I know , I know, this is old news (Hand Brake lever)

[OldDog]

I know this is an old and much discussed topic. Is there a legal reason for not putting a factory hand brake on the Spyder? Is it to keep the Spyder from being defined as a motorcycle rather than a roadster? With all the technology that is already on the Spyder , why not a dual braking system? This has probably already been discussed ad nauseam. I'm curious. I'd say the majority of the people on this forum have had previous motorcycle experience and had to unlearn a few things. I have read of several incidences where a hand brake would have saved a rollback, for instance. I know this is a dead horse.

 

[Bob Denman]

Even though it's dead; there must be some good meat somewhere on this carcass! :shocked:
Can Am may have been looking at trying to keep the roadster from being classified as a motorcycle, but it didn't seem to work out as planned.
I asked some Reps if there had been any discussions or plans to put a handbrake on future models....
"No plans" was the terse response that I got.

 

[boborgera]

Why easy

Being that most Spyder owners are up in age,
BRP didn't want an extra lever on the handlebar to confuse them.:roflblack:

 

[ThreeFeet]

Being that most Spyder owners are up in age,
BRP didn't want an extra lever on the handlebar to confuse them.:roflblack:

Like all the buttons don't do that already!!!!:roflblack:nojoke AND IT STILL DOESN'T HAVE A CUP HOLDER!!!:banghead:

 

[Pennyrick]

Why spend money when the design doesn't call for it?

A two wheeled cycle probably requires independent braking but three wheels offer stability so that combined braking makes sense.... probably would have added $600-700 to the manufacturing cost of the Spyder.

 

[jScotD]

I bought the $1400 dollar handbrake... as was mentioned in an earlier thread , I was grabbing for the hand brake as I was rolling backwards ..automatic.. actually put my feet down to stoppps:

When I was riding BMW sport bikes.. someone said "nice helmet" how much did you pay for it? I said a shade under $500... they said "why?" you can get a DOT Helmet for arond $100... I said I don't have a $100 head... that's the way I feel about paying $1400 for a hand brake.. my life is worth more than $1400... and $1400 wouldn't even begin to pay the hospital, if i wrecked.. and was stomping around trying to find the foot brake... artificial right leg I have.. hit or miss..

 

[OldDog]

How do those of you with lots of miles on a Spyder feel about no hand brake lever? What is BRP's reason for not providing it? Should Spyders come standard with a hand brake lever in addition to the foot brake pedal? If enough people asked for it, could it become a reality? I guess I should ask ,is this something people want or am I just rambling?

 

[jScotD]

I think they should pardner with ISCI.. these people have the real deal.. there is no reason NOT to have back up breaking.. If the Can AM is slated for Boomers.. they grew up on motorcycles...

 

[NancysToy]

How do those of you with lots of miles on a Spyder feel about no hand brake lever? What is BRP's reason for not providing it? Should Spyders come standard with a hand brake lever in addition to the foot brake pedal? If enough people asked for it, could it become a reality? I guess I should ask ,is this something people want or am I just rambling?

I ride lots of bikes, and ride the Spyders even more. I will admit that I am used to "switch hitting", riding bikes with and without clutches, brakes on the right or left, turn signals (if any) in different locations, etc. I don't miss the brake lever at all, nor do I think it is a hazard not to have one. Yes, I will occasionally "grab air" in a quick stop...so what? It does no harm. I don't have a bike with integrated brakes, so I would never, ever grab just the brake lever. Since I am always using my foot anyway, my reaction time is the same, Spyder or bike. At first, I worried that I would forget to use the front brake when I switched back to a bike, but that has never happened. It would be a valid argument for some owners, I guess. Like driving your car instead of your Spyder, the mind and body change their reactions to accommodate your situation, so you will go for the proper controls if you are aware and skilled. It is important to understand the machine's limitations, and make sure you can reach the brake if pushing the Spyder or rolling it (especially on a slope), but the same would go for pushing your car in the driveway. You need to be aware of what you ride, familiar with its equipment, and comfortable with its operation. That's why BRP has included a skills course in the owners guide. When you get a Spyder, do some parking lot practice until you are comfortable and familiar with the controls and the Spyder's reactions. It is a simple matter of learning. If you feel the need for a hand lever, buy the ISCI. Why should everyone pay the extra money for the lever, when only certain owners want one and the Spyder is perfectly safe and functional without it? You don't think that BRP would have given it away for free, do you? JMHO

 

[Phillig]

I agree with Scotty. I reached for the handbrake for awhile after beginning to ride the Spyder but now I don't. It hasn't affected me when going back to bikes with handbrakes. But I do believe that if a rider feels like they would be safer with a handbrake that may be a good option for them.

For whatever reason the CanAm designers/engineers decided to go the way they did is fine with me. It's their best thinking on how to get the job done.

 

[jScotD]

i agree it perfectly safe without one.. but recent accidents visited.. where the individual said they went grabbing and his wife hit the ground.. and those of us with legs missing... they offer clutches for the standard shifts.. ... why not hand brakes? I have no problem paying the 1400 bucks ...for the hand brake... works for me... the Spyder is not perfect.. that is why there are aftermarket people that understand.

 

[ARtraveler]

A good subject for discussion. I am 100% in agreement with what Scotty says.

I have over 50,000 miles on :spyder2:'s and at least 250,000 miles on two wheelers. I have not missed the handbrake at all. The fact that we have ABS, IMO, makes up for the lack of a handbrake. When I was driving both flavors of motorcycle, I just made sure I put the right hat on before climbing aboard. I have never had a situation where I grabbed for air when I wanted to stop quickly when riding the :ani29:.

For me, the lack of a handbrake is not a safety issue.

 

[bikeguy]

I still reach for a hand brake every once in a while but not nearly as often as I used to. I wish I had one but I'm not willing to pay what the ISCI brake costs and I don't think it's a safety issue at all. I went dirt riding on my dirt bike last week and, like Scotty said, had no problem using the front brake even though it had been a while since I rode it. Your body and your muscles do whatever needs to be done depending on what you are operating.

Cotton

 

[r1100rider]

i agree it perfectly safe without one.. but recent accidents visited.. where the individual said they went grabbing and his wife hit the ground.. and those of us with legs missing... they offer clutches for the standard shifts.. ... why not hand brakes? I have no problem paying the 1400 bucks ...for the hand brake... works for me... the Spyder is not perfect.. that is why there are aftermarket people that understand.

If the handbrake was just built into every production unit the cost would be next to nothing at that level it's the variant in the products that add the most to the cost look at cars and the options of a/c and power steering and windows once those were on all cars the cost was greatly minimized you can't hardly buy a new car without a/c the hand brake should be on all spyders and we should not even have to talk about it

 

[Dizneyman]

Im glad there is no handbrake. Me likes one foot one pedal. The "Kiss" Method !!

 

[Bob Denman]

I also agree with Scotty. :thumbup:
If you can't figure out how to adjust to something that's a little bit different; how'd you ever get this far in life? :dontknow:

 

[papoandma]

I am 6-4,and the only reason I am thinking about a hand brake is when my feet are way up on the road pegs it takes a little bit to get my legs folded back up and on the brake. Otherwise I don't miss the hand brake.

 

[mooneych]

I am 6-4,and the only reason I am thinking about a hand brake is when my feet are way up on the road pegs it takes a little bit to get my legs folded back up and on the brake. Otherwise I don't miss the hand brake.

I have road pegs on the bike as well, but only use them when I'm on the road. Using the pegs in traffic, where you might have to use the brake quickly, is unsafe. :lecturef_smilie:

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree::yikes::yikes:

 

[papoandma]

I have road pegs on the bike as well, but only use them when I'm on the road. Using the pegs in traffic, where you might have to use the brake quickly, is unsafe. :lecturef_smilie:

:agree: But on the road we have deer that can jump into the way, and you can't tell what the cagers are going to do sometimes. Things fall off car and trucks all the time.