Bob Denman
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Seat belts are not standard equipment on ANY Spyder, in ANY of the United States... This is a back-yard "fix"...
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Accident - Sad to see..
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Rocketman 2012
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Seat belts on any vehicle without a roll-bar could have terrible consequences in a roll over:yikes:
Sam
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Bob Denman
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Yup! nojoke
I installed 2 strips of COB led lights onto the back brackets of my smoothspyder backrest. They are wired to the brake light under the urban rack. I also installed 2 led strip lights under the rear fender above the wheel. The COB lights were 3 dollars for the pair and the led strips were 5 bucks on eBay. The COB lights are really bright, hopefully they will help my visibility when stopped.
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IdahoMtnSpyder
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What color are those lights? They look white in the pictures.
Bob Denman
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jaherbst
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Bob Denman
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I was afraid of that... :yikes:
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jaherbst
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Well folks sitting helplessly at a stop light or stop sign while someone is about to rear end you is bad enough. I can not for the world of me see why looking in the rear view mirror or a rear facing camera would be of any help. I am always looking to see who is behind me but could do very little about it.
Flashing brake lights while foot is on brake, Custom dynamics, bright clothing or simply pumping the brake light several times when someone approaches from the rear is really all we can do. Texting and cell phones is the root cause along with reading (yes this does happen), makeup, slapping the kids
, dogs on laps while driving and I could think of many others.I can't see filming your rear end accident helping you any. Do not depend on it to solve the rear end problem. Until cell phone use is prohibited on a national basis and people ABIDE by it. S--t is going to happen
Jack
Bob Denman
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:agree: The best that you can do: try and leave yourself an avenue for escape... :shocked:
I NEVER park dead-center in the lane, when I'm at a stoplight. I try and leave space for the "nit-wit" on the phone, to slide right up along side of me; wondering what the Hell just happened! nojoke
I NEVER park dead-center in the lane, when I'm at a stoplight. I try and leave space for the "nit-wit" on the phone, to slide right up along side of me; wondering what the Hell just happened! nojoke
Bob Denman
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Again... :agree:
You might just end up recording your own demise... :shocked: Imagine how your friends and family will enjoy seeing THAT on the internet... nojoke
finless
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It's not going to help you... But if you die, it will help your family know what happened!
It is a he said she said when someone dies and cannot give their side of the story....
I film every commute into work every day for this reason. If something happens to me, there is footage showing my wife what happened for insurance reasons or whatever she wants to do with it.
Bob
jaherbst
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They are both red when lit. When unlit they are white. Search on ebay or amazon for COB led lights and then look for the ones that illuminate red. They are all 12v lights and use very little power. They also come with double sided 3m tape so can be placed anywhere and easily spliced into the brake light wires under the rear seat on the F3.
Pirate looks at --
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Just remember that with those seat belts holding you in place, your Spyder will become your worst enemy as it crushes you! That would be the last thing you would ever want to do! You best bet, is as Bob mentioned, give yourself an escape route, and ATGATT. If this Ryder was dressed for it they survived!
jaherbst
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avoiding being rear-ended
I have to agree with Bob here.
Searching for an escape avenue while still coming to a stop ahead (WAAAY ahead, when possible) so you'll have somewhere to go if you see something bad about to happen from behind is your best defense.
Slow early and gradually whenever you can engineer approaches to stops, and try not to rush up to the back side of the car in front but instead keep crawling slowly toward the ultimate "dead in the water" position, maximizing the safe zone of space between you and that car's bumper in front.
It doesn't always work out to be a perfect textbook "safe stop," but by always looking for the most defensive position, you increase the frequency when it works out nicely.
I've had several friends follow my RT-Limited and comment that there really isn't a whole lot of illumination for following traffic to notice. Heeding their concerns, I've added the TricLED front fender red LEDs, and have several more options I'm deciding between to enhance both running and brake lighting. One I'll definitely add will be a pair of flashing LED units on each side of the license plate. Annoying to traffic behind? Perhaps, a little, but I would rather call attention to myself in this case.
I have to agree with Bob here.
Searching for an escape avenue while still coming to a stop ahead (WAAAY ahead, when possible) so you'll have somewhere to go if you see something bad about to happen from behind is your best defense.
Slow early and gradually whenever you can engineer approaches to stops, and try not to rush up to the back side of the car in front but instead keep crawling slowly toward the ultimate "dead in the water" position, maximizing the safe zone of space between you and that car's bumper in front.
It doesn't always work out to be a perfect textbook "safe stop," but by always looking for the most defensive position, you increase the frequency when it works out nicely.
I've had several friends follow my RT-Limited and comment that there really isn't a whole lot of illumination for following traffic to notice. Heeding their concerns, I've added the TricLED front fender red LEDs, and have several more options I'm deciding between to enhance both running and brake lighting. One I'll definitely add will be a pair of flashing LED units on each side of the license plate. Annoying to traffic behind? Perhaps, a little, but I would rather call attention to myself in this case.
Darren111
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camera rear footage
Second this Bob and today I watched the front footage of yesterdays riding from my Sena 10c on my laptop and could see clear car registrations in front of me and the footage even filmed my speed from Sandra, which is proof of evidence of my speed too. In the UK camera footage has stood up in making prosecutions against drivers in the wrong. A rear facing camera and a hi vis vest over my leather jacket with the words "Triker with Camera" printed at back is my next purchase.
Second this Bob and today I watched the front footage of yesterdays riding from my Sena 10c on my laptop and could see clear car registrations in front of me and the footage even filmed my speed from Sandra, which is proof of evidence of my speed too. In the UK camera footage has stood up in making prosecutions against drivers in the wrong. A rear facing camera and a hi vis vest over my leather jacket with the words "Triker with Camera" printed at back is my next purchase.
jaherbst
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:agree::agree::agree: "Start slow and then taper off" Seriously, start to slow early so that your speed is a gradual coming to a stop and gives the person behind you more notice that you are going to stop. If you do not have a flashing tail light apply your brake pedal on and off. Sometimes a brake light held on steady is hard to distinguish from a regular tail light.
Jack, long in the tooth but full of opinions
regarding long teeth and opinions
Jack:
Long teeth are better than none at all.
Just a final point about conspicuity through use of brake lights:
often on bikes and trykes we just roll off the gas and achieve enough deceleration to slow for what's ahead. Unfortunately, just rolling off the gas doesn't activate our brake lights (no matter how many additional lights we've added just for this purpose).
If there's traffic behind, it's good to let them know of our speed adjustment by tapping the brake pedal lightly to activate the stop light(S), even when actual use of the brakes hasn't yet commenced.
Pete
:agree::agree::agree: "Start slow and then taper off" Seriously, start to slow early so that your speed is a gradual coming to a stop and gives the person behind you more notice that you are going to stop. If you do not have a flashing tail light apply your brake pedal on and off. Sometimes a brake light held on steady is hard to distinguish from a regular tail light.
Jack, long in the tooth but full of opinions
Jack:
Long teeth are better than none at all.
Just a final point about conspicuity through use of brake lights:
often on bikes and trykes we just roll off the gas and achieve enough deceleration to slow for what's ahead. Unfortunately, just rolling off the gas doesn't activate our brake lights (no matter how many additional lights we've added just for this purpose).
If there's traffic behind, it's good to let them know of our speed adjustment by tapping the brake pedal lightly to activate the stop light(S), even when actual use of the brakes hasn't yet commenced.
Pete
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