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Thoughts on my first SS1000 with the Spyder

jdgretz

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Thursday morning I headed off from Los Angeles to have dinner at Organ Stop Pizza in Mesa, Arizona and then continue up to Williams, Arizona and back for an SS1000. I needed to know if I was again up to the task (I've been off motorcycles since the end of 2023 due to medical issues - now thankfully pretty much resolved) and to see how the Spyder works for me doing long distance runs.

Mixed results and some observations.

First, mission complete. A total of 1045 miles in under 24-hours. Yea! So yes, I can still do this and the bike can do it.

The highway speeds in California are 70, and in Arizona 75. Most folks are running a bit faster than this. While I can neither confirm nor deny cruising speeds of 80 MPH or above, I can say that my average moving speed was 65 MPH over the run. I averaged 29.737 miles/gallon in fuel use, using 35.141 gallons of gas. I don't like cruising over 80 as mileage on any bike I've owned goes down rapidly over that.

Initially the seat was a mite uncomfortable. Under my right thigh was the biggest discomfort. Once I had been going for six or eight hours it got comfortable until the last 50 miles or so, then the same pressure point let me know it was again not happy. Not sure what to do about this. I'm thinking of trying the Air Flow before spending big bucks on a full custom seat. Need to find someone who has an RT with the Comfort seat to try.

I hate the short legs of this bike. A touring motorcycle should have at least a real 200 mile range at highway speeds. The most range I got was 176 miles and it was on fumes when I rolled into the gas station, putting 6.025 gallons in the tank. The rage indicator went to - - at 20 miles remaining, and I had about 5 miles to the next gas station. While I did have one leg with 34 MPG, it was slightly downhill most of that 160 miles. On flat or varying terrain, it was mostly below 30 MPG with a low of 27.7 MPG. Figure 5.5 gallons of gas, that is only 148.5 miles. Really unacceptable for a touring motorcycle. My Norge runs about 225 before looking for gas, my old C10 Kawasaki was about 215, and my Goldwing 210 (if I count the aux tank, then 325 before I started looking for gas). I had range anxiety on more than one occasion. I need to adjust my planning to take this into account, AND get the aux fuel tank figured out. An additional 5 gallons of gas would make me feel a lot better on these rides. Also, seven fuel stops when that should have been only 4 or 5 adds time to the ride. On the SS1000, it's not a big deal, but on more challenging rides, where time off the bike is a killer, this could become an issue.

I added a back rest pad in addition to the Show Chrome seat back to move the support further forward than the seat back allows. That helped a lot.

I also recently added highway pegs that came in very handy on the ride. Being able to stretch my legs is always a good thing.

I use a Garmin Zumo 665 for GPS navigation, XM radio, and MP3 listening; and a SPOT Gen3 for ride tracking.

Bottom line? The Spyder worked flawlessly. I was, for the most part, comfortable, and the ride itself (other than the range issue) was a non-event. Just the way I like them. Oh, and the pizza was OK - thin crust, which is not my favorite, but the music and seeing that pipe organ was worth it. Their lemonade and tea are freshly made each day and were excellent. Recommended.

Picked up a couple of Tour of Honor bonus locations as well.

jdg
 
Speed can not only kill a person, it is very hard on mileage as you noted. Riding that fast for 24 hours does not seem like a thing a lot of people would want to do. Just saying! Reasonable cruising on a Spyder with the 1330 ACE motor should be around 34 mpg.
 
Speed can not only kill a person, it is very hard on mileage as you noted. Riding that fast for 24 hours does not seem like a thing a lot of people would want to do. Just saying! Reasonable cruising on a Spyder with the 1330 ACE motor should be around 34 mpg.

My average mileage so far is 29.6 and my highest 33.7. Looking at all the Spyder RTs with the SE6 transmission on Fuelly, the median appears to be between 32 and 37 MPG. Of course, "reasonable" cruising is open to interpretation. Here in SoCal, if you're on the freeway and not driving 70+, you'd better be in the slow lanes (not counting downtown LA/SF/SD).

Yes, us Iron Butt folks are a little different, but we enjoy our passion (perversion?).

jdg
 
You're in California, so do a ride in to Shasta Lake to see Russell DayLong. I need to do the 1,500 miles in 24 hrs on Spyder. I did 2 x 1,000 miles in 24 hrs on my 2 wheeler. 1,500 miles is a lot harder to achieve!
 
I had pressure point problems with my '24 S2S with the comfort seat. I solved it with a waffle gel foam pad that overlapped the seat width slightly. I bought mine years ago at Walmart which no longer sells them. However if you were to purchase a similar product from Amazon Gel Seat Cushion making sure it was wider than your seat at the widest part it would probably work. You don't want one too thick, 1" to 1 1/2" inch thick would do. I believe that not just the extra thickness helps but being wider causes the effective width of your seat to increase and relieve the pressure points at the edge of the seat. You may have to cut one down to shape. Mine follows the form of the seat being narrower at the front than the back. With it I can easily ride 2 to 2 1/2 hours no problem, without it I can only manage an hour before I have to stop.

This is the cushion that I have. The only place that I have found that sells it is Canadian Tire. Unfortunately they do not ship. Canadian Tire Seat Cushion
 
I had similar concerns about finding gas on my 48-state tour in 27 days. I have no problem with the S2S MPG. The machine is heavy and has lots of wind drag. (My BIG pickup truck gets 8 MPG.) Numerous gas stops prevent me from getting tunnel vision and entering an automaton-like state. A larger fuel capacity would make 500-plus-mile days much easier.

The important issue is - we are not perched on our couch watching a boob tube. We are moving, seeing, and interacting with others. Doing beats "wanting" or "wishing I'd done that."

Riding is therapeutic. 🤓
 
I had similar concerns about finding gas on my 48-state tour in 27 days. I have no problem with the S2S MPG. The machine is heavy and has lots of wind drag. (My BIG pickup truck gets 8 MPG.) Numerous gas stops prevent me from getting tunnel vision and entering an automaton-like state. A larger fuel capacity would make 500-plus-mile days much easier.

The important issue is - we are not perched on our couch watching a boob tube. We are moving, seeing, and interacting with others. Doing beats "wanting" or "wishing I'd done that."

Riding is therapeutic. 🤓
How much does a person really see going 80MPH.
 
80-85 MPH is a nice crusing speed on the Spyder way out in the wide open spaces of Nevada, Utah and the like out west. Much higher on my 1600 BMW...
 
How much does a person really see going 80MPH.
There's a difference between being on the clock to accomplish a goal and flower sniffing. When I'm flower sniffing I see a lot and spend time meeting people. On my vacation cross country trips vs Iron Butt challenges, I run on back roads, numbered highways, and generally off the beaten track. Gas is less of an issue, but still is one.

After the Death Valley get together with the Goldwing group one year, I headed to Ely, Nevada. Leaving Beaty, you pass a sign saying next gas 136 miles. I got within 35 miles of Ely when it started snowing to the point where it was iffy if I was going to make it. With 300 mile range, I could turn around and make it back to Beaty with no problem. If I was on the Spyder, I would have had two choices - 1) continue and hope it didn't get worse or 2) call AAA for gas or a tow and wait in the snow for several hours.

I'll say it again, a Touring motorcycle should have at least a 200 mile range at highway speeds. I will find a way to mount an aux fuel tank (not gravity fed that does not take up the passenger seat) to give me the range my riding profile needs and the added margin of safety and comfort I like.

jdg
 
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