spyder is at Dynojet for power commander testing

[Eddie]

is your trunk full? and may be stuff in there pushing against the hood?
if that happens key will not turn. press down on the hood than turn the key while you push down on it.

Mine does that all the time and the above remedy does work. Man you would be surprised what will fit in the trunk :yikes:

 

[MySpyder]

hey man thank you i had to take off both panels but still i got it to open.
i just put the key in and kind of help it open by tugging on it a little thankyou.

 

[NancysToy]

hey man thank you i had to take off both panels but still i got it to open.
i just put the key in and kind of help it open by tugging on it a little thankyou.

Lubricate the latch and pin with a tiny bit of silicone grease or white lithium grease. Put a couple of drops of oil where they will flow between the latch plates. It would probably pay to lubricate the cable, too, but that is a much more difficult job. If lubrication doesn't do the job, and the trunk wasn't overfilled, you may have to adjust the latch pin a bit.

 

[Recluse]

LOL! I knew it was only a matter of time! Spyders doing wheelies! Hell, even the Mrs got a good laugh out of that! If the moon and stars are alingned just right then anything is possable. But what it's worth, I guess it will answer the question at gas stations " yeah, but does it do wheelies"! :roflblack: aka, keep us informed :2thumbs:

 

[SpyderWolf]

I burned my back tire a good bit at Myrtle Beach, but still couldn't get the tires off the ground. However, according to your directions I was doing it wrong. pps: On the way home, my wife pulled up next to me and started acting like she wanted to race. I got the jump on her as she started rolling slowly; however, she told me when we got home that her front end got a tiny bit off the ground as well. I am thinking the extra weight of the luggage on the back of her SE5 helped here. Well, at least that is what I want to believe.

Any word from Dynojet on the O2 sensor problem? I have not heard anything from Two Bros. about a shipping date on the JB Pro yet, but am hoping to hear something very soon.

 

[aka1004]

I burned my back tire a good bit at Myrtle Beach, but still couldn't get the tires off the ground. However, according to your directions I was doing it wrong. pps: On the way home, my wife pulled up next to me and started acting like she wanted to race. I got the jump on her as she started rolling slowly; however, she told me when we got home that her front end got a tiny bit off the ground as well. I am thinking the extra weight of the luggage on the back of her SE5 helped here. Well, at least that is what I want to believe.

Any word from Dynojet on the O2 sensor problem? I have not heard anything from Two Bros. about a shipping date on the JB Pro yet, but am hoping to hear something very soon.

i am going back to dynojet tomorrow. he said he had another idea so we shall see. the one i have now cuts in and out. spyder would run good for awhile than o2 sensor would go out and run in stock mode, very lean and terrible than o2 sensor kicks in again and runs well again. i am kinda leaning toward bad sensor as that will make ecu lean out the spyder if o2 senser is sending bad info to ecu. :dontknow:

 

[SpyderWolf]

i am going back to dynojet tomorrow. he said he had another idea so we shall see. the one i have now cuts in and out. spyder would run good for awhile than o2 sensor would go out and run in stock mode, very lean and terrible than o2 sensor kicks in again and runs well again. i am kinda leaning toward bad sensor as that will make ecu lean out the spyder if o2 senser is sending bad info to ecu. :dontknow:

Best of luck, and thanks for keeping us all posted on the progress as well.

 

[aka1004]

Autotune is out, wideband2 is in.
Wideband 2 does what autotune does plus it let's me do away with o2 sensor that's been giving me problems and let's me change afr inside the closed loop right on the LCD. Pc still handles outside closed loop same as it did with autotune with pre-set target afr. I never liked that serperate o2 sensor deal so I asked why it was done that and answer was the cost. It requires LCD and wideband 2 as in 1000 dollar investment and not everyone will be willing to spend that much.

They are still working on o2 sensor thou.
I will post later after I get some ryde in.

 

[jedd]

Autotune is out, wideband2 is in.
Wideband 2 does what autotune does plus it let's me do away with o2 sensor that's been giving me problems and let's me change afr inside the closed loop right on the LCD. Pc still handles outside closed loop same as it did with autotune with pre-set target afr. I never liked that serperate o2 sensor deal so I asked why it was done that and answer was the cost. It requires LCD and wideband 2 as in 1000 dollar investment and not everyone will be willing to spend that much.

They are still working on o2 sensor thou.
I will post later after I get some ryde in.

Thanks again I need to get more versed in what you're doing there, this wideband you speak of is this still all PC equipment?

Jim:thumbup:

 

[SpyderWolf]

Very interesting, and I am sure you are most happy that they are giving you the equipment for free for being a test pilot. :thumbup: I don't think I would want to spend $1,000 on a setup like this either, as slowly but surely you will start to approach the price of a turbo unit instead.

 

[aka1004]

I am begining to think it's my spyder causing this cycle of lean/rich. My spyder always had it's good days and bad days.
Anyway, it ran really good yesterday after they installed wideband 2. Spyder was popping at decel but after setting closed loop little bit richer, it ran better than ever before. I got to where I was going and restarted after 6 hours and it was running very lean again. Dynojet did tell me warm up will be longer for wb2 than autotune so I let it idle but it never ran like before.

I rode about 300 miles today and it seems to have settle down as it was running pretty consistent without that leaning condition but did not run as quite good as the first time but I don't think it's the pc or wb2 but my spyder just having a bad day.

I cleared all the adjustment On fuel map that autotune made to see if wb2 was making adjustment and it did. Wb2 is autotune plus adjustable afr for the closed loop(under 6000 rpm and 40% throttle) and better sensor. Autotune has the older sensor. I am Not sure how much better but that's what dynojet is telling me.

One drawback of wb2 is the cost as you have to have LCD to adjust afr in closed loop. But if you Were thinking about pc,autotune with LCD anyway, cost will be about the same. If just get the power commander, closed loop still is adjustable but it's done at the little box that's plugged into factory o2 sensor harness.

 

[aka1004]

Thanks again I need to get more versed in what you're doing there, this wideband you speak of is this still all PC equipment?

Jim:thumbup:

Yes it is made by dynojet.

 

[SpyderWolf]

Thanks for the update on how things are going with your new set up.

I have to admit that I am starting to waffle on the idea of the Juice Box Pro a little bit. I found a couple of replacement stock air filters for less than $10 a piece and put those in our Spyders. My wife doesn't want the extra performance, so hers will stay in with the Hindle as the ECU can handle that alright. Perhaps I am just getting cold feet, since I placed the order on April 11 and still have not heard anything from Two Bros. I am starting to wonder if I might be better off just leaving mine alone as well. :dontknow:

 

[aka1004]

It seems like user error was causing the problem spyder running irregularpps: dynojet did warned me that spyders ecu will not like it if I run too rich all the time in closed loop but i kept turning it richer because it was running better. I turned the afr just a tad and problem is gone spyder is running greathyea:

I had closed loop afr at 13.5 to start and all the way down to 13.2 and spyder started acting up but now it's at 13.35 and running really good. It's Probably richer than dynojet like to see but hopely spyders ecu would be ok with that but no problem so far since yesterday.

 

[SpyderWolf]

Thanks for keeping us posted on the progress.

I cancelled my order for the Juice Box Pro. Went ahead and removed the K&N filter and just put a stock one back in the air box for now. I am going to sit it out for a while and see where all of these products go. I guess I kind of got cold feet about being an early adopter of the JB Pro.

Of course, your situation is totally different and I am glad you are getting to experience working with DynoJet to get things right on your Spyder. :thumbup:

 

[jedd]

It seems like user error was causing the problem spyder running irregularpps: dynojet did warned me that spyders ecu will not like it if I run too rich all the time in closed loop but i kept turning it richer because it was running better. I turned the afr just a tad and problem is gone spyder is running greathyea:

I had closed loop afr at 13.5 to start and all the way down to 13.2 and spyder started acting up but now it's at 13.35 and running really good. It's Probably richer than dynojet like to see but hopely spyders ecu would be ok with that but no problem so far since yesterday.

OK Bro is your set-up available to us yet if so can you list us what we need?
I'd order if its ready

Jim:thumbup:

 

[bone crusher]

Thanks for keeping us posted on the progress.

I cancelled my order for the Juice Box Pro. Went ahead and removed the K&N filter and just put a stock one back in the air box for now. I am going to sit it out for a while and see where all of these products go. I guess I kind of got cold feet about being an early adopter of the JB Pro.

Of course, your situation is totally different and I am glad you are getting to experience working with DynoJet to get things right on your Spyder. :thumbup:

Why not just get the juice box (not the pro version)...it's fun to tweak and it does make a pretty big difference in performance...

 

[SpyderWolf]

Why not just get the juice box (not the pro version)...it's fun to tweak and it does make a pretty big difference in performance...

I was under the impression the Pro version is going to give much better tweaking options. I could get a regular one for now, but I think the delay in shipping has made me slow down a little on my mods for now. I ordered the Pro on April 11, and Two Bros. still did not have a known shipping date when I called them last Friday.

I am not done playing with mine, just slowing down a little for now.

 

[aka1004]

it is not ready for sale yet. they are still working on it.
yes wideband2 and power commander is working great for me but this is not what dynojet is trying to market, because of the cost. of course it is better than just pc by itself but 1000 dollar fuel management system will not sit well with most. o2 sensor they are having trouble with worked fine in lab condition but gave me problem in r/l condition but they have more spyder to work with now so, hopely they will work it out soon.

this is just MY opinion, i think it will be worth it to wait for power commander or juicebox pro if you are looking for more zip out of your spyder. i think juicebox pro will have a lot of power commander function. may be not the adjustment by the throttle position or ability to use lcd or wideband2/autotune.

 

[Firefly]

Thanks for the updates. So they're using your stock O2 sensor for it to read and adjust things-- or do they have their own sensors?

I'm becoming less thrilled with the JB every day.... had stumble when passing again today...JB cutting out in between modes--- getting it confused again.

I'm considering going back to just running higher fuel pressure and selling the JB. Some things are just better done mechanically than electronically.