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What will void my warranty

I think it is obvious the customer should strive to maintain a good relationship with the dealer.
I have always done the all the work I can on my bikes and order from discount places.
I am by all means not a wealthy person that can support the local dealers and pay their prices just to to have a good relationship.

Never had any problems having warranty work done with the Spyder or my Harley's.
 
Do you really think

I have always done the all the work I can on my bikes and order from discount places.
I am by all means not a wealthy person that can support the local dealers and pay their prices just to to have a good relationship.

Never had any problems having warranty work done with the Spyder or my Harley's.

the way to maintain a good relationship is to spend money? Hardly! Being civil and polite will do much better. And from your post, I would suspect you already are.
 
If you do not install a trailer hitch made by Cam Am your warrenty will be void

I don't speak legalese and my father a top mechanic for 30 years with all A.S.E certifications known to man, Told me today that doing my own oil changes on the Spyder would void my warranty.From what i have read not getting the services done and some aftermarket tuning are the only thing that might tip the scales. So please well informed Spyder community tell me what will void my warranty? Im on day 2 with 250 miles And smiles.

Hi folks , I just learned if you don't install a trailer hitch made by Can Am your warranty is void.
 
Hi folks , I just learned if you don't install a trailer hitch made by Can Am your warranty is void.

Not sure where you "learned" that, but the Manuson-Moss Warranty Act in the US disagrees with your source. The warrantor cannot require the use of branded parts. The only time that having non-OEM parts would affect your warranty is if it can be proven that those parts were the cause of the problem. So, for example, if your radio fails during its warranty covered period, having an aftermarket trailer hitch would have no bearing.
 
Not sure where you "learned" that, but the Manuson-Moss Warranty Act in the US disagrees with your source. The warrantor cannot require the use of branded parts. The only time that having non-OEM parts would affect your warranty is if it can be proven that those parts were the cause of the problem. So, for example, if your radio fails during its warranty covered period, having an aftermarket trailer hitch would have no bearing.

Agreed!

Bob
 
Well that settles it; I'm gonna go get me a BRP trailer hitch, and get it nailed in place, before they find out that I don't have one either! :shocked:

:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
 
Not sure where you "learned" that, but the Manuson-Moss Warranty Act in the US disagrees with your source. The warrantor cannot require the use of branded parts. The only time that having non-OEM parts would affect your warranty is if it can be proven that those parts were the cause of the problem. So, for example, if your radio fails during its warranty covered period, having an aftermarket trailer hitch would have no bearing.
2014 CAN-AM SPYDER accessory catalog, Page 72:
This is the only hitch system that maintains your vehicle's warranty.
This is a sidebar with the picture and description of the SPYDER RT TRAILER HITCH KIT AND CONTROL MODULE
 
From 2011 OM

EXCLUSIONS - 'ARE NOT WARRANTIED'


Damage resulting from the installation of parts with ●specifications that differ from● the original Spyder parts, such as, without limitation, different tires, exhaust system, wheels or brakes. Damage resulting from removal of parts, improper repairs, improper service or improper maintenance. Modifications, or alterations that are outside the original specifications of the roadster.
 
2014 CAN-AM SPYDER accessory catalog, Page 72: This is a sidebar with the picture and description of the SPYDER RT TRAILER HITCH KIT AND CONTROL MODULE

The blanket statement that the warranty is invalid is not correct in accordance with US law. If you install an aftermarket trailer hitch and they can prove that the hitch caused damage, then the warranty would not apply. However, as I pointed out before, if the radio fails and you have an aftermarket hitch they cannot claim that the radio is not under warranty because of the aftermarket hitch. Federal law trumps a line in an owners manual.
 
Warranty Interpretation

The blanket statement that the warranty is invalid is not correct in accordance with US law.★ If you install an aftermarket trailer hitch and they can prove that the hitch caused damage, then the warranty would not apply.★ However, as I pointed out before, if the radio fails and you have an aftermarket hitch they cannot claim that the radio is not under warranty because of the aftermarket hitch. Federal law trumps a line in an owners manual.

★Politely disagree. They can say it or any other modification caused a problem. Which leaves the owner with the burden to prove it did not.
 
The funny thing is; when it ends up in court, you know that the jury is gonna have a real tough time ruling in favor of the "Big Greedy Corporation", over the poor, much put-upon consumer... :D

...just sayin'...
 
The funny thing is; when it ends up in court, you know that the jury is gonna have a real tough time ruling in favor of the "Big Greedy Corporation", over the poor, much put-upon consumer... :D

...just sayin'...

All to often corporate legals have weighed the odds and found dealing with things on a case by case basis can be a money saver.
 
All to often corporate legals have weighed the odds and found dealing with things on a case by case basis can be a money saver.

On top of that they are betting the average person would not spend the time or money to hire a lawyer and take BRP to court over a $1,000 or even a $2,000 charge. Now if your engine blew up or you burned to the ground, that might be different e.g. someone might in fact go to court!. But as Jerbear is basically saying, they are betting on the "come". And that is that most wont spend the time or money to pursue a legal battle.

Bob
 
The blanket statement that the warranty is invalid is not correct in accordance with US law. If you install an aftermarket trailer hitch and they can prove that the hitch caused damage, then the warranty would not apply. However, as I pointed out before, if the radio fails and you have an aftermarket hitch they cannot claim that the radio is not under warranty because of the aftermarket hitch. Federal law trumps a line in an owners manual.
I wasn't disagreeing with your post. The only purpose of my post was to illustrate where a previous poster "learned" that business about the trailer hitch... which was misinterpreted in yet another post. So I just supplied the exact words, for everybody to see... :dontknow:
 
★Politely disagree. They can say it or any other modification caused a problem. Which leaves the owner with the burden to prove it did not.

I am merely stating what I was taught about warranties in factory training for Harley Davidson, Yamaha, Suzuki, and Kawasaki. The pertinent portion of the law is:
"§ 700.10 Section 102(c).
(a) Section 102(c) prohibits tying arrangements that condition coverage under a written warranty on the consumer's use of an article or service identified by brand, trade, or corporate name unless that article or service is provided without charge to the consumer.
(b) Under a limited warranty that provides only for replacement of defective parts and no portion of labor charges, section 102(c) prohibits a condition that the consumer use only service (labor) identified by the warrantor to install the replacement parts. A warrantor or his designated representative may not provide parts under the warranty in a manner which impedes or precludes the choice by the consumer of the person or business to perform necessary labor to install such parts.
(c) No warrantor may condition the continued validity of a warranty on the use of only authorized repair service and/or authorized replacement parts for non-warranty service and maintenance. For example, provisions such as, "This warranty is void if service is performance by anyone other than an authorized 'ABC' dealer and all replacement parts must be genuine 'ABC' parts," and the like, are prohibited where the service or parts are not covered by the warranty. These provisions violate the Act in two ways. First, they violate the section 102(c) ban against tying arrangements. Second, such provisions are deceptive under section 110 of the Act, because a warrantor cannot, as a matter of law, avoid liability under a written warranty where a defect is unrelated to the use by a consumer of "unauthorized" articles or service. This does not preclude a warrantor from expressly excluding liability for defects or damage caused by such "unauthorized" articles or service; nor does it preclude the warrantor from denying liability where the warrantor can demonstrate that the defect or damage was so caused." (http://www.autosafety.org/interpretations-magnuson-moss-warranty-act)

So, if your radio fails, they cannot fail to honor the warranty just because you have an aftermarket trailer hitch.
 
I wasn't disagreeing with your post. The only purpose of my post was to illustrate where a previous poster "learned" that business about the trailer hitch... which was misinterpreted in yet another post. So I just supplied the exact words, for everybody to see... :dontknow:
I apologize, I had lost track of who the OP was.
 
the way to maintain a good relationship is to spend money? Hardly! Being civil and polite will do much better. And from your post, I would suspect you already are.

Mmmmm, and Tollhouse cookies go a long way, LOL. :ohyea: Whenever I'm in town (2 hours away) I just walk in the service bay and the Service Writer, mechanics and techs all come out for a little break - knowing I have a plate of cookies in hand. They know who I am and even recognize my voice when I call. I'm sure sometimes they wish they didn't when I am addressing a 'situation' :lecturef_smilie: but I make sure I'm not just another customer walking in the door. I'm always friendly and polite but firm and persistent and they work for me, not the other way around. If I need to address a 'situation' I do so in a civil manner. I don't always get satisfaction but I make sure not to take it out on them

I also do my research before I go in and since I sometimes know more than they about what is going on, because of that research, so they are always on their toes and ready to answer my ton of questions. They also know I don't like to spend money and will go out of my way not to do so. They routinely throw in little freebies - a bolt here, a plastic washer there, adding some extra heat shielding at no charge. If any fluids are involved in a service that I might be charged for I take them my own (oil, coolant, etc.). We change our own oil and service our machines ourselves. We keep receipts and records.

I know not all dealers are created equal but I really think those Tollhouse cookies make a difference though ...
 
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