Me and a group was riding thursday evening and the guy behind me on a VTX 1300 layed his bike down and ran into me at 25 mph totaled his bike and broke my liscense plate holder he hit me straight in the back of the bike and very little damage was doe to the spyder if i was on a different bike it would have been a whole different story. he shattered his wrist and ended up getting a plate in it. but is home now.