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Coolant mixture: your opinions?
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MikeinGA
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I would make the mix:
Distilled water - 60% = 76.8 oz.
Anti-freeze - 40% = 51.2 oz.
WaterWetter - 6 oz
The anti-freeze has lubricant and anti-corrosion additives in it, needed to work in the Rotax engine. Synthetic oil will help keep the engine cooler in
hotter temperatures. That's IMHO.
Mike
BajaRon
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My concern would be with boil-over. Just because your temp gauge says 215 (I know it doesn't because it's just blocks, but humor me), doesn't mean that a 220 coolant isn't boiling. What you aren't factoring in is the temperature of the coolant touching the cylinder wall. If you only have a 5 degree buffer you are probably getting a boil at the coolant to metal surface in some areas.
Right now I'm running a 70% water, 30% coolant with Water Wetter. But I'm going to try something new this year.
I can't recommend this personally, but I'm certainly going to try it. If my research is good, it will give me not only a cooler running engine, it will also protect better against freeze and boil over compared to my current concoction.
Be careful not to use a coolant with abrasives (silicates, etc.)
Right now I'm running a 70% water, 30% coolant with Water Wetter. But I'm going to try something new this year.
I can't recommend this personally, but I'm certainly going to try it. If my research is good, it will give me not only a cooler running engine, it will also protect better against freeze and boil over compared to my current concoction.
Be careful not to use a coolant with abrasives (silicates, etc.)
Flamewinger
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Any thoughts on Engine Ice? Is it ok to use in our Rotax engines?
Thx
Thx
BajaRon
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According to the information available, LP works better then Engine Ice. But I believe that Engine Ice is good to go in our Rotax engine.
r1100rider
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Everyone needs to be looking at Evans waterless coolant it has many advantages it doesn't boil away it's non corrosive it has much higher boiling point it doesn't have air pockets ,a lot of racers use it and trucks also they get better mileage because there fans kick on less causing engine dragMy concern would be with boil-over. Just because your temp gauge says 215 (I know it doesn't because it's just blocks, but humor me), doesn't mean that a 220 coolant isn't boiling. What you aren't factoring in is the temperature of the coolant touching the cylinder wall. If you only have a 5 degree buffer you are probably getting a boil at the coolant to metal surface in some areas.
Right now I'm running a 70% water, 30% coolant with Water Wetter. But I'm going to try something new this year.
I can't recommend this personally, but I'm certainly going to try it. If my research is good, it will give me not only a cooler running engine, it will also protect better against freeze and boil over compared to my current concoction.
Be careful not to use a coolant with abrasives (silicates, etc.)
Spyder Tony
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I don't mean to hijack this thread, but please let me "borrow" it for a moment, as I need an education and think i'm learning something here with this discussion. I was considering running Redline's Supercool Performance Coolant which contains Water Wetter. A friend with a bike says he runs it 100% no antifreeze because of Where we live (California). He is recommending I should do the same on both of our Spyders.
If I am understanding the conversation correctly. I should not use this mixture without an anti-freeze (as my friend suggested) because anti-freeze has lubricant and anti-corrosion additives in it. If I do use the product this summer, should I go with a 70% (SuperCool) 30% (Anti-freeze) mixture?
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:Thanks for the anticipated responses:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
If I am understanding the conversation correctly. I should not use this mixture without an anti-freeze (as my friend suggested) because anti-freeze has lubricant and anti-corrosion additives in it. If I do use the product this summer, should I go with a 70% (SuperCool) 30% (Anti-freeze) mixture?
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:Thanks for the anticipated responses:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
BajaRon
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I cannot verify their numbers, but this brand (Red Line SuperCool) was one of the hotter running mixtures on the LP chart. You would think Red Line would be screaming if those numbers were bogus.
Spyder Tony
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Thanks for the info, Drew!!!
Ron, I see your chart where Redline Supercool was much hotter than the Liquid Performance stuff you were recommending. I think i'll give up the convenience of being aboe to get the Supercool at my local CycleGear and try the Liquid performance you recommend. Are you stocking & selling the Liquid Performance? If so, how much?
Ron, I see your chart where Redline Supercool was much hotter than the Liquid Performance stuff you were recommending. I think i'll give up the convenience of being aboe to get the Supercool at my local CycleGear and try the Liquid performance you recommend. Are you stocking & selling the Liquid Performance? If so, how much?
BajaRon
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No, I'm not selling it so no pony in the race here. The least expensive I could find is here. They aren't giving it away anywhere...
[h=4]LIQUID PERFORMANCE STREET BIKECOOLANT 64 OZ[/h]
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r1100rider
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Isn't anyone going to look at or comment on the waterless coolant it has a bunch of pluses over and regular types
BajaRon
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I wasn't going to comment because it's been awhile since I looked into that product. It has some pluses but there were also some negatives when I did research it. Maybe they've got them ironed out. But at the time it didn't seem appealing to me overall.
cjackg
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My concern would be with boil-over. Just because your temp gauge says 215 (I know it doesn't because it's just blocks, but humor me), doesn't mean that a 220 coolant isn't boiling. What you aren't factoring in is the temperature of the coolant touching the cylinder wall. If you only have a 5 degree buffer you are probably getting a boil at the coolant to metal surface in some areas.
Right now I'm running a 70% water, 30% coolant with Water Wetter. But I'm going to try something new this year.
I can't recommend this personally, but I'm certainly going to try it. If my research is good, it will give me not only a cooler running engine, it will also protect better against freeze and boil over compared to my current concoction.
Be careful not to use a coolant with abrasives (silicates, etc.)
Thats an interesting looking product and I saw it is sold a number of places but could not find much detailed discussion, specs, directions, etc.
Can it be mixed with the existing coolant in the Rotax? Anyone have any links to more info or reviews ....?
BajaRon
Well-known member
Rule of thumb, which I'm sure you're familiar with, is to flush the old out completely before putting in a different kind of coolant. Some will mix, others won't. I have ordered this product and it may have more info on the container. If not, I will call LP and see if I can get some answers.
If it is as good as they claim, it will be a big improvement for many.
