2013 RT Elevated Temperature in Engine Compartment - Safety Campaign

[ThreeWheels]

According to some of the techs I spoke to part of the fix was to readjust the fuel mix and most likely the fuel milage will decrease. Looking for verification.....I like the Spyder and plan on keeping it for a while, but also looking to the future......

From a theoretical standpoint, lower gas mileage is a likely possibility. We know that BRP is remapping the fuel injection.
Since many people were unhappy with the range of the Spyder, BRP may have leaned out the mixture to help increase mileage, thus adding to the heat issue.
I would anticipate the remap consists of increasing the fuel rate to cool down the engine, but honestly, I'm just speculating.
Like so many, I don't have a 2013, but lots of my friends do, so I hope the fix works out well.
The scoops will, however, make the 2013 model year visually apparent, even from a distance. Who knows, that unique feature might even make the Spyder more valuable in years to come.

Once again, I'm disheartened that a thread has turned into a flame war. That's too bad. Some people need to get more of a life.

 

[robmorg]

Wow, this thread is way to tense for me!...[emoji38]

Yeah, and other than maybe just one short post, YOU weren't even in it up 'till now....

 

[finless]

I have had my Spyder apart many many times. Yes it is a 2011 not a 2013 But I would not worry about water coming in at the scoop area.
All of the connectors and harnesses in the sides near the scoops are Delphi water proof connectors. I really do not think this will be an issue.
Prior to the scoops you DO have open vents there anyway. Rain for sure would have also gotten on there.

As for gas mileage. I think it might get better on the highway. The are converting the fuel regulator to a dead head type setup. This means it will be richer when idling but may in fact get leaner at highway speed when plenty of air moving will keep the engine and you cool.
We will see when people start riding. So if you do a lot of stop and go riding, you may see worse gas mileage. If you do a lot of highway, you may see better. Just my opinion based on the changes I see them doing. As far as the BUDs update and what it does, who knows! But for sure that is being done to work with the fuel regulator changes.

Bob

 

[robmorg]

.... I was told you have a sweet imag?

I don't know how "sweet" Bob is, but Wyliec said he had a "goody-2-shoes" image that he was trying to shed. Come to think of it, that may be true. I haven't seen "ATGATT" in one of his posts now for at least a good month and a half.

Sorry Bob. Since everyone else is pickin' on you lately, I thought I might as well join in. pps:

 

[Bensonoid]

Hopeful

I hope if there is a decrease in MPG it will be offset by fuel that no longer overflows from the evap canister and fumes that are no longer being inhaled by me every time I slow down or stop on a warm day. I like the look of the scoops, I always thought that area was a void that needed to be filled.

 

[robmorg]

As for gas mileage. I think it might get better on the highway. The are converting the fuel regulator to a dead head type setup. This means it will be richer when idling but may in fact get leaner at highway speed when plenty of air moving will keep the engine and you cool.
Bob

I suspect that may be right on, Bob. Either way, I don't expect it will effect the overall MPG all that much. As for stop & go speeds, I'll welcome all the cooling fuel that the BRP techs want to throw at me at those times. But they did try that last year in WB 2013-9, and it didn't seem to help all that much. Maybe they weren't aggressive enough with the mixture change at that time, and they have more room to go, but there is only so much cooling you can achieve with mixture. Also, the richer you make it, the more the plugs will fowl, and they are a bear to change.

...which reminds me... I'm going to ask the dealer to change the plugs when they do this recall - "whether they need it or not".

 

[robmorg]

I hope if there is a decrease in MPG it will be offset by fuel that no longer overflows from the evap canister and fumes that are no longer being inhaled by me every time I slow down or stop on a warm day. I like the look of the scoops, I always thought that area was a void that needed to be filled.

Good thought! :thumbup: I forgot how much fuel is currently boiling off on some of the 2013 RT's. That SHOULD improve mileage, IMO.

 

[DrewNJ]

Yeah, and other than maybe just one short post, YOU weren't even in it up 'till now....

I know, right! Trying to play nicer in the sandbox.

Not saying it's a bad decision, but let's just say surprised to see the deadhead fueling. Typically, people mod the other way and convert dead head, to a return style.
The reasons are:
-typically more consistent fuel pressure with a return system. Deadhead systems do go rich at idle.
-fuel typically runs cooler in a return system. It heats up quicker sitting in the rail.
-fuel pumps tend to last considerably longer in a return system..

However, all of this may have needed to be done as a way to richen things up. It's actually kind of a backyard way of richening things up, but I guess I shouldn't say it that way....[emoji16]

Either way, I just hope it works out for everyone.

 

[Bob Denman]

I don't know how "sweet" Bob is, but Wyliec said he had a "goody-2-shoes" image that he was trying to shed. Come to think of it, that may be true. I haven't seen "ATGATT" in one of his posts now for at least a good month and a half.

Sorry Bob. Since everyone else is pickin' on you lately, I thought I might as well join in. pps:

 

[BRPcare]

1. I understand that the gas milage will decrease with the recall, if true what is the estimated MPG

Hi Commander,
We don't expect the gas mileage to be noticeably lower after the recall.

 

[Commander]

Thank you Steve

 

[R&L Limted]

Hi Commander,
We don't expect the gas mileage to be noticeably lower after the recall.

This is good news, Thank you for this , Please give me your advice on what will be or is available that will work with this recall to route air flow to me & my passenger. Thank you in advance.:bowdown:

 

[Magdave]

This is good news, Thank you for this , Please give me your advice on what will be or is available that will work with this recall to route air flow to me & my passenger. Thank you in advance.:bowdown:

A vent in the windshield or lower Baker wings. I doubt BRP will make anything for a one off 5000 unit roadster.:dontknow:

 

[R&L Limted]

A vent in the windshield or lower Baker wings. I doubt BRP will make anything for a one off 5000 unit roadster.:dontknow:

Thank you Magdave, does the vent in the windshield work good ? Wonder why BRP Steve has not responded to this , I have asked three times?opcorn:

 

[Lou]

Dealer called last Friday - Parts are in, time to schedule operation.....

 

[DARRELL8755]

parts

It seems that the dealers are getting the parts fast. Thanks brp...

 

[Magdave]

Thank you Magdave, does the vent in the windshield work good ? Wonder why BRP Steve has not responded to this , I have asked three times?opcorn:

Reports are the vent in the windshield work well. BRP only answers what they want to. Here are some links they come in 23" or 25" but I seem to remember you can buy just the vent and self install I am still looking for that.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?53081-Can-Am-Vented-Windshield-for-Spyder-RT-S

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-CAN...60-/301122089932?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

https://www.f4customs.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=299

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Can-Am-...35-/251886973141?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

http://www.amazon.com/Spyder-Touring-Adjustable-Windshield-219400435/dp/B00B0E1TL4

Here is one Inspector Gadget says works and is self install

http://www.saber-cycle.com/store/product197.html

 

[WellsboroSpyder]

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How many received your official letter from nhtsa about the fix? And are you aware of why not?

 

[finless]

A vent in the windshield or lower Baker wings. I doubt BRP will make anything for a one off 5000 unit roadster.:dontknow:

 

[daviszoo1]

mail

wellsborospyder we have not received any notification from BRP as yet. Needless to say like everyone else on the site have been following all of the notifications here..