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Just changed my Air Filter (2016 RT) I removed 7 pieces of plastic , just to get to the Filter. Glad they didn't hide the Gas Cap too. OH - wait a minute. They Did.
 
Some of those jobs can be fun when they build the product from the inside out. And when working on them, make sure to put towels over the "caves" so that the dropped part can be recovered. Ask me how I know. :roflblack:
 
That is one thing i like about the F3 models. Only have to remove service cover lid. 2 seconds. Than the 4 torque screws on the filter lid and there's the filter. The whole job was less than 10 minutes.
 
When I do these jobs on my '16 RT, I have all the goodies on hand to do as much maint. as possible at the same time, air, oil, filters, etc....And, since I have the plastics off, I spray things down well with some Simple Green and wash the crud out while I'm in there. Good peace of mind and satisfaction. When you know what you're getting into and what to expect, it makes it far less stressful and satisfying. When I changed the oil on a buddy's 17 RT, I noticed he had one less panel, and my wife's 19 RT was the same way. I believe they call it an acoustic panel (between the outer shell and the motor that needs to come off to access oil filter)
 
Committee

I have long thought that BRP builds their products by committee,
and on those committiees none of the people have ever had to repair
or service anything that has an engine or wheels attached.
I am also sure they have never ridden a motorcycle type vehicle.
Only my opinion, and you all know about opinions....
Many Brands ( posting ) is right they love to bury things, a good example is my good old 2008 GS
good luck replacing the battery, first you remove the left saddle bag, then the saddle bag mount brackets
raise the seat and then remove the plastic body panels on the left side and if you are lucky you will find
the battery under the seat on it's side at an angle.... I got tired of going through all that and moved the battery
up front in the front trunk where it should have been in the first place...
 
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Just changed my Air Filter (2016 RT) I removed 7 pieces of plastic , just to get to the Filter.
Sure, it might be a bit aggravating, but look at the big picture. The manual says you change the filter every 19,000 miles. How many miles do you ride per year?

If this is your first air filter change, the bike is four years old. You get to look forward to doing it again FOUR YEARS LATER.

So that averages out to what, about 8 minutes a year? :dontknow:

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A story I heard years ago involved John Deere. They were getting serious about product quality so to design a new combine they assembled a team of engineers, farmers, dealers, and production workers, to do the design. Then they all went down to factory floor to build the prototype. My friend said you should have seen the blue air that resulted when the engineers started to try the build the machine they had just designed! :roflblack:
 
When I do these jobs on my '16 RT, I have all the goodies on hand to do as much maint. as possible at the same time, air, oil, filters, etc....And, since I have the plastics off, I spray things down well with some Simple Green and wash the crud out while I'm in there. Good peace of mind and satisfaction. When you know what you're getting into and what to expect, it makes it far less stressful and satisfying. When I changed the oil on a buddy's 17 RT, I noticed he had one less panel, and my wife's 19 RT was the same way. I believe they call it an acoustic panel (between the outer shell and the motor that needs to come off to access oil filter)

MY miles per year have gone down a bit. so I only change the Oil Filter once a year ..... That access panel means a few other pieces have to be removed first .... so I made a 3 inch " access " hole near the filter cap. works great and so far no difference in heat on the outside panel..... I could probably do the same for the Air Filter, but I have K&N so it delays this chore ..... Mike :thumbup:
 
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