Why the Rush to Add MODS on a Brand New Spyder?

[d.o.spyder-rts]

Bob,

I have to call B.S. on that. You only do it b/c the wife allows you!!

I thought that was all ready implied!:joke: Dale

 

[fastfraser]

If we didn't do mods or try and improve things, we would all be living in caves .Bring on the mods and get out of the cave.

 

[hawkiii]

I have never seen another Spyder that looked exactly like mine. I like that fact. I think people just want to put a little of their personality into their Spyder. Makes it unique to them. Just my thoughts on the subject.

 

[BajaRon]

"While BRP may have some responsibility in what a dealership does they really have no control over much of what goes on in a dealership as far as maintenance on an individual machine."

Ron, I agree with you to a point. While in Durango a comment I heard disappointed me. It went like this: (Tech to owner) who last worked on this Spyder? The owner asked why? The tech said....well for one this part is upside down! (Owner) my dealer. Followed by - Why doesn't BRP do something when dealers screw things up. Tech responded.....dealers are independent agents, we have no control over what they do. Well, being the mouth I am I couldn't help but put my 2c in. Dealers may be independent agents but BRP grants them the privilege of being one.....and it's BRP's responsibility to make sure their dealer network is servicing BRP's customers to BRP and their customers satisfaction. To which there was no response.

(worth noting - this Spyder was under the tent getting dealer screw ups fixed for the better part of 4hrs)

Obviously, BRP has some control and therefore some responsibility in what dealerships do. There is no doubt that BRP is well aware of the issues and their responsibilites and I think they take it very seriously.

I know BRP would like to have the best dealership network in the world. I am sure they are working on it. We all would like more progress in this area.

Some dealerships work very closely with BRP and others probably ignore BRP as much as possible. I'm sure it runs the gambit. I am confident that BRP does all they can to improve their dealership network both in quality and quantity. But again, there is a limit to what they can do.

I would say that the problem is that in the end BRP has only 1 tool, revocation of the dealers license to carry Spyder or BRP products (which are 2 different subjects). That is a very big hammer and it's very difficult to drive a finish nail with a sledge hammer. In other words, how does BRP force a dealership to get their techs properly trained or improve the qulity of service, etc? I don't think the answer is to yank their product from every dealership that has a dissatisfied customer (even granting that the customer has good reason to be dissatisfied).

Of course at some point this is the solution and I'll bet it's been done. But if I were running BRP (interesting thought) I'd sure try everything else before I just closed down my product line at a dealership. By working with a poor performing dealership you do risk more dissatisfied customers, more parts installed upside down or backwards, etc., but you also may end up with a great outlet for your product. You can always pull the plug at some later time if things don't improve.

BRP may well be as frustrated with poor dealerships as we are. I'm sure they would love to push a button and have all the dealerships be like Cowtown (or substitute your great delearship name here). This frustration is probably what you were hearing from the BRP Tech you talked to. Really, what else can they say?

It's a work in progress. That doesn't mean we don't lay blame where due. Some have a greater tolerance and others don't. Everyone has a limit and that varies. Bottom line is we all want the same thing. A great product backed up by great service. That is why BRP provided FREE TECH SERVICE (Very Expensive, Excellent and Free to us, Tech Service) at the owners event. They do care.

 

[Firefly]

I wanted to make my Spyder "my own".

The only mod I did at first was a Calsi XL windshield because I wanted wind protection. Over the first winter, I added comfort items - Corbin seat & back rest and ESI handlebar risers (my right shoulder would hurt after 20 minutes of riding without them). After that I added one mod for coolness - a Micron exhaust. :clap:

My next round of mods were all safety related - ESI Triple Play, ESI Double Play, ESI LED fender tip bulbs, ESI Mud Flap lights, ESI Dayrunners (amber), ESI Dayrunner Pucks (white). All good stuff, except my Triple Play has crapped out on me...left side issues... :yikes:

I have a bad hip so highway pegs were not an option, so I added SFB Racing floorboards. This was before Seal Floorboards were around, otherwise I would have gone with those instead.

There are lots more...but I'm tired of typing! :thumbup:

Interesting you mention the Triple Play crapping out on the left side. I had this happen to 2 of them..... not going to keep throwing money at a product that doesn't last. I believe the problem to be overheating of the triple play unit... especially the newer versions which are smaller than the older ones--- they get really really hot.


Bigger problem was that since ESI sold to Custom Dynamics (and I like BOTH companies)... ESI will tell you to contact Custom about getting parts or warranty... and then Custom doesn't recognize any warranty for items THEY didn't sell you direct.

So the original items bought through ESI before they sold to Custom are not covered under warranty. :sour: Not sure what the original warranty on the Triple Play was.. but most of their LED items were 'lifetime'.

Not putting down these two vendors..... just that particular product is sub-par as far as longevity in my opinion... otherwise both companies have been great to deal with.

 

[Jeriatric]

Obviously, BRP has some control and therefore some responsibility in what dealerships do. There is no doubt that BRP is well aware of the issues and their responsibilites and I think they take it very seriously.

I know BRP would like to have the best dealership network in the world. I am sure they are working on it. We all would like more progress in this area.

Some dealerships work very closely with BRP and others probably ignore BRP as much as possible. I'm sure it runs the gambit. I am confident that BRP does all they can to improve their dealership network both in quality and quantity. But again, there is a limit to what they can do.

I would say that the problem is that in the end BRP has only 1 tool, revocation of the dealers license to carry Spyder or BRP products (which are 2 different subjects). That is a very big hammer and it's very difficult to drive a finish nail with a sledge hammer. In other words, how does BRP force a dealership to get their techs properly trained or improve the qulity of service, etc? I don't think the answer is to yank their product from every dealership that has a dissatisfied customer (even granting that the customer has good reason to be dissatisfied).

Of course at some point this is the solution and I'll bet it's been done. But if I were running BRP (interesting thought) I'd sure try everything else before I just closed down my product line at a dealership. By working with a poor performing dealership you do risk more dissatisfied customers, more parts installed upside down or backwards, etc., but you also may end up with a great outlet for your product. You can always pull the plug at some later time if things don't improve.

BRP may well be as frustrated with poor dealerships as we are. I'm sure they would love to push a button and have all the dealerships be like Cowtown (or substitute your great delearship name here). This frustration is probably what you were hearing from the BRP Tech you talked to. Really, what else can they say?

It's a work in progress. That doesn't mean we don't lay blame where due. Some have a greater tolerance and others don't. Everyone has a limit and that varies. Bottom line is we all want the same thing. A great product backed up by great service. That is why BRP provided FREE TECH SERVICE (Very Expensive, Excellent and Free to us, Tech Service) at the owners event. They do care.

Ron, rather than debate you point by point and in total respect of your points and with all do respect to you. I stand by my statement.

 

[spyderrock]

Back to the original question..why rush to add mods

Because if every single person on this planet looked the same it would be a boring planet. Just like our Spyders if they were all the same boring it would be. Look at the owners event in Durango lines and lines of white rt's, red rt's and so on, then you have mine like it or not I don't really care I love it and that is all the matters.I started the mods before I even took possession, at the dealer i took it for a ride and said that the factory exhaust has to go. Ordered Two Brothers and installed it the first week I had the rt. If some of you think this is over the top then wait and see what I have planned for next summer. I have owned hot rods and trucks as far back as in high school and every single one was modified. It is personal taste and nothing more. I am an artist(Sculptor) and there is no way in he** that I will leave any thing plane jane. Its like someone said here at the owners event I don't have to look at my plate to see if this is my rt. And as someone else said we are keeping the economy going by the purchases we make for our Spyder's. Remember this...YOU WERE BORN AN ORIGINAL DON'T DIE A COPY!!. I am no copy never will be...oh and have a great 4th of July

 

[Grandpa Spyder]

It is all about making it your own. You want it to display your personality and you want the extra safety features that are available. I don't think I have over done my mods, you can check them out by the link at the bottom of this page. I will say that I have been able to change my Spyder pretty easy, but no such luck with the wife. So we just learned to tolerate each other and we have been doing that for 45 years this coming Sunday.

 

[Tru-Blue]

It is all about making it your own. You want it to display your personality and you want the extra safety features that are available. I don't think I have over done my mods, you can check them out by the link at the bottom of this page. I will say that I have been able to change my Spyder pretty easy, but no such luck with the wife. So we just learned to tolerate each other and we have been doing that for 45 years this coming Sunday.

:congrats: on your 45th :clap:

Mods to my :f_spider: is to make it unique and for comfort! The real reason is because it's fun and I can :doorag:. hyea:

 

[JJW SpyderRider]

Why mod?

As you can see by my signature I'm one of those people that mods my Spyders. Many of these mods were custom made including all the LED lights. :thumbup: I didn't touch any of the performance items related to the engine or its operation. I have never had a single code or issue the caused a problem. :yes: Many of my mods were for added visability then comfort.

Got a new RT-S last week and picked up the HMT light, mudflap lights/turn signals, mirror turn signals, Ride-On. List to be continued ..... :dontknow:

 

[BajaRon]

Ron, rather than debate you point by point and in total respect of your points and with all do respect to you. I stand by my statement.

Great! Then I look at it as that we both agree at least on the goal. Probably no 2 people will ever agree on exactly how to get there. Reality can be a beast... hyea:

 

[eddieshep999]

Originally Posted by Lamonster

It's in my DNA to mod things. Can't help it.


I take it you didn't mean DNA - Do Not Adjust

Could job you do otherwise most of us would still be in the dark


Thanks Lamonster


Eddie Sheppard
Reading UK

 

[smoky]

I have THE answer: life is all about tinkering


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No, it's all about marking our territory....:bowdown:smoky

 

[Bob Denman]

Bob,

I have to call B.S. on that. You only do it b/c the wife allows you!!

:shocked: pps: Well I've actually got to admit that I'm....... speechless! :roflblack: :2thumbs:


And you are, unfortunately, one-hundred percent correct... :gaah:

 

[pellcitypete]

hyea:I would say it's a guy thing then I would catch :cus: from every female on herenojoke To me it's making it yours like none other even if it is a small mod.Bikers (because I was one) want to stand out in a group, break the mold set new standards. I grew up in the late 60's&70's we were against every thing and to me this is doing the same thing a way to remember the past. when I first started ridding everyone thought bikers were all bad, thugs and every one should be afraid of them! :thumbup:

 

[Spy+]

Human nature

We are wired to change our surrondings.. Most of the time for the better.. So pick your mods as you see best.. I want them all, specially LEDs since they can save my life on the road:yes::yes:..

 

[Phil]

Weeeeeeellllll... I think this has been an interesting way to spend the 4th of July!

My thoughts have been covered so I'll not repeat. EXCEPT......
For me it's 50% to be unique, 30% for safety (being seen, better handling), 20% pure relaxation and fun. It keeps my mind and skills sharp. I love showing others that most any breathing human can do things they think they can't. I don't golf, fish or hunt and doing mods to Darth has given me a hobby I'm passionate about. There is a great sense of self accomplishment.
Phil, Tyler TX- from my iPad3.5 using Tapatalk HD

 

[Luckyme]

Kind of like someone buying a new home in a American Subdivision, where builders have made many alike. First thing many people do is change paint colors, do some additional landscaping, install a security system, window treatments, change the basic builders lighting fixtures, furnish it in comfy furniture, etc.
With the Spyder, its just personalizing, improving safety, adding lighting, making it more comfortable.

 

[cubuff70]

Some of us do it just to fix stuff that BRP can't seem to find the time to make right in the first place...

 

[Bob Denman]

Nahhh... It's about getting me out of the house and away from the MIssus and her evil inluence! :roflblack:
Uh-oh... :shocked: I gotta run!