Who Uses Shell Rotella T-6

[spyder01]

I also use the t6-5/40 and will have 30 k on mine after this weekend.Update,I went to the bobistheoilguy forum and saw that there is a lot of argument about whether the t6 540 is actually is a jaso ma/ma2 or if they called it that without paying for the license to call it that.Either way Ive got a 2 gl jug that im gonna use bc I feel like it.

 

[trong]

I realize this is a Shell oil topic, but anyone considering running Mobil 1 CAR oil should do so with caution, reading the label to ensure it is wet clutch approved via a JASO MA or MA2 rating.
The Mobil 1 10w40 Sportbike motorcycle oil is used by many here with good experience.

Those that chose the Shell T6 have reported good experiences also.

The only thing to watch for is the API Donut with label saying "RESOURCE CONSERVING", most oils with viscosity of xW30 or less will have that since they have friction modifier(s) added. Oils with xW40 and higher don't have friction modifier(s) and they are safe for use in engines with wet clutch.
Also the Rotella T6 5W40 is excellent engine oil but it is not certified to use in gasoline engines per API Service classification, reading the label, it is designed for Diesel Engines with certain additives. I'm sure Rotella T6 oil won't harm Spyder engines - vTwin or Triple - on long run but why take a risk just to save a few dollars on your $20K plus toy.
Just my 2cents.

Cheers!

 

[redrazor]

Any issues with this product and do you use 5-40 or 10-40

:thumbup: I just bought a 2.5 gallon jug of Shell Rotella T6 5wt-40 for $75.00. At my local O'Rileys. That's 10 qts. !! Enough for the next 2 oil changes. I could barely lift the jug off the shelf.
Just following the recommendations of many site members. At $7.50 per quart; that is a whole lot better than a lot of the "premium" oils at 10-12 dollars per quart. :yes:

 

[troop]

If you're looking for a bargain oil, just head down to your local Walmart. Made by Warren Oil Co.. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Te...-40-4-Stroke-Motorcycle-Oil-1-Quart/556497072

 

[WisconsinDavid]

I bought a rotella t6 5/40 at FleetFarm in Wisconsin last month for 40. Shell had a 20 rebate on the size, so it was 20 for 2.5 gallons. I use Rotella in the Spyder and Deere mower, and my other small engines too. It has run well in all of them and its nice not having different oils for each machine on the shelf. When touring I buy a 1 quart Rotella available at Menards for handy top ups as my 998 does use a bit of oil on long tours (and always has). When buying Rotella always check the Shell site for possible rebates.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

The only thing to watch for is the API Donut with label saying "RESOURCE CONSERVING", most oils with viscosity of xW30 or less will have that since they have friction modifier(s) added. Oils with xW40 and higher don't have friction modifier(s) and they are safe for use in engines with wet clutch.
Also the Rotella T6 5W40 is excellent engine oil but it is not certified to use in gasoline engines per API Service classification, reading the label, it is designed for Diesel Engines with certain additives. I'm sure Rotella T6 oil won't harm Spyder engines - vTwin or Triple - on long run but why take a risk just to save a few dollars on your $20K plus toy.
Just my 2cents.

Cheers!

Where did you see that T-6 is NOT CERTIFIED for use in gasoline engines ???????? ..... Thanks Mike :thumbup:

 

[trong]

This should be The End of any 710 discussion.

Cheers!

 

[Peter Aawen]

Check this document out

https://rotella.shell.com/en_us/pro...e31c1a45ba16a94dded7f4aea73/t6-sae-15w-40.pdf

Rotella T6 is CK-4 certified but nowhere in the document mentions that is is SN or SM certified for gasoline engine. Not even JASO MA certified. It just happens that diesel engines require higher viscosity oil and this T6 is one of the best out there for diesel engines.
Motorcycle owners see this full synthetic T6 in the viscosity that matches the requirement of motorcycle engines with wet clutch, at very good price compare to motorcycle oil, so most of them switched to this T6. Many motorcycle owners swear by this oil. And I somewhat agree. I used that T6 once in my '13 RTL until last spring when I changed the engine oil I switched back to Mobil1 5W40 European car formula. Engines in the Spyders were designed and manufactured in Europe by Rotax so using Euro formula oil seems to be a logical choice.
No Offend to anybody here, just my own experience and opinion.

Cheers!

But doesn't the yellow 'Specifications & Approvals' block on page 2 of that linked document ^^ include both JASO and MA/MA2 in T6's listed approvals?? :dontknow:

Besides, most diesel oils are not only 'suitable' for gasoline engines, but pretty much meet & exceed all the relevant gasoline lubricant standards, with the addition of added cleaning/detergent agents & anti-foaming properties.... So generally, if the viscosity range is appropriate, a diesel oil is not only 'suitable' for a gasoline engine, it's even better than 'just suitable'! hyea:

But it is your Spyder, you can run what you like - me, I usually run a full synthetic 10W40 Penrite oil that's specifically suited for 4 stroke wet clutch motorcycle engines (with JASO & MA cert's ) AND it's ALSO listed as being "suitable for most petrol, diesel, or racing internal combustion engines" that require oil in the same viscosity range besides! :thumbup:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Check this document out

https://rotella.shell.com/en_us/pro...e31c1a45ba16a94dded7f4aea73/t6-sae-15w-40.pdf

Rotella T6 is CK-4 certified but nowhere in the document mentions that is is SN or SM certified for gasoline engine. Not even JASO MA certified. It just happens that diesel engines require higher viscosity oil and this T6 is one of the best out there for diesel engines.
Motorcycle owners see this full synthetic T6 in the viscosity that matches the requirement of motorcycle engines with wet clutch, at very good price compare to motorcycle oil, so most of them switched to this T6. Many motorcycle owners swear by this oil. And I somewhat agree. I used that T6 once in my '13 RTL until last spring when I changed the engine oil I switched back to Mobil1 5W40 European car formula. Engines in the Spyders were designed and manufactured in Europe by Rotax so using Euro formula oil seems to be a logical choice.
No Offend to anybody here, just my own experience and opinion.

Cheers!

Well YOU really need to read the Label that you just posted a LINK to : The yellow spec box says JASO DH-2 , MA / MA-2 .... if a Spyder is used in a mostly VERY warm climate I would use the 15w-40 weight but most here only use the 5W or 10W - 40 weight. I suggest you change your posts, it's mis-information ...... thanks ... Mike :thumbup:

 

[ekusafetyman]

Anyone using Shell Rotella T6 Full Synthetic 15w-40 in their Spyder RT? I see that it is rated for motorcycle clutches.

 

[Woodaddict]

A lot of us Spyder riders do. But T6 is 5W-40, unless that's a typo, or T6 comes in 5W and 15W, being not aware of 15W of T6. I also use it in my Honda NT700V. Cheaper alternative is to buy it in 5-gallon containers rather than quart size.

 

[CloverHillCrawler]

I get the T-6 15w-40 in the 2.5 gal at walmart and filters from lamonster.

Only issue I have seen is with colder weather (below 30 deg. f) if I don't let the spyder warm up first it will want to stall from taking off from a stop other than that no other issues.

 

[tibadoe]

I will be using T6 on my upcoming oil change. Glad I stocked up before shrink-flation rolled around.

 

[CloverHillCrawler]

Damn didn't realize I was replying to a 3 year old thread. Sorry.

 

[Mikey]

We have all done it at least once!!!:2thumbs:

 

[CloverHillCrawler]

 

[Woodaddict]

Damn didn't realize I was replying to a 3 year old thread. Sorry.

you probably replied to the new post, then Peter merged them!!!! starting at #30

 

[bikerbillone]

Rotella T6 5/40, I've not been able to find 10/40 or I would use it. I've often wondered if Rotella T5 blend 5/40 would be OK but haven't tried it. If I'm gonna get up under there and go through the motions, might as well go for the best. I've also thought about T6 15/40 since I live in FL and it gets hot. I'd like to quite that annoying 'clunk', but I don't think that's gonna happen. I know, as Peter says, "Ride more, think less", or something like that. After all, this is an 'oil thread', but I like oil threads.

 

[PMK]

While many run and like Shell Rotella T6 I still remain a fan of the Mobil 10W40 Racing 4t motorcycle oil.

For comparison, Mobil 1 10W40 Racing 4t motorcycle oil is currently ranking at #136, essentially the #1 highest rated motorcycle oil acceptable for a 1330 Spyder engine and gearbox. The test data value came in at 93,661 psi.

Shell Rotella T6 5w40 ranked as #261 at 67,804 psi.

If there are other motorcycle capable oils, with an acceptable viscosity and wet clutch rated, they may be listed but I did not notice them.

Difficult blog to follow, but scroll down and the list of tested oils is long and impressive. No, not every oil is tested either.

Ultimately though, I understand how many of you must balance frugality as part of oil change costs. With that Shell Rotella T6 costs less, but is also a lesser quality oil. Makes no never mind what oil you run, simply sharing a very good and accurate, independent ratings test, by a qualified person.

https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/motor-oil-wear-test-ranking/

 

[troop]

Following threads on BITOG, Shell Rotella T6 5w40 has a reputation of quickly shearing down in shared sump bikes. Castrol Power 5w40 full syn also has a history of quicker than average shearing in shared sumps. Maybe that's a characteristic of 5W oils in motorcycle use? I get that people like Rotella T6 as it shows MA/MA2 rated on the jug, plus it can be had for $22/gallon from Wally world. That said, I have been a fan of both M1 10w40 4T and Amsoil 10w40 metric m/c oil for years and will continue using them. In fairness to Rotella T6, I have never heard of any oil related motor problems...