Potential Buyer - Time to Stay Clear of a Spyder

[BajaRon]

I am going to call the BRP Office and see how they are handling the issues that are rising. I am still trying to keep an open mind so I will see if they back their products and how they are handling the situations.
I left the forum for about a week to see if it was a one time thing but these concerns keep coming in.
I will also talk to my local dealer and see what is up, afterall they are the ones who told me to come here and find out how people are liking the Spyder.
Hey before I spend the money just want to know what is going on. I respect those who have responded. It is good to hear when owners are enjoying the Spyder with no problems. As I said the one I am looking at just had the recall and even the guy who is selling it to me is concerned that he might be selling a bad machine. So he is checking with his dealer first as well.
I apprecuate the input be it good or bad it helps find the soultion.

If the Spyder was really as bad as all this I would get rid of mine.

As I stated in another post, whatever you are driving/riding right now has had fires, recalls, dissatisfied owners, bad service, you name it. But how many people spend any time at all worrying about it? Very few.

That is because most people don't spend time reading posts in a forum focused on problems and issues. Instead, they just ride happy because they aren't having problems.

I am facinated by the number of people that have had no problems at all with their Spyder but have been convinced it is just a matter of time. I don't think the facts bear this out.

The recent update has really put a cloud over some people. My feeling is it is nothing more than an over active purge valve causing at least the lion's share of the problem. This is easily corrected. Sure, we shouldn't have to make the correction but still, as little effort as is required it's not a huge deal.

If I needed another Spyder right now I'd probably look for one that someone was having problems with. I'd get a great deal and with a small amount of work it would probably run like a top for a long time.

Look at it this way. If someone posts they have an issue there are 100 or more posts discussing it. Then someone starts another thread in a slightly different vein and the same 100 people post again.

If someone posts they had a great ride on their Spyder it may get a few congrats and that's it.

I'm not saying this is good or bad, just the way it is.

 

[truck 85]

I appreciate the input. I am going to call the manufacturer and see what they say. If they repsend positively and really back there product then I am going to look at it again.
Like I said daelign with repairs is no issue dealing with fires - wow not a good thing. I am surprised that the manufacturer has not taken a more aggressive approach to fix this. You know that if a car company had vehicles catching firer they would be off the road immediately.
So I will keep a positive outlook that it will be fixed and return to purchase soemday.
Good to hear that there are some doing well
I was going to buy a 2008 SE5 with low milage on it and the recall had just been done on it so now with the news of the recall causing potential problems I think sitting back and waiting to see is the best option. If these are good machines there will be plenty to buy in the future.

dose any one rember tha pinto and how long it took ford to deal with that it was way more than 4 or 5 cars over a couple of months

 

[Dudley]

I am going to call the BRP Office and see how they are handling the issues that are rising. I am still trying to keep an open mind so I will see if they back their products and how they are handling the situations.
I left the forum for about a week to see if it was a one time thing but these concerns keep coming in.
I will also talk to my local dealer and see what is up, afterall they are the ones who told me to come here and find out how people are liking the Spyder.
Hey before I spend the money just want to know what is going on. I respect those who have responded. It is good to hear when owners are enjoying the Spyder with no problems. As I said the one I am looking at just had the recall and even the guy who is selling it to me is concerned that he might be selling a bad machine. So he is checking with his dealer first as well.
I apprecuate the input be it good or bad it helps find the soultion.

If you're looking for a near perfect machine, move on. You will never be happy with a Spyder. From the start you say you wanted one, but now you don't because of what you have read. 50/50 chance? With that in mind you should never leave your house because countless people die outside their homes each day. Better yet, maybe you ought to live in an underground bunker and never come out because the air is bad, you might get struct by lightning, or a car, maybe even a Spyder, you might get shot by someone, etc., etc. It is my belief that a Spyder rider has a greater chance of getting in an accident than his/her Spyder catching on fire. Also, anything made by man has flaws. We buy it because we want it or need it. We tend to it when it needs it and we use it when we need it. That's just the cycle of life.

 

[zzneonzz]

dose any one rember tha pinto and how long it took ford to deal with that it was way more than 4 or 5 cars over a couple of months

Yup and so was the Ford Truck Recall that affected trucks across i believe 5-6 years and it amounted to 100+ fires.

 

[RCB]

Very Emotional Here

Very zen like comments. I understand once you buy something you want to defend the purchase, I would do the same, just looking at the machine as a purchase and the toss up of riding it versus it in the shop all the time.
I do not think it has to do with life and death issues just common sense buying vs. an emotional purchase.
Like I said it is great you love it if you do I am just looking for honest responses and you have all done that
Thanks - any other comments -
Like has BRP replaced and backed these Spyders that catch fire, if yes and they are backing their products then I would buy but have not heard that comment made.
So, of the seven that caught fire how many has BRP backed and replaced?

 

[Frig]

I bought a Mazda RX8 the first year they came out. I've had more problems with that than my Spyder. If you're going to buy something "new", then you just have to be willing to deal with some issues. I'm happy with both purchases overall. My Spyder dealer on the other hand????????????????????

 

[Lamonster]

I've said this before and I'm sure I'll say this again. Forums are kind of like a doctors office, people don't go there to talk about how good they feel very often, they mostly go there to talk about a problem they are having. I would say all people are defective if I only went by what I heard and saw at a doctors office.

I've put more miles in a shorter amout of time on my Spyder than I have any of my motorcycles that I've ever owned including quite a few Honda's.

In 40,000+ miles I've spun one wheel bearing and that was covered. If you ask me it is just as well made as any of my Honda's.

 

[RCB]

I appreciate that but,,,,,,

Thanks for the input but no one has answered the question does BPR
back this spyders that have caught fire that really what I want to know. I can deal with the repairs and updates.
I think there have been seven fires and these are easy to find just google them.
But there is nothing about the company backing the product. It would be great if a representative spoke here in the forum and said yes we will back these Spyder owners whose bikes catch fire that was really what I was looking for.
I do appreciate the input and I will them directly and see what the response is. I was just hoping that a rep here could speak for the company
My local dealer sent me here saying this was a great place to get feedback as it is BPR hosted.
Thanks Again

 

[BajaRon]

Very zen like comments. I understand once you buy something you want to defend the purchase,

Not sure how much "Zen" I'm carrying around and I certainly don't need to defend my purchase.

Everyone makes bad purchases in their life. I bought a Datsun B-210 once. Should have known better. Never tried to defend that purchase.

If I have problems with my Spyder I don't have any problems saying so. If there is something I don't like about my Spyder I don't try to hide it.

I must admit, I'm not really sure what Zen is...But I know I like my Spyder. Hated it when I first got it for about 300 miles. And I have said so. Was I Un-Zen'd then?

Once I finally got used to the Spyder I love it (No Zen intended). I have a Suzuki M109R which I like a lot. Yet all my miles have been on the Spyder since I got it.

It is just as unreasonabe to beat up the Spyder unnecessarily as it would be to give it unrealistic praise.

Someone can like their Spyder without having an ulterior motive.

 

[Dudley]

Has any automotive company bought back a fired vehicle? I carry full coverage insurance on our Spyder to cover any loses that may occur. And again, 6 or 7 fires out of over 10,000 Spyders is not a epidemic. You want a Spyder or not? That's your decision to make. We can input all day long on your thread, but we will never be able to make your decision. IMO if your are still stuck on the fire issue, don't buy one. You can't see the forest for the trees.

 

[jimmykjimmy]

I love my Spydie my Spydie loves me. Forums like this only alert to potential problems. If you read most car blogs, forums, reviews you'd be riding a bicycle all of your life (and even they get bum raps)
I love my Spydie my Spydie love me!:yes:

 

[BajaRon]

Has any automotive company bought back a fired vehicle?

Exactly what I thought when I saw that statement. Give us a list of the burnt vehicles that manufacturers have bought back.:dontknow:

If this is a requirement before you purchase from any manufacturer, you may be walking.

But I'm a live and let live kind of guy. Since we will both have ended up with the transportation mode of our choice, I'll wave to you as I glide by on my Spyder! hyea:

 

[fastfraser]

I have been checking this forum and I was just about to buy a Spyder but after reading about recalls and fires I think I better forget the purchase and move on. I need to let my friends know about all these problems and save them from a major problem. Too bad these machines look cool and fun but with all the problem and a company that is not backing the problem.
It it time to stay clear. Thanks for saving me a bunch a money !!

:2thumbs: Love the :spyder2: buy another one in a heart beat. There isn't any machine built that won't break or one that can't be fixed. The :spyder2: is new cutting edge technology. Live with it or move on. Don't be bad mouthen something you know nothing about.

 

[higgy]

happy with brp

I have been checking this forum and I was just about to buy a Spyder but after reading about recalls and fires I think I better forget the purchase and move on. I need to let my friends know about all these problems and save them from a major problem. Too bad these machines look cool and fun but with all the problem and a company that is not backing the problem.
It it time to stay clear. Thanks for saving me a bunch a money !!

who r u ? do u even know what u r talking about? if u did know i would say the exact opposite because they r working on the minor problems! thank you for that B.R.P.

very proud and happy Spyder owner !!!!!
:spyder2:

 

[Lamonster]

Thanks for the input but no one has answered the question does BPR
back this spyders that have caught fire that really what I want to know. I can deal with the repairs and updates.
I think there have been seven fires and these are easy to find just google them.
But there is nothing about the company backing the product. It would be great if a representative spoke here in the forum and said yes we will back these Spyder owners whose bikes catch fire that was really what I was looking for.
I do appreciate the input and I will them directly and see what the response is. I was just hoping that a rep here could speak for the company
My local dealer sent me here saying this was a great place to get feedback as it is BPR hosted.
Thanks Again

If you have a fire you deal with the insurance company not BRP. The insurance company would then deal with BRP.

As far as your dealer saying this was a great place for feedback he was right, where he was wrong is this is not hosted or paid for by BRP in any way shape or form and there are no BRP reps that speak for BRP on this forum.

 

[RCB]

OK

LOL I have to admit you people are passionate you either hate it or love it there is no in between. I would not say I no nothing about it I have ridden serveral of them and talked to 5 people who own them in town.

The last person I spoke with was a veteran from the Vietnam War, being a veteran myself I knew I could trust his input. He just returned from a 5,000 mile trip. He had pluses and misses about the spyder so a fair evaluation.

But I like to hear what others think postive or negative comments are good, I like when a person stands up for something they like. I am just a due diligent guy. As far as being scared to go outside or walk across the street I dont think so after serving this country.

I do respect what you all have said I know it is what you feel. Thanks

 

[Magic Man]

You need to go someplace else and buy something else!

BRP is not going to say they are backing these fire damaged Spyder's until the root cause of these fires has been determined. Which as of now still has not been found.

There is a whole bunch of "Salem which hunt' type of speculation as to just what could have happened, but nobody knows for a fact just what has happened to these bikes as of yet.

For BRP to come out and say "we'll back these fire damaged Spyder's even though nobody knows for sure what the cause of these fires has been" will never happen. When it is found out just what happened to these bikes and IF it is found to be BRP's responsibility, then we see what they do about it then.

Until then, no manufacturer would ever say "just because we make it, and it caught fire we'll cover it" no way!

Almost everybody here love's their Spyder, and would buy one again as they are so much fun. Yes some of these first year cutting edge bikes had some adjustments needed. But I, as most of us here are glad BRP had the balls to bring out such a cutting edge bike in the first place.

If you want all of us here to plead and beg you to buy a Spyder you're in the wrong place. I, as everybody else here don't need you to buy or even like a Spyder to somehow validate our purchases, as we are all very happy with our bikes for the most part, one and all.

But, I don't think coming into a forum called Spyder LOVERS (which was started for people who do just that, Love Spyder's) and tell us how you're not going to buy one because they have this wrong with them or that wrong with them. Or that BRP won't give you (not even an owner) the answers you want about these fires so you'll buy one, is something I for one could do without hearing.

So don't buy one, it's your choice and money! But me, I don't give a hoot if you ever do! I LOVE OUR 2 SPYDERS and would buy one again in a heartbeat!

So, that's just what I"m going to do again for the third time as soon as the new 2010 touring models come out.

MM

 

[Dudley]

You need to go someplace else and buy something else!

BRP is not going to say they are backing these fire damaged Spyder's until the root cause of these fires has been determined. Which as of now still has not been found.

There is a whole bunch of "Salem which hunt' type of speculation as to just what could have happened, but nobody knows for a fact just what has happened to these bikes as of yet.

For BRP to come out and say "we'll back these fire damaged Spyder's even though nobody knows for sure what the cause of these fires has been" will never happen. When it is found out just what happened to these bikes and IF it is found to be BRP's responsibility, then we see what they do about it then.

Until then, no manufacturer would ever say "just because we make it, and it caught fire we'll cover it" no way!

Almost everybody here love's their Spyder, and would buy one again as they are so much fun. Yes some of these first year cutting edge bikes had some adjustments needed. But I, as most of us here are glad BRP had the balls to bring out such a cutting edge bike in the first place.

If you want all of us here to plead and beg you to buy a Spyder you're in the wrong place. I, as everybody else here don't need you to buy or even like a Spyder to somehow validate our purchases, as we are all very happy with our bikes for the most part, one and all.

But, I don't think coming into a forum called Spyder LOVERS (which was started for people who do just that, Love Spyder's) and tell us how you're not going to buy one because they have this wrong with them or that wrong with them. Or that BRP won't give you (not even an owner) the answers you want about these fires so you'll buy one, is something I for one could do without hearing.

So don't buy one, it's your choice and money! But me, I don't give a hoot if you ever do! I LOVE OUR 2 SPYDERS and would buy one again in a heartbeat!

So, that's just what I"m going to do again for the third time as soon as the new 2010 touring models come out.

MM

Darn that was so well put!hyea:

 

[RCB]

I have to tell you

You gave me the responses I was looking for, I knew if I put up a controversial topic I would get real responses.
Thanks! This helps a bunch

 

[Dudley]

You gave me the responses I was looking for, I knew if I put up a controversial topic I would get real responses.
Thanks! This helps a bunch

OH boy, we got another one!