fix for the heat problem were having.

Thats where my confusion came in knowing the system was under pressure, but not clear if he was talking about vacuum lines instead.

 

[Bob Denman]

my 2013 gas cap has been too hot to touch....plugs were chalky white....now after wrapped pipes, gas tank etc......temps still get to 150F at gas cap...but just off cap to tank 170F.....I would bet there is a 50F difference from before wrap to now....I'm not a mechanic.....just saying

Char,
Yours has also had a set of plug wires on it that seem to be pretty questionable... :shocked:

Have you swapped them out yet?

 

[CruiseRT]

Map Sensor Tubing

Is this the hoses that he is talking about?
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?61005-MAP-Sensor-Tubing-Caution

 

[DrewNJ]

Find a new mechanic now....He has no clue what he is talking about.

The fuel lines are not connected with barbed fittings on the throttle bodies...I forget off hand what the connection is called but it is similar to how a brake line attaches to a brake caliper. It's a round fitting with a bolt through it. The hose connected to that fitting are crimp fittings.
It's all top notch stuff.
If that fitting could allow air in, it would surely let fuel out when the system is under pressure.
Your mechanic is full of crap...

 

[flamingobabe]

Char,
Yours has also had a set of plug wires on it that seem to be pretty questionable... :shocked:

Have you swapped them out yet?

the Spyder is on the lift as I type.....new wires and plugs....working on hooking up heated seat and new back tire and just checking everything out....too cold and wet to ride....Mark is just taking his time......

johnmicb....interested in the outcome...would be tickled pink to find a fix for the 2013 ST...

 

[anthony422]

I had the panels taken off my bike this weekend and couldn't believe how the left pipe ran right into the gas tank, and there was even a channel where the pipe ran along the tank. A perfect heat source to heat up your fuel... I also noticed how difficult it would be to wrap these pipes properly.
I did wrap as much as possible including along the gas tank area and totally shielded the tank. I did notice however when the bike is running and NOT in motion I was running not as hot certainly my seat wasn't a sauna:clap:

 

[johnmicb]

I'll keep an open mind and wait for your summer report.




Edit. Think you are referring to the two vacum hoses, not fuel lines.

Thank you Jerbear. Your "edit" is correct. I was referring to two vacum hoses, not fuel lines. I recognized your correction in one of my prior responses, but it evidently was not picked up by all as there are still references to the fuel lines.

 

[Jeriatric]

Thank you Jerbear. Your "edit" is correct. I was referring to two vacum hoses, not fuel lines. I recognized your correction in one of my prior responses, but it evidently was not picked up by all as there are still references to the fuel lines.

Noticed that too. This should serve to sort it out. :thumbup:

 

[jerpinoy]

:welcome: and we hope you'll get this heat problem solve. Air circulation and ventilation will help the heat to exit. I'm sure BRP are keeping tab on this forum.

 

[gypsy_100]

Is this the hoses that he is talking about?
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?61005-MAP-Sensor-Tubing-Caution

That would be my guess. Emphasis on "guess". But it sounds like it.

 

[Jeriatric]

Is this the hoses that he is talking about?
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?61005-MAP-Sensor-Tubing-Caution

That would be my guess. Emphasis on "guess". But it sounds like it.

Yes :thumbup:

 

[Bob Denman]

the Spyder is on the lift as I type.....new wires and plugs....working on hooking up heated seat and new back tire and just checking everything out....too cold and wet to ride....Mark is just taking his time......

johnmicb....interested in the outcome...would be tickled pink to find a fix for the 2013 ST...

We're all waiting to hear what hopefully be some GREAT news! :thumbup:

:bbq::bbq::bbq:

 

[johnmicb]

I rumagged through the garage last night and found my laser infrared temperature gun. As soon as it warms up and stops raining, I will report back my findings.

 

[Bob Denman]

Thanks! :thumbup:
Here's to hoping for good news! :cheers:

 

[USAFE7RET]

The fittings commonly used in Brake connections are referred to as "Banjo fittings". Not sure why, as they never looked like any banjo I've ever played...

 

[Jeriatric]

I rumagged through the garage last night and found my laser infrared temperature gun. As soon as it warms up and stops raining, I will report back my findings.

Stops raining. Does that ever happen there? Kidding!

 

[Questions]

Agree

Find a new mechanic now....He has no clue what he is talking about.

The fuel lines are not connected with barbed fittings on the throttle bodies...I forget off hand what the connection is called but it is similar to how a brake line attaches to a brake caliper. It's a round fitting with a bolt through it. The hose connected to that fitting are crimp fittings.
It's all top notch stuff.
If that fitting could allow air in, it would surely let fuel out when the system is under pressure.
Your mechanic is full of crap...

I did not want to comment on this but you are correct about the fuel lines and being a leak and yes they are a Banjo fitting. If he is talking about the Map sensor hoses if anything they would be cracked and not loose as the inside diameter of the Map sensor hose is so small that even if the bike got hot there is no way they could leak because they are such a tight fit. If there was a leak from the Map sensor hoses as we have seen many cracked, there would be a severe running issue. I would find another dealer. Jus sayn.

 

[Anakrid]

Really?

Sorry to hear of your being conned by a mechanic. What you stated them doing is pure, unadulterated BS. You have been had. Run away and never return to the seen of the crime.

 

[3 Wheel Addict]

I had the panels taken off my bike this weekend and couldn't believe how the left pipe ran right into the gas tank, and there was even a channel where the pipe ran along the tank. A perfect heat source to heat up your fuel... I also noticed how difficult it would be to wrap these pipes properly.
I did wrap as much as possible including along the gas tank area and totally shielded the tank. I did notice however when the bike is running and NOT in motion I was running not as hot certainly my seat wasn't a sauna:clap:

Welcome to the club! Here's a link to my thread on wrapping the exhaust system. Something to keep in mind, I am still unsure if this is actually helping with the 13 heat issues. It was turning colder when I did this project and the only way to be sure if this is going to help is to ride next summer. Hopefully BRP will come through with a fix for us all on this issue, we are all still waiting to see that happen.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...g-exhaust-pipes!&highlight=adventure+wrapping