Recommend any Rear shock replacements other than the $$$ Elka's??

[CrazyCooter]

Springs simply hold the machine up to the required ride height. Once this is done, additional spring rate can create a harsh ride. While this may improve handling, it does so with a downside.

The other way to control unwanted suspension movement is with improved hydraulic valving inside the body of the shock. A heavier spring doesn't cost any more than a lighter spring. So, the less expensive way to control suspension movement is a heavier spring. But the better ride approach to controlling unwanted suspension movement is a better, and more expensive, valving design.

JRi knows what they are doing. We told them we wanted both great handling and a very comfortable ride. I suggest you try the shocks before you pass judgement on the spring rate. Or ask those who are running a set of our shocks.

Shock performance is the sum of it's components. With a years worth of actual road testing. I think we got it right.

We are currently working on a rear shock. Like the fronts. We don't want to rush the process.


We totally agree. And that's why we set about to build a shock that we think does both. Because the average rider doesn't understand compression and rebound, or the bias that these 2 settings need to work properly. So we asked JRi if they could incorporate both settings, with the proper bias, into one single adjustment. And they did.

So, now these two tunable settings are combined into one, clicking knob, easily accessible, without tools. The rider can experiment, if they like, to fine tune their suspension. Or, they can set it and forget it. But either way, that option is available. And you don't have to be a suspension guru to get it the way you want it.

As a shock/suspension tuner I'm very aware of how the components work together. Everyone has their own theory and idea of what is best.

I most do Jeeps/Trucks but dabble in motos. The stuff generally coming from most of the manufacturers is horrible out of the box, but the buyers don't really know how "good" it can be. They buy the brand they see the big baller You Tube influencers running, slam a bunch of weight on the rig mounted up high and wonder why it wobbles and bottoms with $5-15K spend on suspension kits?

I wasn't knocking JRI or you at all, I just don't necessarily subscribe to the long light spring with more preload theory in my builds. IF there was a matching rear shock available at the time I might have done more research and gone that way if convinced. In my defense, I did use the term "Class act" which by definition is generally a very good thing?

All that said, I can understand that the lighter spring rate/higher preload can achieve the correct ride height and desired ride frequency as a heavier rate/less preload without the excessive rise in rate/frequency during cornering, dive, or bump and that would better compliment your "Ultimate" bar's higher rate. If I had my choice knowing what I know today... I might have installed your lighter bar, since I'm currently running a 7.2/403 spring now, soon to be dropped to a 350 for a little more compliance over bumpy back roads.

I really appreciate and respect your investment into this limited market so that these machines can perform at their best! I know first hand what it takes to just develop shock tuning and packages that work well together for existing products I just source... You have gone next level with manufacturing your own stuff!

 

[CloverHillCrawler]

Threads like these make me appreciate my old Jet ski more and more, no suspension to worry about, just slap on an ocean pro ride plate and skat trak variable pitched impeller and it was good to go. Could I do tricks with it... no, but could I cut a fast tight corner, yet not slide and hit something... oh hell yes!

 

[BajaRon]

As a shock/suspension tuner I'm very aware of how the components work together. Everyone has their own theory and idea of what is best.

I most do Jeeps/Trucks but dabble in motos. The stuff generally coming from most of the manufacturers is horrible out of the box, but the buyers don't really know how "good" it can be. They buy the brand they see the big baller You Tube influencers running, slam a bunch of weight on the rig mounted up high and wonder why it wobbles and bottoms with $5-15K spend on suspension kits?

I wasn't knocking JRI or you at all, I just don't necessarily subscribe to the long light spring with more preload theory in my builds. IF there was a matching rear shock available at the time I might have done more research and gone that way if convinced. In my defense, I did use the term "Class act" which by definition is generally a very good thing?

All that said I can understand that the lighter spring rate/higher preload can achieve the correct ride height and desired ride frequency as a heavier rate/less preload without the excessive rise in rate/frequency during cornering, dive, or bump and that would better compliment your "Ultimate" bar's higher rate. If I had my choice knowing what I know today......I might have installed your lighter bar since I'm currently running a 7.2/403 spring now, soon to be dropped to a 350 for a little more compliance over bumpy back roads.

I really appreciate and respect your investment into this limited market so that these machines can perform at their best! I know first hand what it takes to just develop shock tuning and packages that work well together for existing products I just source......You have gone next level with manufacturing your own stuff!

I appreciate your input. Whenever you produce a product, you have to choose a direction. Just giving the reasons we went the way we did. There is no perfect anything. Everything is a tradeoff.

We all do what we think is best. It's what makes the world go around.