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Where to get a 1330 engine?

Being in the same age cohort as the previous owner I remember cleaning and replacing copper electrode spark plugs rather more often than 48K miles. And 12,000 is often a milestone. So maybe the previous owner wanted a look-see before deciding on cleaning or replacement.
 
I'm in the same time period and my SWAG is the piston had failed when the dealer said there was no compression and putting new plugs in, was a way out without an engine tear down. A 3 cylinder will run on 2 cylinders and it looks like it was run after the damage until the piston damge lost a big enough piece to stop the rotation. Just an opinion but doesn't matter at this stage.

I have not replaced an engine in a Spyder but I am wondering if the OP should see if the engine comes with the ECM just in case there is a some difference in programming between the donor Spyder and his??
 
AndysF3S said:
I'm in the same time period and my SWAG is the piston had failed when the dealer said there was no compression and putting new plugs in, was a way out without an engine tear down. A 3 cylinder will run on 2 cylinders and it looks like it was run after the damage until the piston damge lost a big enough piece to stop the rotation. Just an opinion but doesn't matter at this stage.

I have not replaced an engine in a Spyder but I am wondering if the OP should see if the engine comes with the ECM just in case there is a some difference in programming between the donor Spyder and his??
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Great idea. I would assume that they could use the current ECM, since the engines are the same. Thoughts?
 
BertRemington said:
Peter observed Here's a scenario. The previous owner performed the spark plug change. There are three Torx Flange Screw M6 X 20 holding the three Ignition Coil Ass'y Includes 5 to 6 in place https://www.canamseadooskidooparts.com/oemparts/a/cam/546f752ff870022084623c76/valve-cover. When either disassembling or reassembling the ignition coils, he removed/installed the screws one at a time rather than all at the same time. This leaves an open hole not plugged by an ignition coil. A screw dropped into Cylinder #2. He didn't notice and thought he lost it on his garage floor. The gaskets on the ignition coils fit tightly enough plus the fit on the spark plug cap is tight enough to prevent the ignition coil from backing out. Maybe he had a spare M6 screw most likely not. And that is the cause of the thread marks and divots.

Anyone else want to offer a scenario?

BTW there's a lesson-learned here. When I changed my spark plugs I always had all three ignition coils in place when removing/installing those screws. Open holes are a small parts magnet.:D
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Those bolts will not fit down into the hole. The spark plug holes are less than 8mm and the bolts are much larger than that.
 
Does the engine have to be specific if you have semi-automatic? All the engines I see online only say 6 speed, without reference to semi-automatic or clutch.

Ready to buy an ebay engine,... just need to know that.

Both say SE6 in the ad but look very different.
See the pics below. Both 1330 engines.

s-l1600 (1).jpg. s-l1600.jpg
 
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Peter Aawen said:
C'mon guys, play nice! Last 'warning'! :lecturef_smilie:
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:agree: This has been an interesting subject to say the least. The moderators are wanting to keep this site friendly to all. There is no reason to trade barbs back and forth. There are a couple other sites out there where the "wise guys" rule. Rather than being user friendly, they are not helpful to Spyder owners in general. You can even find a few people who have been banned from this site for just such behavior.

Let's keep it informative and save the "wise guy" barbs for other sites. Thanking you all in advance. :bowdown:
 
Scottncol said:
Great idea. I would assume that they could use the current ECM, since the engines are the same. Thoughts?
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Regardless of where you get an engine, you REALLY NEED to keep your existing Engine Control, Transmission Control, and Dash/Console Modules unless you also change pretty much the rest of the bike!! Your Control Modules are tailored to the Spyder you have - it's not too hard to use BUDS to re-programme them to accept a different engine, probably not even necessary at all if you only change the short motor and stay with the same SE6 gearbox type; but it'll be a SERIOUS PAIN if not completely impossible to make work if you happen to get & install an ECM, a TCM, or a dash/console that comes off a Spyder with a different rear sprocket - and given the year & model of your existing Spyder, that's a pretty high risk!! :shocked:

So sure, get a new/replacement engine/trans assembly if that's the way you want to go, but I'd suggest that you DO NOT use any other ECM, TCM, or Dash/Console module without making sure that EVERYTHING else between your bike & the donor bike is identical! :lecturef_smilie:

Ps: And unless you want to open up yet another absolutely steaming can of worms, it'll be a whole lot easier to do an engine swap if you get another SE6 - unless it's absolutely unavoidable, you really don't want to try to graft in all the semi-auto clutch & shifter arrangements! :banghead:
 
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If I am looking directly at the gear box on a Spyder, is there a way to tell the difference between the manual and semi-automatic?

i am looking for engines on ebay and they are all 1330's but the gear box looks different and there nothing in the description of the engine that tells me if its manual or semi.
 
Hello Scott, I have found this so interesting. As I have mentioned earlier, I believe that you got a steal if the price was right for the :spyder2: to start with, even if you have to go through a bit of pain now. So when you get it sorted out and running you will have a good machine; the only thing that makes me cringe is the tow bar on your F3S that I have seen in the picture, as I don't believe they are suited to tow, unlike the F3T or RT's which have that ability, but as I mentioned that's just my opinion.
 
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Hello Scott, I have found this so interesting. As I have mentioned earlier, I believe that you got a steal if the price was right for the :spyder2: to start with, even if you have to go through a bit of pain now. So when you get it sorted out and running you will have a good machine; the only thing that makes me cringe is the tow bar on your F3S that I have seen in the picture, as I don't believe they are suited to tow, unlike the F3T or RT's which have that ability, but as I mentioned that's just my opinion.
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You have my word, as soon as I get this running, that is the first thing to go!
 
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Scottncol said:
If I am looking directly at the gear box on a Spyder, is there a way to tell the difference between the manual and semi-automatic?

i am looking for engines on ebay and they are all 1330's but the gear box looks different and there nothing in the description of the engine that tells me if its manual or semi.
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Check out Bert Remington's recommendation back in post #9 - He's put in the effort, gone out of his way to help you in researching this, and found that engine. It is out of a 2016 F3 with an 89T rear sprocket like yours, so as far as we can see, it should be a direct replacement for your current engine without any ECM, TCM, or Dash/Console mis-match issues...

Just sayin' ;)
 
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Check out Bert Remington's recommendation back in post #9 - He's put in the effort, gone out of his way to help you in researching this, and found that engine. It is out of a 2016 F3 with an 89T rear sprocket like yours, so as far as we can see, it should be a direct replacement for your current engine without any ECM, TCM, or Dash/Console mis-match issues...

Just sayin' ;)
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I agree. Great engine.
 
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