K&N Air Filter Install - Pics Inside

[SpyderWolf]

I have had great service with K&N filters on my other vehicles, so when they finally made an air filter for the Spyder I decided to give it a try. I ordered 2 of them, one for each Spyder, and got them shipped to the house for a total of $107. This was my first time for messing with the airbox at all.

First step, the tupperware had to come off:

The next step was to open the airbox. I will tell you right now, that if it was not for reading this forum and knowing what to expect I probably would have been calling the dealer at this point. The amount of oil was still a little more than I expected.

This is the right side of the airbox:

This is the front of the airbox:

This is what the air filter looked like that was installed:

This is what the inside of the airbox looked like after removing the filter (notice the leaf):

I was somewhat surprised to find the stock filter installed was a Purolator, as I was expecting some no name filter to be in there:

 

[SpyderWolf]

Then it was time to put in the new K&N filter.

Here is what the box looks like:

This is the top side of the filter:

This is the bottom side of the filter:

This is what it looks like installed:

At that point it was time to button the Spyder back up.

It wasn't too bad of a job for the first time. On my Spyder, which was the first one I did it took about 40 minutes. When I did my wife's Spyder I was able to get it done in about 25 minutes. This included cleaning up the oil in the process.

 

[3tracs]

Great pictures, thanks for sharing! I'll have my new K&N in a few days. :thumbup:

 

[BumbleBee]

Do you have the link from where you ordered from?

Thanks :2thumbs:

 

[fastfraser]

ESI Green filters, washable,reuseable and a sponser of this site.:2thumbs:

 

[BumbleBee]

ESI Green filters, washable,reuseable and a sponser of this site.:2thumbs:

I just seen them too :2thumbs:

 

[Magic Man]

Nether the K&N or GREEN filter fit the RT as it is different.

MM

 

[BumbleBee]

Nether the K&N or GREEN filter fit the RT as it is different.

MM

Thanks for letting us know.

Be waiting for yours to come out :2thumbs:

 

[Spyder man]

K&N for spyder

Here is the site for a K&N

http://store.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=CM-9908

 

[groundeffect]

SpyderWolf: This is a great post, thanks for sharing the pictures and the process! I will spend some time on my stock filter before upgrading, but that K & N filter is on my list for the future.

cheers and thanks!

 

[the nicko]

thanks sharing the pictures and the process!


:2thumbs::2thumbs::2thumbs::2thumbs::2thumbs:

 

[Sarge707]

Interesting Comparison:

Stock Filter- $32
K & N Filter- $54
ESI Filter- $68
Evoluzione- $70

Such Decisions?:dontknow:

:yes:

 

[Magic Man]

QUOTE from Sarge707 Interesting Comparison:

Here's my MHO

Stock Filter- $32 One time use, and oil on it kills it.

K & N Filter- $54 Seems like a nice product, But does anybody there really know a "Spyder" from an any other bug when you have questions or problems? LOL :roflblack:

ESI GREEN Filter- $68 Great guys , Spyderlover site sponsor! They know Spyders as good as anybody and provide outstanding tech support! :clap:

Evoluzione- $70 It has too few, and too deep of a plete design as informed to us by design team at GREEN for max flow? Who really manufacturers it, and what is the warranty? Also Evo had chance to sponsor Spyderlovers forum and would not. :yikes:


.... and the winner is ESI! LOL:yes::roflblack::roflblack:

No really, any of these except the stock unit should work well in your Spyder, and give you a bit more performance! :2thumbs:

I'm just a bit biased. Who would have thought? LOL :roflblack: :thumbup:

MM

 

[RShrimp]

http://duramax-diesel.com/spicer/index.htm

Ya might want to read this before getting any cotton based filter.

Also here is a quote from a mining company study.


http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-160148.html#

I was responsible for evaluating re-usable air filters for a major construction/mining company that had hundreds of vehicles ranging from large earthmovers to pick-up and salesmen's cars. This study was embarked upon due to the fact that we were spending upwards of $30,000 a MONTH on paper air filters. Using them one time then throwing them away.. I initiated the study in that I was convinced that a K&N type filter or oiled foam would save us many dollars per year in filter savings, man hour savings, and of course engines as these would filter dirt better than paper. (yes, I had read the K&N ads and was a believer)

Representative test units were chosen to give us a broad spectrum from cars right through large front end loaders. With each unit we had a long history of oil analysis records so that changes would be trackable.

Unfortunately, for me, every single unit having alternative re-usable air cleaners showed an immediate large jump in silicon (dirt) levels with corresponding major increases in wear metals. In one extreme case, a unit with a primary and secondary air cleaner, the secondary (small paper element) clogged before even one day's test run could be completed. This particular unit had a Cummins V-12 that had paper/paper one bank and K&N/paper on the other bank; two completely independent induction systems. The conditions were EXACTLY duplicated for each bank yet the K&N allowed so much dirt to pass through that the small filter became clogged before lunch. The same outcome occurred with oiled foams on this unit.

We discontinued the tests on the large pieces almost immediately but continued with service trucks foremen's vehicles, and my own company car. Analysis results continued showing markedly increased wear rates for all the vehicles, mine included. Test concluded, switched back to paper/glass and all vehicles showed reduction back to near original levels of both wear metals and dirt. I continued with the K&N on my company car out of stubbornness and at 85,000 miles the Chevy 305 V-8 wheezed its last breath. The top end was sanded badly; bottom end was just fine. End of test.

I must stress that EVERYONE involved in this test was hoping that alternative filters would work as everyone was sick about pulling out a perfectly good $85 air cleaner and throwing 4 of them away each week per machine...

So, I strongly suggest that depending upon an individual's long term plan for their vehicles they simply run an oil at least once to see that the K&N or whatever alternative air filter is indeed working IN THAT APPLICATION... It depends on a person's priorities. If you want performance then indeed the K&N is the way to go but at what cost???

And no, I do not work for a paper or glass air filter manufacturing company nor do I have any affiliation with anything directly or indirectly that could benefit George Morrison as a result..

 

[Sarge707]

http://duramax-diesel.com/spicer/index.htm

Ya might want to read this before getting any cotton based filter.

Also here is a quote from a mining company study.




I was responsible for evaluating re-usable air filters for a major construction/mining company that had hundreds of vehicles ranging from large earthmovers to pick-up and salesmen's cars. This study was embarked upon due to the fact that we were spending upwards of $30,000 a MONTH on paper air filters. Using them one time then throwing them away.. I initiated the study in that I was convinced that a K&N type filter or oiled foam would save us many dollars per year in filter savings, man hour savings, and of course engines as these would filter dirt better than paper. (yes, I had read the K&N ads and was a believer)

Representative test units were chosen to give us a broad spectrum from cars right through large front end loaders. With each unit we had a long history of oil analysis records so that changes would be trackable.

Unfortunately, for me, every single unit having alternative re-usable air cleaners showed an immediate large jump in silicon (dirt) levels with corresponding major increases in wear metals. In one extreme case, a unit with a primary and secondary air cleaner, the secondary (small paper element) clogged before even one day's test run could be completed. This particular unit had a Cummins V-12 that had paper/paper one bank and K&N/paper on the other bank; two completely independent induction systems. The conditions were EXACTLY duplicated for each bank yet the K&N allowed so much dirt to pass through that the small filter became clogged before lunch. The same outcome occurred with oiled foams on this unit.

We discontinued the tests on the large pieces almost immediately but continued with service trucks foremen's vehicles, and my own company car. Analysis results continued showing markedly increased wear rates for all the vehicles, mine included. Test concluded, switched back to paper/glass and all vehicles showed reduction back to near original levels of both wear metals and dirt. I continued with the K&N on my company car out of stubbornness and at 85,000 miles the Chevy 305 V-8 wheezed its last breath. The top end was sanded badly; bottom end was just fine. End of test.

I must stress that EVERYONE involved in this test was hoping that alternative filters would work as everyone was sick about pulling out a perfectly good $85 air cleaner and throwing 4 of them away each week per machine...

So, I strongly suggest that depending upon an individual's long term plan for their vehicles they simply run an oil at least once to see that the K&N or whatever alternative air filter is indeed working IN THAT APPLICATION... It depends on a person's priorities. If you want performance then indeed the K&N is the way to go but at what cost???

And no, I do not work for a paper or glass air filter manufacturing company nor do I have any affiliation with anything directly or indirectly that could benefit George Morrison as a result..

Very Interesting Charts and Graphs!!
By these tests it would appear the Stock Purolator May be the better choice for me personally! Never cared for K & N jet ski filters.:gaah:
Would be interesting to see a test between stock(Purolator), K & N, ESI and Evol but thats just not an economical test for the participants?:shemademe_smilie:

 

[ozzie]

I had the ESI GREEN Filter. It was a great improvement over the stock. But it still doesn’t stop the oil from getting into the air box. Although it doesn’t damage the filter it was a headache to clean all the oil that drips out. So I decided to go with the kewl metal air filter kit that uses a k&n filter. Works great and stops the oil from dripping all over the bike. http://www.kewlmetalstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=5&products_id=401

 

[SpyderWolf]

Interesting articles and positions overall. I have never had any noticeable trouble with K&N, and ran a cold air intake on my Expedition that worked well also. I had thought about the green filter, and the evo, as they have been available for a while; however, I decided that I would give the new K&N a try this go around. Hopefully I will not run into any problems at all with it.

The inner part of the air box, under where the filter sits was dry; however, it also had sand and the leaf that got in there somehow.

I had also thought about getting the Kewl Metal kit, but did not want to change out the air box at this time. I remember doing that on my 1986 GSX-R 750 and the improvement wasn't quite worth the hassle I had with no longer being able to ride in the rain. I also did not want to "have" to buy a juice box, and am hoping the Spyder will run fine with this set up.

 

[Sarge707]

Interesting articles and positions overall. I have never had any noticeable trouble with K&N, and ran a cold air intake on my Expedition that worked well also. I had thought about the green filter, and the evo, as they have been available for a while; however, I decided that I would give the new K&N a try this go around. Hopefully I will not run into any problems at all with it.

The inner part of the air box, under where the filter sits was dry; however, it also had sand and the leaf that got in there somehow.

I had also thought about getting the Kewl Metal kit, but did not want to change out the air box at this time. I remember doing that on my 1986 GSX-R 750 and the improvement wasn't quite worth the hassle I had with no longer being able to ride in the rain. I also did not want to "have" to buy a juice box, and am hoping the Spyder will run fine with this set up.

I,m sure someone will correct me if I,m wrong BUT- The sand and leaf are where the air intakes enter and BEFORE the filter so I can see how they got there in normal riding.
My 09 SE5 airbox is nowhere near as Oily as yours? Was or is your oil level toooo high? Seems quite saturated in the photos!:dontknow:

 

[1VENOM]

:lecturef_smilie:IMHO I don't believe any of us are going to run up and down any mines, soon with our spyder's. I've worked around construction and seen mines before. They have at least 10x the dust you would every come in contact on your spyder. Now a dirt bike would be a different subject. I have run a K&N filter in my Ford F-150 for the past 11yrs. I use the cleaning kit and the oil the filter calls for and have never found leafs or dirt in my air box. Like I said IMHO any filter is only as good as the person doing the maintenance. Just pay attention to details and don't assume, read and do your maintenance by the book.:lecturef_smilie:

 

[RShrimp]

I agree that these tests were done in extreme conditions. On the other end of the scale, boat motors dont even have air cleaners (from the factory)

I never said dont use it , it will dust your motor. My point was ...what's the point?
If your on the east coast with high humidity to keep the dust down a marginal air cleaner is probably fine.

I would not run one in the desert though.
But again, why would you remove a perfectly good one and replace it with a marginal one???

people do it because they believe the hype. I am not blaming anyone for believing it. My goodness there is sooo much hype out there. Heck, I have even bought a couple of them. I just don't anymore.