Where did all my oil go?

[AY4B]

First, to avoid any confusion, here is the official, correct information:

• There is currently - as on June 23rd 2015 - only 1 1330 ACE engine configuration available. 2014/15 RT and 2015 F3 all have the same engine.
• The required oil fill amount when changing oil and oil filter on the SE6 engine is 4.7L or 5.0Qt.
• An oil quantity correction was made after production to avoid adding too much oil after an oil change and have to siphon it out rather than add oil to correct the level. During an oil change the amount of oil removed and needed to be added is never exactly the same, this is why a recommended amount to be added initially is given and then the procedure to verify the final level is used. A new dipstick is not necessary since the oil level in the oil tank doesn’t change, only the method of adding the initial amount before final level verification. In other words, it's easier to add more oil if you underfill than to remove excess oil if you overfill.
• Service bulletin 2014-7 “Shop Manual Modifications” was published August 2014 indicating changes to the PDF (web) version which included Engine Oil Level Verification and Engine Oil and Oil Filter Change.
• It is normal for a small engine, which includes a wet clutch and gearbox sharing the same oil, to shear down 20-30% within 1000-1500 miles but this shear flattens out and stabilizes for the remaining normal use interval. The 1330 ACE engine has been extensively tested to guarantee that 9300 miles is a safe oil change interval.

http://www.lamonstergarage.com/news/f3-and-1330-oil-change-video/

 

[AY4B]

The Owners manual is not well written. It is confusing. I have changed my oil once. I added only 5 quarts but did not follow up with the rest of what it says. The next day I went on a ryde and when I got to the meeting spot, My Spyder was acting bad. Would not shift into first gear after gassing up. I finally hard shifted and I checked the oil. It was at the min mark!! I went ahead and went on the ride when I got home started a thread like this one. I added enough to get close to full but just under the last mark. I agree the oil level is hard to see on that dipstick. The shop towel trick is good advice.

In other words add 5 quarts. Then run it a while till it is at operating temp then proceed to the oil verification process, to keep from over filling. Some here prefer to get it right on full while others like Lamont run it somewhere in the middle.

 

[AeroPilot]

Thanks AY4B for the post and dates on the 1330 oil capacity

I didn't mean to step on anyones toes, but since I do all of our oil changes after the first dealer service, I like that I can buy a gallon jug plus one quart of oil, (plus a filter, and have a prescribed dose to get me changed and in good running order. I am probably on the tenth change and everyone likes to see their oil at their comfortable level. I think if you check your oil after a good ride, and after the idling period and your machine tells you all is fine, so are you. Ryde More, Worry Less.. Thanks again Ay4B!

I just ran to the loafnjug to fillerup. I'll get a better check when she gets home from her 40 mile commute tomorrow.

 

[newbert]

... The 1330 ACE engine has been extensively tested to guarantee that 9300 miles is a safe oil change interval.

Just to clear - According to this info, if you had your first service at 3000 miles, your next oil change isn't needed until the odometer reads 12,300, right?

Thanks.

 

[stebrock]

Just to clear - According to this info, if you had your first service at 3000 miles, your next oil change isn't needed until the odometer reads 12,300, right?

Thanks.

Correct or 1 year whichever comes first.

 

[AY4B]

Just to clear - According to this info, if you had your first service at 3000 miles, your next oil change isn't needed until the odometer reads 12,300, right?

Thanks.

Correct BUT a lot of Owners prefer to change their oil a lot sooner. Im thinking if 9300 miles on a blend is enough, then full synthetic should even be better.

 

[AeroPilot]

Great point Stebrock - Changing your oil once a year allows you to schedule service

Its a lot easier to get your preventative maintenance done by the shop in their slower "off-season" and you wont have to down the bike while waiting for an appointment in May or June. It depends on where you live or what lines of Offroad rec equipment your favorite dealer carries, but its more convenient to do some things like brake flushes and spark plug or filter changes with a November service...YMMV