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Falken Tyre Pressure

How do the big boys do this??

Well, the racing people use this technique and so I have used this method successfully on all of my bikes, cars, trucks, trailers etc over the years and it has always worked well.

A tire should increase about 10 percent in pressure from cold to full operating temperature. Example: Starting at 25psi cold, the tire should be at 27.5psi when completely warmed up. Starting at 30psi, tire at full temp should be 33psi.

Inflate the tire to the pressure recommended by the tire manufacture, or one you like (or the best guess). Then run the bike until it gets to full operating temp riding it like you normally would (ie, highway, twisty, around town, 2 up, or whatever is "normal" for you). Then check the pressure. If it has gone up 10 percent + or - just a little, you are right on.

If it goes up more than 10 percent then increase the cold starting pressure by a pound or two and try again.

If it does not get to cold plus 10 percent, lower the cold starting pressure by a pound or two and try again.

It takes a few times to get it right, but after that, you never need to check again, just set it and forget it.

It is hard to believe, but this actually works without much regard to the ambient outdoor temperature. Even when it is hot, the 10 percent thing just seems to work. You only have to adjust the cold starting pressure to the magic number as the weather goes from cold to hot and back again over the course of the year.

As an aside, having the fobo TPMS system makes this a breeze to do!!

Have fun, and ride safe.

Mr Bill
 
TIRE PSI

Well, the racing people use this technique and so I have used this method successfully on all of my bikes, cars, trucks, trailers etc over the years and it has always worked well.

A tire should increase about 10 percent in pressure from cold to full operating temperature. Example: Starting at 25psi cold, the tire should be at 27.5psi when completely warmed up. Starting at 30psi, tire at full temp should be 33psi.

Inflate the tire to the pressure recommended by the tire manufacture, or one you like (or the best guess). Then run the bike until it gets to full operating temp riding it like you normally would (ie, highway, twisty, around town, 2 up, or whatever is "normal" for you). Then check the pressure. If it has gone up 10 percent + or - just a little, you are right on.

If it goes up more than 10 percent then increase the cold starting pressure by a pound or two and try again.

If it does not get to cold plus 10 percent, lower the cold starting pressure by a pound or two and try again.

It takes a few times to get it right, but after that, you never need to check again, just set it and forget it.

It is hard to believe, but this actually works without much regard to the ambient outdoor temperature. Even when it is hot, the 10 percent thing just seems to work. You only have to adjust the cold starting pressure to the magic number as the weather goes from cold to hot and back again over the course of the year.

As an aside, having the fobo TPMS system makes this a breeze to do!!

Have fun, and ride safe.

Mr Bill
Nice theory - However could you please tell me what manufacturer of ....Auto tires ... gives recommended tire pressures for Spyders ............. Answer - NONE , because the Auto Tire manufacturers don't test their tires with the Spyder's specifications in mind ... Mike :thumbup:
 
Ride report

Today I dropped my rear pressure from 20 to 18 psi. I didn't think it would make much difference. I was wrong. Did some mountain twisties, city driving, and 60-70 mph sweepers. A little over 180 miles total. I didn't feel much in the city except the bumps were a little softer. Mountain twisties and sweepers were noticeably more smooth and in better control. Much better.....I thought I might have a little mushy feeling but had none. Great improvement. I might be a slow learner. But I have now become a believer. Those of you running CTs are missing better performance by running higher pressure. Thank you gentlemen....
 
RECENT TIRE PSI CHANGE

Today I dropped my rear pressure from 20 to 18 psi. I didn't think it would make much difference. I was wrong. Did some mountain twisties, city driving, and 60-70 mph sweepers. A little over 180 miles total. I didn't feel much in the city except the bumps were a little softer. Mountain twisties and sweepers were noticeably more smooth and in better control. Much better.....I thought I might have a little mushy feeling but had none. Great improvement. I might be a slow learner. But I have now become a believer. Those of you running CTs are missing better performance by running higher pressure. Thank you gentlemen....
Thanks for sharing :clap:.... maybe your post will give others a bit of a nudge to at least try a lower PSI .... I am surprised you noticed it that quickly, but you didn't drop your psi 10lbs, it was only 2 lbs...... but it will actually show performance gains and assist the feel of the suspension .... I hope Peter reads this post ...... Sir I hope you have an Auto tire on the rear ( I think you do :thumbup:) ....... How about the fronts , auto tires can be as low as 14psi and also benefit from less pressure ............... Mike :thumbup:
 
Today I ran 18PSI in all 3 tires. Yes, car tires. The bike felt GREAT. No wandering or swimming feel at all. I previously tried 16 in the fronts and didn't like it. Maybe now that I have the correct pressure for the rear, I may try a little lower in the fronts again. But for now, 18 seems to be the sweet spot for all 3. I was truly impressed by the difference a couple of pounds makes. Sorry to hijack this thread but I do think the information is relevant to the OPs question.
 
The low pressure mafia is out again. It's impossible to say anything else, or have an opinion on these threads otherwise.

I've tried running low pressures. I hated the feel of it completely. Was incredibly squishy and felt a LOT of side wall play on easy corners.

I'm running 25-26psi and love it.
 
The low pressure mafia is out again. It's impossible to say anything else, or have an opinion on these threads otherwise.

I've tried running low pressures. I hated the feel of it completely. Was incredibly squishy and felt a LOT of side wall play on easy corners.

I'm running 25-26psi and love it.

i don’t understand, Todd. You have indeed just said something else, and you have just expressed an opinion, so it is certainly not impossible. ;) Mike and Peter are expressing their opinion, as are you. Which opinion you choose to run with is entirely up to the individual. I personally find the lower psi around 20 preferable to 26psi. This decision was made after considering all the input I could find, for which I am very appreciative.

Pete
 
That's an over-simplification of the situation...
I can only say that in my case: I stay within the suggested tire pressure range for the OEM Kendas.

...But those tire pressures don't apply to the aftermarket tires that I have happily used. :thumbup:
 
i don’t understand, Todd. You have indeed just said something else, and you have just expressed an opinion, so it is certainly not impossible. ;) Mike and Peter are expressing their opinion, as are you. Which opinion you choose to run with is entirely up to the individual. I personally find the lower psi around 20 preferable to 26psi. This decision was made after considering all the input I could find, for which I am very appreciative.

Pete
This may be the first time I've seen an Aussie take something completely literally! :)

I'm quite sure you know what I meant. The vitriol received regarding the opinion of higher psi's on these forums is obvious, and every long-time poster here know who I'm referring.

I am at 26 psi because I did the same as you did: I read a lot: not just here, but other resources. Read others' opinions. I even took those opinions and used them in analysis of tire pressures on multiple rides. Tweaked things up, and tweaked things down. Measured heat across surfaces. Did my due diligence, in my opinion.

26psi is what makes my ride the way I like it. 14psi looked like my tires were coming off the rims, and just turning in a driveway was a chore. Hated the performance, and it felt dangerous to me actually. I could totally understand how someone would go "in the middle." Personally, I like the lowered rolling resistance.
 
This may be the first time I've seen an Aussie take something completely literally! :)

I'm quite sure you know what I meant. The vitriol received regarding the opinion of higher psi's on these forums is obvious, and every long-time poster here know who I'm referring.

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Yeah Todd, but you missed my point. You expressed your opinion quite strongly, and so did Mike and Peter. None of you prevented the other from posting their opinion, and apart from the heated comments which came from both sides, helped provide input to those making a call, for which I am grateful.

Pete
 
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