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[dltang]

I still stand by my thoughts as this most likely being related to alcohol and/or excess speed and probably partially along with fatigue and/or lack of knowledge or experience with handing the Spyder at speed around a turn.

Either way, we'll never know and shouldn't speculate or point fingers. A young man has lost his life, that's the only focus this thread should have.

If you want to complain about DPS, I believe there are other threads for that.

:agree:

 

[Desert Spyder]

How in the heck did his body fly up on top of the overpass? Would it be safe to say thats 18-20 ft from the road below? Do you think this could have been a hit & run? RIP fellow ryder.

PS ... I did some more research with the local newspaper and the bike fell off the overpass. And he wasn't wearing a helmet.

 

[Spydeb]

Thoughts and prayers for him and his family. May all riders keep safe, this was a terrible tragedy!

 

[Skidoodon]

Thoughts and prayers are with his family.

 

[SpyderWolf]

How in the heck did his body fly up on top of the overpass? Would it be safe to say thats 18-20 ft from the road below? Do you think this could have been a hit & run? RIP fellow ryder.

If it happened where I am thinking it did, I have ridden through their before, and it is actually an over and under type situation, with pretty tight curves and 25 mph warning signs for the big rigs. It would be very possible for him to lose control on the overpass and have the Spyder end up underneath it.

This is a tragic event and my condolences also go out to this young man's family.

I also agree that this is not the thread to begin another DPS debate in.

 

[jsmiley]

i guess we will have to wait and see if it happens a few more times, then just maybe, it might be the time to talk about it. Or we can just sit around and bitch about who did or didn't get a 5k mile/Km pin, which is obviously more important and interesting topic around here. Now that is a serious real-world topic to bring to the attention of BRP.

Seriously what is the magic number of reported incidents incidents or mysterious deaths, before it becomes a serious topic? Do we just call them all driver fatigue, alcohol related, or excesive speed. We have to as we have no other choice, cause you dingbats want to sweep it under the rug.

I guess the Toyota owners were just driving too fast and trainded the gas pedals to stick cause they were fatigued and had a cocktail. WTF people!

BTW - why is it always the same forum natzis telling people what to talk about around here?

 

[SpyderGirl]

i guess we will have to wait and see if it happens a few more times, then just maybe, it might be the time to talk about it. Or we can just sit around and bitch about who did or didn't get a 5k mile/Km pin, which is obviously more important and interesting topic around here. Now that is a serious real-world topic to bring to the attention of BRP.

Seriously what is the magic number of reported incidents incidents or mysterious deaths, before it becomes a serious topic? Do we just call them all driver fatigue, alcohol related, or excesive speed. We have to as we have no other choice, cause you dingbats want to sweep it under the rug.

I guess the Toyota owners were just driving too fast and trainded the gas pedals to stick cause they were fatigued and had a cocktail. WTF people!

BTW - why is it always the same forum natzis telling people what to talk about around here?

EXCUSE ME?? You can take that attitude elsewhere. This thread is about a person who DIED... not about mechanical failures, finger pointing, etc, etc...

Please help keep the threads clean and on-topic. There are plenty of other places to make these sorts of posts. :doorag:

 

[jsmiley]

EXCUSE ME?? You can take that attitude elsewhere. This thread is about a person who DIED... not about mechanical failures, finger pointing, etc, etc...

Please help keep the threads clean and on-topic. There are plenty of other places to make these sorts of posts. :doorag:

Yeah your right, why would we want to even remotely consider a design flaw which has almost killed several members of this site when someone flys off an onramp. That would be completely out of place and uncalled for seeing as someone died under circumstances that could be caused by the same flaw. That was just silly and insensitive of me. I wonder how the family feels about it.... Yes, Im sorry miss, but your son flew off the overpass cause he was most likley drinking, driving to fast or was just tired. It is not at all possible his equipment failed...

Further, why would we want to hear the voices of all members when a few can just try to dominate threads and tell others what to talk about and where to talk about it constantly.

Grow up people......

 

[VaughnCat]

EXCUSE ME?? You can take that attitude elsewhere. This thread is about a person who DIED... not about mechanical failures, finger pointing, etc, etc...

Please help keep the threads clean and on-topic. There are plenty of other places to make these sorts of posts. :doorag:

:agree:

 

[pitbull]

:agree:

EXCUSE ME?? You can take that attitude elsewhere. This thread is about a person who DIED... not about mechanical failures, finger pointing, etc, etc...

Please help keep the threads clean and on-topic. There are plenty of other places to make these sorts of posts. :doorag:

:agree::lecturef_smilie:

 

[RoadHammer]

Yeah your right, why would we want to even remotely consider a design flaw which has almost killed several members of this site when someone flys off an onramp. That would be completely out of place and uncalled for seeing as someone died under circumstances that could be caused by the same flaw. That was just silly and insensitive of me. I wonder how the family feels about it.... Yes, Im sorry miss, but your son flew off the overpass cause he was most likley drinking, driving to fast or was just tired. It is not at all possible his equipment failed...

Further, why would we want to hear the voices of all members when a few can just try to dominate threads and tell others what to talk about and where to talk about it constantly.

Grow up people......

I kind of agree with you smiley about equipment part. I wish ther was more info, i find it hard to figure out how it ended up the the way it did.

dont know about the helmet laws where he was,, but best wishes to the family.ray:

 

[SpyderWolf]

i guess we will have to wait and see if it happens a few more times, then just maybe, it might be the time to talk about it. Or we can just sit around and bitch about who did or didn't get a 5k mile/Km pin, which is obviously more important and interesting topic around here. Now that is a serious real-world topic to bring to the attention of BRP.

Seriously what is the magic number of reported incidents incidents or mysterious deaths, before it becomes a serious topic? Do we just call them all driver fatigue, alcohol related, or excesive speed. We have to as we have no other choice, cause you dingbats want to sweep it under the rug.

I guess the Toyota owners were just driving too fast and trainded the gas pedals to stick cause they were fatigued and had a cocktail. WTF people!

BTW - why is it always the same forum natzis telling people what to talk about around here?

Yeah your right, why would we want to even remotely consider a design flaw which has almost killed several members of this site when someone flys off an onramp. That would be completely out of place and uncalled for seeing as someone died under circumstances that could be caused by the same flaw. That was just silly and insensitive of me. I wonder how the family feels about it.... Yes, Im sorry miss, but your son flew off the overpass cause he was most likley drinking, driving to fast or was just tired. It is not at all possible his equipment failed...

Further, why would we want to hear the voices of all members when a few can just try to dominate threads and tell others what to talk about and where to talk about it constantly.

Grow up people......

It would be nice if you would take the time to get the facts straight before jumping to your own conclusions about mechanical failures when the results of the investigation have not been posted yet. This was a 2010 RS Spyder. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has reported a steering malfunction on a 2010 RS up to this date.

There are way too many factors involved in this for anyone to jump to conclusions about the cause. Another fact is there is nothing straight about the interchange he was ryding on in the first place. So, the statement in the article about the Spyder kept going straight while he was trying to turn is also speculation on the reporters part. The fact the accident occurred at 3:00 in the morning may have also played a part.

However, this is all heresay unless you were a witness to the actual events in question. From what I can tell, there were no witnesses or at least none that have come forward so far.

I also believe in freedom of speech, and you are free to say what you would like; however, I also take great offense at you referring to some members as forum Nazis. Fact is I served in the military in order for you to be able to keep that right, and am the furthest thing from a Nazi you will ever come across. However, there are plenty of threads to talk about a possible mechanical failure or you always have the option of starting another one.

Debating about the many possible causes of the crash without facts on this thread, will serve no purpose except to get the thread closed as it continues to get way out of hand. Personal attacks and flame wars serve no purpose here.

I also find it strange that no where in your "concerned" posting did you offer any condolences of any type. Just what is your intended purpose in this thread?

 

[SpyderWolf]

I kind of agree with you smiley about equipment part. I wish ther was more info, i find it hard to figure out how it ended up the the way it did.

dont know about the helmet laws where he was,, but best wishes to the family.ray:

SC is a helmet optional state. Since he was 27 he was of age to make his own decision, as anyone under 21 has to wear a helmet. The reports I have seen so far do not even state whether he was wearing a helmet or not when this happened. :dontknow:

 

[Roadkill]

+Or perhaps we can each wheel around on our personally designed rock wheels and when we collide, immediately summon Grog the lawyer.

As a percentage of the vehicular population, these things will be involved in crashes.

As a percentage of the crashers, some of us will either be in over our heads or otherwise impaired before we leave the roadway, especially at 2:25 a.m. on a bad turn.

Those are items I wish we didn't need to discuss but here we are.

Technology shouldn't slow its progress due to this event and an as-yet unearned implication of failure, nor should the brand suffer indignant accusations.

I truly feel for the family, and simply hope it was nothing more than an accident.

Ride on.
Roadkill

 

[Firefly]

It would be more appropriate for those interested in debating the possible DPS problems to start a new thread, but frankly this has been rehashed to death. Everyone knows there's a handful out here that are ready to burn BRP at the stake, and those that will defend them.

 

[superfly3]

It would be more appropriate for those interested in debating the possible DPS problems to start a new thread, but frankly this has been rehashed to death. Everyone knows there's a handful out here that are ready to burn BRP at the stake, and those that will defend them.

:agree:

 

[Desert Spyder]

SC is a helmet optional state. Since he was 27 he was of age to make his own decision, as anyone under 21 has to wear a helmet. The reports I have seen so far do not even state whether he was wearing a helmet or not when this happened. :dontknow:

He was NOT wearing a helmet. I read this in the Charlotte paper online.

 

[jsmiley]

It would be nice if you would take the time to get the facts straight before jumping to your own conclusions about mechanical failures when the results of the investigation have not been posted yet. This was a 2010 RS Spyder. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has reported a steering malfunction on a 2010 RS up to this date.

There are way too many factors involved in this for anyone to jump to conclusions about the cause. Another fact is there is nothing straight about the interchange he was ryding on in the first place. So, the statement in the article about the Spyder kept going straight while he was trying to turn is also speculation on the reporters part. The fact the accident occurred at 3:00 in the morning may have also played a part.

However, this is all heresay unless you were a witness to the actual events in question. From what I can tell, there were no witnesses or at least none that have come forward so far.

I also believe in freedom of speech, and you are free to say what you would like; however, I also take great offense at you referring to some members as forum Nazis. Fact is I served in the military in order for you to be able to keep that right, and am the furthest thing from a Nazi you will ever come across. However, there are plenty of threads to talk about a possible mechanical failure or you always have the option of starting another one.

Debating about the many possible causes of the crash without facts on this thread, will serve no purpose except to get the thread closed as it continues to get way out of hand. Personal attacks and flame wars serve no purpose here.

I also find it strange that no where in your "concerned" posting did you offer any condolences of any type. Just what is your intended purpose in this thread?

Before I even read the post from Way2fast and the subsequent "take it to another thread rhetoric" response, I thought of the DPS issue and said a prayer for the ryder.

Not to be insensitive, but he is gone and there are other ryders alive with steering issues, some which will not realize it until it is too late. This could be a case of that very scenario.

What I am saying in my posts, to boil it down for ya -

- Why do so many automatically jump to ryder fault and simultaneously dismiss the ongoing issues? When as you stated nothing is known yet. I concur, but am not willing to ignore the obvious as others do.

- What gives people the right to tell others that they should not discuss DPS in a thread when somone runs off a road? This just baffles me. We should all take note of this and be cautious.

 

[SpyderWolf]

He was NOT wearing a helmet. I read this in the Charlotte paper online.

Thanks for that added information. I have not found an article yet that states any more details.

Here is another vague one though: http://www.live5news.com/Global/story.asp?S=12491553

Would you happen to have a link to the Charlotte article?

 

[RoadHammer]

I do think it would be in the best interest of the family to have the remains of the bike in ther possession instead of brp's..

an independent body might be able to determine the state of the bike in the last few moments if the "buds" is still accessible.