Accident - Sad to see..

[Bob Denman]

There was some development being done on a system of auxiliary brakelights, that used some sort of deceleration measuring sensor to trigger their activation.
I don't know what finally became of them; does anyone have any more information? :dontknow:

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

There was some development being done on a system of auxiliary brakelights, that used some sort of deceleration measuring sensor to trigger their activation.
I don't know what finally became of them; does anyone have any more information? :dontknow:

Delving into the bottomless fount of all data, i.e., Google, I discover the following:

http://vololights.com/pages/what-is-a-brakeless-deceleration-indicator

http://www.amazon.com/GearBrake-GB-1-Smart-Brake-Module/dp/B00ODR69QK

http://www.bikealertsystem.com/

http://www.slowntell.com/products.html

The BikeAlert will connect into existing brake lights. The Amazon one comes from http://gearbrake.com/. The last one is aimed at trucks but maybe would work on bikes. I haven't followed up on the details of it.

From what I find the Volo unit, the priciest of the group, actuates the brake light at a variable rate depending on how hard you are decelerating. Revzilla has the bare module. http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/vololights-volomod-brakeless-deceleration-indicator

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Came across another unit released this year from Ohmics. Here's a mag article about it. http://www.webbikeworld.com/lights/ohmics-brake-light-review/

 

[sandeejs]

Eyes on the Road?

Jack:
If there's traffic behind, it's good to let them know of our speed adjustment by tapping the brake pedal lightly to activate the stop light(S), even when actual use of the brakes hasn't yet commenced.
Pete

That's assuming the people behind you are actually looking at the road/vehicles on the road. Or that they are sober enough to remember part of driving is stopping.
Meh.
~Sandee~

 

[pitzerwm]

Are the seat belts standard BRP stock on your RTS or aftersales accessory? Reason for asking I didn't know you could have a seatbelt on a Spyder. One thing I like about SL is you learn something new everyday :2thumbs:

No, went to a junk yard and got lap belts and there is 4 bolts under seat, just need a longer bolt. If the detractors actually looked at the accident pictures most if not all of the recent ones, the Spyders stayed on their wheels. Anyone thinks that they are clever/smart/quick enough to avoid someone else's stupidity is dreaming. Personally, I'd rather die upon impact vs flying thru the air and become a paraplegic. And anyone that thinks they can fly without injury, at our age is also dreaming. I remember everyone refusing to wear a seat belt in cars when they came out and became mandatory, only a fool doesn't wear their seat belt in a car. BTW Gold Wings have air bags now.

 

[Bob Denman]

:nopic: of your seatbelts?
If you just bolted them to your seat pan; I can pretty much figure that it won't hold up, during any serious impact... nojoke

 

[Pirate looks at --]

No, went to a junk yard and got lap belts and there is 4 bolts under seat, just need a longer bolt. If the detractors actually looked at the accident pictures most if not all of the recent ones, the Spyders stayed on their wheels. Anyone thinks that they are clever/smart/quick enough to avoid someone else's stupidity is dreaming. Personally, I'd rather die upon impact vs flying thru the air and become a paraplegic. And anyone that thinks they can fly without injury, at our age is also dreaming. I remember everyone refusing to wear a seat belt in cars when they came out and became mandatory, only a fool doesn't wear their seat belt in a car. BTW Gold Wings have air bags now.

all I can say is good luck!

 

[seaweed]

From what I find the Volo unit, the priciest of the group, actuates the brake light at a variable rate depending on how hard you are decelerating. Revzilla has the bare module. http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/vololights-volomod-brakeless-deceleration-indicator

According to http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/vololights-volomod-brakeless-deceleration-indicator it states that the VolMod "Does not work with CANBus"
which Spyders have.

I got the following email from Vectolabs

All CAN-AM motorcycles are on the CANBUS but I think the license plate lights is still 12V. You can use VoloMOD with external LEDs. Our other CANBUS customers with VoloMOD have used LED strips from Radiantz or Custom Dynamics.Note:
The Vololights do not work well with the RS as the license plate is mounted on the swing arm (Too much Vibration) but will work well with the RT. I recommend the most sensitive setting.
http://install.vololights.com/Guide/Sports+Touring+Mode/10?lang=en
Vololights only need 12V which I believe you can still pull from the license plate illumination.

I was looking at the VoloMOD but now not sure what to do.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

According to http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/vololights-volomod-brakeless-deceleration-indicator it states that the VolMod "Does not work with CANBus"
which Spyders have.

I got the following email from Vectolabs

All CAN-AM motorcycles are on the CANBUS but I think the license plate lights is still 12V. You can use VoloMOD with external LEDs. Our other CANBUS customers with VoloMOD have used LED strips from Radiantz or Custom Dynamics.Note:
The Vololights do not work well with the RS as the license plate is mounted on the swing arm (Too much Vibration) but will work well with the RT. I recommend the most sensitive setting.
http://install.vololights.com/Guide/Sports+Touring+Mode/10?lang=en
Vololights only need 12V which I believe you can still pull from the license plate illumination.

I was looking at the VoloMOD but now not sure what to do.

I say don't worry about it. Here is a diagram of the CAN BUS system on the '13 RT. The CAN BUS modules all communicate with each other, but that's it. As long as you connect to full time 12 volts and use auxiliary lights you'll have no tie-in to CAN BUS. You can even connect into the existing brake light circuit with no problem because it is not connected to CAN BUS. They are powered by fused 12 volts through the brake light switch. The only lights that have any tie-in at all into CAN BUS are the turn signals, and even they are not directly connected to it. The turn signal lights are powered from the cluster and the cluster is on the bus.

From what I find the newer BMWs have the tail/brake light powered by a CAN BUS controlled power supply. Those are the kinds of circuits that are a problem when it comes to adding additional lights.

There are several 12 volt full time circuits available on the Spyder including power to the tail light & plate light, and the passenger hand grip heater switch, and a lead to provide power for trailer lights. I have my high mount brake light tied into the brake light circuit and have no problems at all.