Will shaft drive be coming to the 1330?

[louigii]

I sure would love to see Shaft Drive on all their bikes. Much more reliable and much less maintenance. That's what I dislike the most on my F3. Belt always needs to be adjusted and hopefully no rocks get in the belt.

 

[GaryinWI]

I’ve had a number of bikes, some with chain, some belt and some shaft. Obviously wouldn’t get anything with chain. Shaft is quiet and clean but some added weight, high first cost and if you have a problem, it can be expensive to fix. I’ve concluded it’s hard to beat a belt. They require little maintenance, generally last 50k miles, are quiet, clean, low cost and lightweight. My 2 cents.

 

[jerrydonna]

wow, my father was a LIFE LONG rider had some type of motorcycle 70 of his 85 years. In 1974 Moto Guzzi 850 (full Dress) SHAFT DRIVE. That bike was awesome I dreamed (13years old) of some day owning ONE. He had later a Goldwing BMW But he always loved the ride of that Guzzi
not his but what I remember:

 

[AVBIZ]

The new Ryker 900cc is an inline 3 cylinder with CVT trans and shaft drive. I wonder if the shaft drive could be coming to the 1330 sometime in the future?

Don’t know if the forum gods can accommodate but it would be great to have a survey question regarding. I think part of the job of a forum is to drive decision making at the OEM ( I know BRP is listening/lurking; I see their avatar periodically) based on our input.

 

[bikerbillone]

I somewhat doubt BRP will do the shaft drive vs the belt. Shaft is a heavy thing to lug around with the Rotax engine vs the belt drive. The shaft drive is durable if there's no offset as in the problems CSC was having, and then there probably the U joints to contend with, they take real beating.

 

[ARtraveler]

Any one can start a survey question if they would like to. The SL forum is in no way a part of BRP. They do come and look at our postings from time to time to "test" the waters and see what the "general public" is saying. That is a good sign.

Sometimes they listen to us, sometimes they don't.

 

[chris56]

we did more than 40.000 with the "old" Spyders .. one of the reasons to take a Ryker was the shaft drive , we wanted something what we can use on all the roads what we have here (Alps) ..
and I do not understand why BRP does not offer a full protection for the belt - would cost not really much !
after now 10.000 adventure-miles (no problems) with the Ryker we plan not to change, maybe if a little bigger Version on this base is the future ??

 

[AVBIZ]

Any one can start a survey question if they would like to. The SL forum is in no way a part of BRP. They do come and look at our postings from time to time to "test" the waters and see what the "general public" is saying. That is a good sign.

Sometimes they listen to us, sometimes they don't.

Thought there might be a forum web tool that can create a survey; I didn’t see it in the “go advanced” section.

 

[ARtraveler]

Thought their might be a forum web tool that can create a survey; I didn’t see it in the “go advanced” section.

To start a survey:
Go to Forum: Find the forum you wish to post your poll in.

Click on: Post new thread

Once the box for creating the thread pops up....scroll down past it and you will see a section that says: Post a poll. Follow the directions and you should be good to go.

 

[Yeochips]

:agree:

I would think it would make sense for BRP to do the transition from Belt to Shaft as they will have an assembly line already for the Ryker and it would be cost effective for there to be only one final drive (in manufacture, costs and assembly) for both the Spyder & the Ryker models
I don’t think we will get any confirmation of a change for the Spyder models to a shaft drive until they release any changes to the 2020 models their fear would be having belt models left unsold as buyers wait for a shaft model to be available
Maybe that’s why they have reduced the current price of new Spyders to use up existing stock
I would consider replacing my existing 2015 Spyder for a Shaft drive version otherwise I can see no benifit in changiing to a new one as the changes are not offering that much in improvement

 

[glennm]

I agree with eddieshep999
The Ryker was a good opportunity for brp to "test the water" and judge customer acceptance and see how well they (brp) could put together a shaft drive. Much safer to start with the lower horsepower demands and lighter weight of the Ryker and from what I read they have clearly hit a home run with it.
Also taking into account what seems to be a move to a common platform for the F3 & RT there would be significant savings in development and production as has been the case with motor vehicle manufacturers moving to less and less base platforms to build the various models on.
To me the writing is on the wall they just won't admit to it for the reasons eddishep has outlined.
Just my thoughts of course.
Happy with the ST-S with a belt after I got over the fud factor in negotiating our gravel driveway and other not so good roads around our area.
Of course I would love to have a Ryker Rally as well just to run to the station and zoom up our rain damaged driveway but finances don't permit. I just take it easy and no issues thus far.

 

[mrbios]

XS750 vs XS650 let the good times roll...

Enjoyed lots of cruising across Kansas on the 76 Yamaha XS750 shaft drive triple. It never left me down except when I ran out of gas between Protection and Medicine Lodge:sour: Then had work and family take my time and money until the Honda 750 Shadow Aero Shaft drive provided many miles of trouble free cruisin. Enjoyed the Harley and BRP belt drives, but there is a lot to be said for a dependable sealed shaft ryde..

The shaft drive might tempt me off the RT and cruising the back roads again:2thumbs: . Bugs in the teeth just mean I'm still enjoying the ryde.View attachment 167772

I road a neighbors XS750 3 cylinder - very smooth machine. I had a 1981 XS650 special very buzzy.

Considering a Ryker over the 1330: shaft drive + simpler CVT transmission [with no transmission oil to change] (put 28K on my Kymco Grandvista 250cc scooter changed belt one time)! The 1330 uses a manual transmission with complex "automatic shifters" as a bolt on.

Ryker - much easier maintenance - rear wheel, air filter, much less body work to fool with and so on... plenty of power but less than 1330 and lacks the convenience and refinement of 1330 body work / storage. But for $1300 you can add a full luggage system + windshield (not including labor of course). Not a huge fan of open belt drive systems in general and the front pulley spline stripping issue of the 1330.

If you want a smoother vibration free engine than my Honda NC700X better plan on getting a Goldwing. I won't tolerate vibration or waste time changing tires and adding bar weights or grip puppies etc.

 

[mrbios]

Years ago, the shaft drive “stuff” was talked about here on Spyderlovers. Myself, I was then and remain in agreement that shaft drive would eliminate some of the downside regarding the belt drive.
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I welcome shaft drive done right. This is Can Am, and my current thoughts are, be happy with the belt. Simple, low cost and efficient compared to shaft drive.

Great points.

 

[Fatcycledaddy]

I have had chain drive, yamaha 400 special, 4 shaft drive, honda shadow, 1986 yamaha venture royale, 1989 yamaha venture royale, and 1991 yamaha venture royale. I also have two spyders, 2015 RT Limited with roughly 50,000 miles on it, and a 2020 RT Limited that I put a little over 5,000 miles on after the purchase in August of last year.
The belt on the 2015 has a groove in it from a small stone that got caught in the rear pully, that happend befor 10,000 miles on it. The dealer looked at it for the 9,200 mile service and told me that the belt MUST be changed, I chose not to, the groove was in the ribs only and not in the solid part of the belt.
As stated that belt now is at roughly 50,000 miles, at least 20,000 miles of those are pulling a camper trailer, bike fully loaded and two up. The belt has little if any visable ware on it but still hase the grove in the rib.
The ONLY complaint I have about belt drive is the vibration that shows up every now and then at some speeds.

The shaft drives on two of the Yamaha ventures had a crush washer go bad that is on the engine side of the shaft connection, and they leaked oil from there. I had both crush washers replaced and they didnt go bad a second time. One venture had over 100,006 miles on it when a car hit us and totaled it, the others both had about 50,000 miles on them.

 

[pegasus1300]

I don't want shaft drive on my Spyder. Apparently I'm going to get my wish for the forseeable future. I rode Yamaha Ventures from 1986 to 2011 with only 1 shaft failure and that was due to a design flaw on Yamaha's part,which they corrected in 1986. But I like the light weight and simplicity of the belt. Mine has lasted 62,000+ miles and seems to be doing great. It is 9 years old. Granted my old VTwin doesn't seem to have either the belt vibration issues or pully issues the 1330 has. If it did maybe I'd want shaft.

 

[jerrydonna]

I had shaft drive on my 1984 Yamaha Venture 1200, along with removable tail and side bags and fully adjustable handlebars pegs and pedals.

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I learned to drive motorcycles on my fathers 1974 Moto Guzzi, that was a great ride and got a lot of LOOKS oh ya shaft also. I was close to getting a new one for my old age a few years ago

 

[TerryTheSpyderRyder]

I hope not. Shaft drive isn't necessary, it robs power (that's the reason race bikes don't use shaft drive) and it's much heavier and complex than the belt system being used. And why not keep the belt? There's almost no maintenance and they rarely need replacing.