What will void my warranty

[sddinnh]

I really think those Tollhouse cookies make a difference though ...

Your Tollhouse cookies maybe, mine not so much :banghead:

 

[nikki.ullis]

Gray Ghost is absolutely correct. A dealer cannot force you to buy their products or services to maintain your warranty and they cannot deny your warranty because you have an aftermarket part on your vehicle if it has nothing to do with the failure.

I own an auto repair facility and we get a lot of people come in and tell us they would like to bring us their brand new car but it would void their warranty, I just wanted to post on here and make sure everyone knows that IT DOES NOT VOID WARRANTY. As long as you keep receipts of repairs done (like oil changes or tire rotation or whatever) then your good. You do not have to have the dealer service your vehicles.
Now, if you have a seat that starts to melt because you didn't install your two brothers exhaust correctly...well...thats a different story. your installation of an aftermarket part caused the damage/failure.
But, trailer hitches? they aren't going to put up a fight because they would lose, as long as your trailer hitch is rated for the same load or higher your good.
Wiring harness prolly wont be an issue either so long as you have installed your aftermarket one correctly.
But just by putting your aftermarket part on the bike does not void your bikes warranty, no matter what the manual says. Federal law trumps them.

 

[Woodsrider]

Your Tollhouse cookies maybe, mine not so much :banghead:

Yeh dealer can be a real problem. Since I'm buying mine used, I don't have a dealer loyalty issue. The closest dealer (15 miles), is also Kaw, Yam, Hon, KTM, etc, and has consistently screwed up every single job i've brought them for about 8 years. From a tire change to a scheduled service, they leave parts off, misalign parts, forget things, or go complete fubar (once put the adjustable handlebars on an FJR back on in two different positions, the left all the way in, the right all the way out). I had the FJR once stick open at WOT when the throttle linkage jammed due to a setting they did.

So....nicest guys in the world and great parts department. I use 'em for inspections . There's a Can-am shop 70 miles away that has a good reputation and been in the area a long time, I'm going to bring them the new to me :spyder2: for a going over, oil change, and hookup to computer for updates. I may even bring a box of donuts to start the relationship.

 

[OJ UK]

There's a Can-am shop 70 miles away that has a good reputation and been in the area a long time, I'm going to bring them the new to me :spyder2: for a going over, oil change, and hookup to computer for updates. I may even bring a box of donuts to start the relationship.

A case of beer would work better!! :yes:

 

[Woodsrider]

A case of beer would work better!! :yes:

Only if there is a time-lock on the beer...no quaffing until the work is done!!

 

[jaherbst]

Dad's are great guys, I know because I'm a dad! But dad's are not always right. The only thing required for you to maintain your warranty is that you keep records of when you changed your oil AND filters and which oil you used.

If you want to be 100% bullet proof keep the following.

Mileage
Date
Oil Used (keep sales receipt)
Filters used (keep sales receipt)

As long as you used products that meet or exceed manufacturer's specifications (which includes ALL aftermarket filters) then you are good to go. You need to pay some attention to the oil you use as, obviously, not all oils are going to meet or exceed the manufacturer's specs. But finding an oil that does is not difficult.

Good luck and happy maintenance! You'll do as good or possibly a better job (for less money) than you'd get at some dealerships. And, you'll learn something about your Spyder! Priceless!

Correct

 

[JerryB]

Hi Cliff,

Re: I am merely stating what I was taught about warranties in factory training for Harley Davidson, Yamaha, Suzuki, and Kawasaki . . . So, if your radio fails, they cannot fail to honor the warranty just because you have an aftermarket trailer hitch.

This I agree with. I have taken a number of people to Small Claims Court ( no lawyer needed and they cannot bring one ) and have never lost. Small Claims Court here in Oregon is now up to $5.000.00. It does take time and you have to do your homework.

Oh, it also helps that my son is an attorney. :yes:

I have no axe to grind with any dealership, but I have gotten far better service and honesty ( which is most important to me ) at independent repair shops ( various cars & motorcycles that I have owned ).

Jerry Baumchen

 

[larrymz3]

Google the Magnusson Moss act...

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[sparks82]

I am merely stating what I was taught about warranties in factory training for Harley Davidson, Yamaha, Suzuki, and Kawasaki. The pertinent portion of the law is:
"§ 700.10 Section 102(c).
(a) Section 102(c) prohibits tying arrangements that condition coverage under a written warranty on the consumer's use of an article or service identified by brand, trade, or corporate name unless that article or service is provided without charge to the consumer.
(b) Under a limited warranty that provides only for replacement of defective parts and no portion of labor charges, section 102(c) prohibits a condition that the consumer use only service (labor) identified by the warrantor to install the replacement parts. A warrantor or his designated representative may not provide parts under the warranty in a manner which impedes or precludes the choice by the consumer of the person or business to perform necessary labor to install such parts.
(c) No warrantor may condition the continued validity of a warranty on the use of only authorized repair service and/or authorized replacement parts for non-warranty service and maintenance. For example, provisions such as, "This warranty is void if service is performance by anyone other than an authorized 'ABC' dealer and all replacement parts must be genuine 'ABC' parts," and the like, are prohibited where the service or parts are not covered by the warranty. These provisions violate the Act in two ways. First, they violate the section 102(c) ban against tying arrangements. Second, such provisions are deceptive under section 110 of the Act, because a warrantor cannot, as a matter of law, avoid liability under a written warranty where a defect is unrelated to the use by a consumer of "unauthorized" articles or service. This does not preclude a warrantor from expressly excluding liability for defects or damage caused by such "unauthorized" articles or service; nor does it preclude the warrantor from denying liability where the warrantor can demonstrate that the defect or damage was so caused." (http://www.autosafety.org/interpretations-magnuson-moss-warranty-act)

So, if your radio fails, they cannot fail to honor the warranty just because you have an aftermarket trailer hitch.

Harley-Davidson hit with antitrust suit over warranty policy

https://www.courthousenews.com/harley-davidson-hit-with-antitrust-suit-over-warranty-policy/

 

[askitee]

I see a lot of interesting information. Who can offer an opinion from the dealers' and manufacturers' perspectives?