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What Oil change schedule is right?
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Mazo EMS2
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I changed my wife's 900 at 1000 miles just for peace of mind. Good or bad, dumb or smart, recommended or not.....In the end, they write the manual for a reason I suppose, but we don't even get 6000 miles in a season, so it was gonna get changed either way. I changed it after the first 1000, then again last fall before storage with 4400 on it. Too soon, probably....don't care. It's your ride, do what feels best for you
BLUEKNIGHT911
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:agree: ... with your logic ..... 99.9 % of the possible debris in the engine oil is going to appear soon after the engine is put into use ..... Mike
hyea:bikerbillone
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Break in oil change at 6K miles on the Ryker and 3K miles on the 20 RT, that sounds a bit odd in comparison. I'm new at this Spyder business, but hopefully I'm learning.
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
The 500 mile suggestion is a carry over from the days of the 998's. They had a recommended break-in service at 600 miles or so.
Break in service for the 1330's is recommended at 3,500 or so. I go by what the manual says.
Not a Ryker owner so don't have the manual handy.
Changing oil early will NOT hurt the engine though, but it may hurt the pocketbook. :bowdown:
Break in service for the 1330's is recommended at 3,500 or so. I go by what the manual says.
Not a Ryker owner so don't have the manual handy.
Changing oil early will NOT hurt the engine though, but it may hurt the pocketbook. :bowdown:
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shakin_jake
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~~~just purchased a 2020 Ryker Rally (March 15th). The official factory 1st oil change recommendation is 6000 miles or after the first 12 months, which ever occurs 1st
As others here have posted, it's your machine, do what you like
Although we can ride 51 out of 52 weeks a year here in north central Florida, I doubt I'll be able to accumulate 6 K miles within 12 months time, due to my obnoxious work schedule so, in all likelihood, I would imagine Jake is going to do his first oil change (on my 2020 Ryker Rally) 0n or about March 1st 2021. YMMV, Yada Yada
Others may have better and different ideas
Best,
Jake
Reddick Fla.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while
shakin_jake
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~~~true, but it's a bit of a waste of money. I don't think I mentioned this previously, I like and will participate in oil threads=
As I mentioned in my previous post, the Ryker service manual states that the break in oil change interval is 6K (6000) miles, or after the first 12 months, which ever comes first. I also stated that I will likely follow BRP's recommendation. I have now owned my 2020 Ryker Rally for two months and noticed the odometer reading is 1K (1000) miles, so it looks like it will take me a year to reach the recommended break in oil change interval
All that said, could I change the motor oil and oil filter early? Absolutely, but why bother? I think we can all agree that Can Am's or who ever builds their motors, that this technology (application of knowledge) is forever marching forward, right? So in that line of thinking the engineers must feel, since their first oil change recommendation is 6000 miles, and that is also every subsequent 0il change interval as well, that their current engine construction is sound enough, that they state this break in oil change interval as their recommendation. Like the man said- "if it's good enough for BRP, it's good enough for me". Still, there are those that feel 'they must change their engine oil & filter, beforehand. Forgive them Father for they art thou hasty=
<LOL>Seriously though, more power to those that want to change oil early and often, the oil companies and their subsidiaries love
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BajaRon
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~~~true, but it's a bit of a waste of money. I don't think I mentioned this previously, I like and will participate in oil threads=
As I mentioned in my previous post, the Ryker service manual states that the break in oil change interval is 6K (6000) miles, or after the first 12 months, which ever comes first. I also stated that I will likely follow BRP's recommendation. I have now owned my 2020 Ryker Rally for two months and noticed the odometer reading is 1K (1000) miles, so it looks like it will take me a year to reach the recommended break in oil change interval
All that said, could I change the motor oil and oil filter early? Absolutely, but why bother? I think we can all agree that Can Am's or who ever builds their motors, that this technology (application of knowledge) is forever marching forward, right? So in that line of thinking the engineers must feel, since their first oil change recommendation is 6000 miles, and that is also every subsequent 0il change interval as well, that their current engine construction is sound enough, that they state this break in oil change interval as their recommendation. Like the man said- "if it's good enough for BRP, it's good enough for me". Still, there are those that feel 'they must change their engine oil & filter, beforehand. Forgive them Father for they art thou hasty=
Seriously though, more power to those that want to change oil early and often, the oil companies and their subsidiaries love
I would agree if the engineers were the only ones with input on the final decision. But they are not. Marketing and the bean counters have a good deal of influence on what finally comes out in the manual. I'm not saying that it is a bad idea to wait 6,000 miles on the Ryker. Just that compromise is always a good possibility. So, I don't consider what the manufacture recommends to always be the best possible scenario. This is the reason I plan to use automotive engine oil in my Ryker. It does not have a wet clutch. So I do not plan to use a more expensive, less efficient lubricant. Not saying anyone else should do the same. But it makes very logical sense when you look at the facts.
Like is mentioned above. It's your ride. You paid for it. You do what you think best.
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SportsterDoc
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6,000 miles to first oil change is most likely marketing driven.
Planning on no more than 3K, less, depending upon color of suspended particles.
Last 4 bikes had first oil and filter changes recommended generally at 600 miles.
At 600 miles, my Ryker 5W40 looked new.
Oil is cheap insurance.
For over 57 years of riding, the only engine failure was operator induced (high altitude jetting run sustained WOT at low elevation = hole in piston).
Dino oil: 3K intervals
Synthetic blend: 4K intervals
Pure synthetic: 5K intervals
No way I am going 6K or more between oil changes, even with pure synthetic.
BTW, the Ryker does not have a wet clutch, but 4T oil recommended, wonder why?
Riding long distances in remote/primitive areas, usually without cell service, I want to optimize reliability.
Planning on no more than 3K, less, depending upon color of suspended particles.
Last 4 bikes had first oil and filter changes recommended generally at 600 miles.
At 600 miles, my Ryker 5W40 looked new.
Oil is cheap insurance.
For over 57 years of riding, the only engine failure was operator induced (high altitude jetting run sustained WOT at low elevation = hole in piston).
Dino oil: 3K intervals
Synthetic blend: 4K intervals
Pure synthetic: 5K intervals
No way I am going 6K or more between oil changes, even with pure synthetic.
BTW, the Ryker does not have a wet clutch, but 4T oil recommended, wonder why?
Riding long distances in remote/primitive areas, usually without cell service, I want to optimize reliability.
new to 3 wheels. my last 3 2 wheel bikes, first service was at 600 miles per manual then every 4k after. my 150cc kymco, first service was at 200 miles per manual and every 2k miles. its cheap though. no filter, just a screen and 1 qt 10w40.
so yeah, first service at 6k is odd to me but thats what they recommend. i will see what it looks like a 1k and keep an eye on it.
Dave
so yeah, first service at 6k is odd to me but thats what they recommend. i will see what it looks like a 1k and keep an eye on it.
Dave
bikerbillone
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Change oil every 3K miles, I don't think so, but different strokes.
Bean counters have nothing to do with when the recommended oil changes are--people give accountants way too much credit. Can-Am made their profit when the bike was sold--no one who can afford these toys said "nope, that first oil change at 600 miles is too rich for my blood--I won't be buying this." What bean counters do care about is the cost of warranty repairs--so I'd suspect they'd push for an earlier first oil change if it meant fewer warranty claims. I don't even think marketing cares much--their job is to get people excited enough to buy Spyders and Rykers. I've never seen an ad that said "but wait, there's more! The first oil change isn't until 6,000 miles or 1 year, whichever comes first!" followed by someone saying "that's all I needed to hear! Take my money!" SMH
I have seen this on the website, but it's odd that it's not in the owners or shop manuals. Those say 6,000 (Ryker) or 3,000 (Spyder) miles or 1 year.
Break in oil change
Yes it is a little vague about where it is and where it isn’t published about the 200 mile break in oil and filter change. But it is always good to change any new vehicle break in period oil .
Yes it is a little vague about where it is and where it isn’t published about the 200 mile break in oil and filter change. But it is always good to change any new vehicle break in period oil .
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Hey Tucker, thanks for drawing this to our attention, thanks for drawing this to our attention, but looking at the quoted post here & your later posts listed below, it can be confusing to readers as to exactly which post in the thread you're actually replying to?!? :dontknow:
So it might pay you to use 'Reply with Quote' a little more often - yeah, I know I generally suggest that there's generally no need to Quote IF you are replying to the last post in the thread (as you did with Azbronco's post at your post #16
) but if you're replying or referring to a post further up/earlier on in the thread than that last post/the post immediately prior to yours (as it looks like you did in your posts # 12, 17, & 18 :dontknow: ) either using Reply with Quote or at least mentioning the specific detail &/or the poster's username that you're replying to will help readers follow what you're on about. :thumbup: Thanks. :cheers:
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