right.. so it's not that it "can't" do it. It 100% can do it, but they dumb it down so much for the average rider. I've had a tire up on the ryker a couple times. both times doing a standing 180 turn at full throttle in sport mode. It really wasn't a huge deal and i turned out fine. If you are diving into corners at 60mph+ then sure.. thats probably not going to work.
I'm talking about getting this thing to actually slide/drift. I got some ideas to try in the spring. The wheel sensor thing will work, but it throws it into limp mode. You'd have to bypass the front sensor to only read the rear one. then you lose ABS as well.
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I do agree that BRP have been overly conservative in their 'dumbing down' of the capabilities of these machines in their effort to cater to the 'least capable of their likely riders' or at the very least they've
completely missed the potential for selling these things to those looking for a more spirited riding experience, but I don't think it's really
impossible to get a lot more from them than it sounds as tho you have so far?! :dontknow: That said, while I've spent a bunch of very enjoyable days punting a few different Rykers around the place, I haven't really spent enough time on them to be able say that this is
definitely the case, but if they're anything like the Spyder's that I
have ridden far more extensively, then I really don't think that you need to go to
all the trouble of disabling or by-passing wheel sensors to get somewhat more fun from them! :lecturef_smilie:
Bearing in mind that generally, the Spyder's Nannies are far stricter than your Ryker's, I feel this ^ cos I've found that every Spyder I've ridden
will slide within limits; they
will drift within limits; they'll even travel quite some distance with one front wheel in the air (hey, they'll even travel a
fairly short distance with
TWO front wheels in the air, but only
IF you get enough speed over a sharpish crest or hump!
) and they can do all sorts of things that the Nanny
will try very hard to stop you from doing
IF you let things get untidy, let things exceed her limits, &/or otherwise let things get out of hand! :shocked:
Just think for a bit about all the sensors feeding the computers and what info they're going to be reporting, and how all that's going to appear to the suite of programs that we affectionately call Nanny... in amongst all that & the 'controls' imposed, there's going to be limits to the speed differential you can have between front and rear wheels (I reckon there's a lot greater allowance on a Ryker tho!) and there's going to be limits to the amount of steering angle you can dial in while that's happening too; just like there's going to be limits on the amount of wheel slip you can generate &/or the angle of lean (yaw) she'll allow at a given speed; and limits on how much throttle you can wind on when you're approaching the limits on any/all of those others -
exceed any one of those limits, and the Nanny
WILL shut you down -
exceed more than just one of them, and she'll
shut you down quicker than you can blink!!! :chill:
But if you really work at it to fine-tune your 'feel' of where those limits are, or at least work out how far you can push them before getting slapped down (some of us, me amongst them, can be slow learners, and so hafta do it the hard way....
pps: ); and then learn to ride juuust within those limits, even if you
are sliding or drifting or lifting a wheel, you can get away with experiencing a lot that
most less 'on the edge' riders just won't ever be able to slip by the Nanny! :clap: Mind you, maybe it's just that I'm older & slower than I used to be, cos I don't think doing this on a Spyder/Ryker is as easily learnt, intuitive, or even as forgiving during the learning process as it can be on a 2-wheeled bike or in a 4-wheeled car, but I'm convinced that doing it as & when you desire
IS eventually achievable - altho I reckon you'll need to develop a much gentler touch, smoother control, and even more careful body-work & balance than ever before in order to keep everything juuuust under
ALL of the Nanny's limits for whatever you're doing,
but it can be done! :yes: I'm still working on it; but the more I ride & practice, the more it's happening for me as & when
I want it to!
hyea:
Just Sayin'.... :cheers:
