Well i didn't expect that

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

The RTL sure does ride like crap in the twisty's. Lot of bragging going on with the Bajaron sway bar and he makes adjustable spacers for the front shocks as well. New expensive shocks are out of the question for me (wowsa on the price of those things). Best I just ride for now and figure out what needs fixed through warranty first then get into the upgrades. Very smooth ride on bumpy roads, don't wanna lose that. I'm just rambling and doing my homework...

Checking the list of posts you've made here I see you made no posts for 10 years. If that also indicates you were not reading the forum posts in that time you have missed many, many, discussions with new riders who have had exactly the same concern you have. Three things you need to do. First, review this thread if you haven't already: https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums...t-Do-s-and-Do-Nots-quot-for-new-Spyder-owners. Second, realize you need to leave much of your two wheel and conventional trike experience and riding practices behind. The Spyder is just plain different and requires a different approach to riding. Third, as others have said, give yourself time and hundreds of miles to become one with your Spyder. After miles of experience and having an open mind to the differences of a Spyder, almost no new rider continues to be bothered by the cornering characteristic of the Spyder. In fact they discover a new thrill in cornering. There is no reason to expect your future experience to be any different from nearly all other new riders!

Pay heed to the recommendations about laser alignments, tire pressures, handlebar gripping, and body shifting. Before long you will thoroughly LOVE the Spyder experience! :2thumbs:

 

[bikerbillone]

Well said Idaho, and good advice.

 

[Rider Steve]

Checking the list of posts you've made here I see you made no posts for 10 years. If that also indicates you were not reading the forum posts in that time you have missed many, many, discussions with new riders who have had exactly the same concern you have. Three things you need to do. First, review this thread if you haven't already: https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums...t-Do-s-and-Do-Nots-quot-for-new-Spyder-owners. Second, realize you need to leave much of your two wheel and conventional trike experience and riding practices behind. The Spyder is just plain different and requires a different approach to riding. Third, as others have said, give yourself time and hundreds of miles to become one with your Spyder. After miles of experience and having an open mind to the differences of a Spyder, almost no new rider continues to be bothered by the cornering characteristic of the Spyder. In fact they discover a new thrill in cornering. There is no reason to expect your future experience to be any different from nearly all other new riders!

Pay heed to the recommendations about laser alignments, tire pressures, handlebar gripping, and body shifting. Before long you will thoroughly LOVE the Spyder experience! :2thumbs:

Way back then they were having to many problems with the electronic steering and no fixes from the factory so I bought a 29 ford and played with that and a 27 ford. Now it's time to trike again and play with this one. I've already checked many things out with the spyder and believe it will become a great riding machine once I get things sorted out. I like selling one toy to buy another. Just the way I am.

 

[mecsw500]

I learned a lot on how to ride my RT LTD from the Can Am rider training. Gave me much more confidence in the bike in corners. Practice made it all come together for me.

Ridden as a touring machine, I think if set up correctly, the suspension, tires and so forth are generally fit for purpose. Could they be better, of course, but for OEM items on a new vehicle these days I personally don't think they are as bad as some claim.

One thing I think helps initially is following the suggestions of "Dave Moss from 2-Clicks Out". Brake, turn, power out is his motto for new track riders and I think it applies quite well for new Spyder riders too, certainly for the RT Limited anyway.

If I get my braking all done before the turn, run through the apex of the turn on a constant throttle and then power out once past the apex it seems quite stable and you get less of that tippy "i'm going to high side" feeling. The steering is heavier and initially less intuitive than the counter steering on a regular motorcycle, but if you follow the "brake, turn, power out sequence" you end up doing the steering while not worrying about braking or powering out while you maneuver through the turn.

One thing I noticed is that the throttle has a very long throw. It is easy to be braking for the corner and still have the throttle not completely closed or as closed as you want it to be. You end up running the engine against the brakes and it doesn't brake fast enough or settle so well into the corner. Without using the full range of the throttle under braking I tend to overshoot the corner and end up braking into the corner.

 

[Rider Steve]

I guess I didn't explain myself very well, mostly I was referring to was how much it leaned during the turns. Sway bar should fix a good share of that (ain't no way in hell I'm spending 2000.00 on shocks). I'll get it sorted out as time goes by. Right now I'm waiting for it to warm up so I can go out and wash that pig. Delivery driver ran through some rain on the way down, I wanna wash it so I can see what color it is.

 

[Mikey]

A sway bar will make a world of difference for the body roll, it did on my old girl, but the set of Elka shocks was the icing on the cake, think I payed $650-700, I think! But you are right do one thing at a time and ride it to see how it feels to you!! Good Luck!

 

[mecsw500]

I guess I didn't explain myself very well, mostly I was referring to was how much it leaned during the turns. Sway bar should fix a good share of that (ain't no way in hell I'm spending 2000.00 on shocks). I'll get it sorted out as time goes by. Right now I'm waiting for it to warm up so I can go out and wash that pig. Delivery driver ran through some rain on the way down, I wanna wash it so I can see what color it is.

That's why I think getting all the braking done before the corner, it tends to make the nose dip and use up some of the travel in the front suspension. Then as you traverse through the apex of the corner quite a lot of the initial travel of the suspension is used up and the bike seems to lean less. When you are coming out of the apex the open throttle unloads the suspension but by then the amount of centrifugal is less and it accelerates in a flatter manner. If you brake late into the corner, the bike seems to lean a lot more as you traverse the corner as the turning part is started with the suspension unloaded at the front, allowing for more lean. Anyway, this seems to work for me.

 

[TicketBait]

The RTL sure does ride like crap in the twisty's. Lot of bragging going on with the Bajaron sway bar and he makes adjustable spacers for the front shocks as well. New expensive shocks are out of the question for me (wowsa on the price of those things). Best I just ride for now and figure out what needs fixed through warranty first then get into the upgrades. Very smooth ride on bumpy roads, don't wanna lose that. I'm just rambling and doing my homework...

Back when you joined Spyderlovers, my 2010 RTL had logged over 10K miles,
first full 12 months was 15K. Did I go through issues, yeah, like my first twisty
ride with a group of other spyder riders who were all on GS spyders, think I was
the only one then who had the touring version. Could I keep up with them, not
a chance, fine on the freeway but once we hit the mountains and little trails in
the San Gabriel mountains, I became exhausted. So I read posts here and most
were saying that the shocks were lousy and needed to be stiffer, and others were
saying that the Baja Ron sway bar added not only helped in twists on the RT but
also in windy conditions when passing a big rig and getting caught up in the draft.

So I purchased and had installed the best shocks money could buy from the write
up a fellow Spyderlovers "clueless " wrote about his experience and why he thought
these were the best.
"click:
https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?24394-Works-Performance-Shocks-Installed!

Wow after having mine installed and going on a canyon cruise. Was like cutting
through butter on the turns, not only could I keep up with the GS/RS crowd I could
pass and lead. With such good fortune I choose not to add the sway bar. 60K miles
later when I traded in my 2010 for a 2021 there had been vast improvements to
the shocks throughout the years. But I read so many posts here thanking Baja Ron
for his sway bar. So that was the first and only upgrade so far on my ride and turning
stability is not an issue for me.

If Rider Steve, if you are coming from two wheels to two up front that is the biggest
challenge for your mind to overcome. For me I hadno prior riding experience so
I learned quickly. With no counter steer to have to overcome I
probably learned much sooner than other experienced two wheelers.
Also did all the practice exercises in a large empty parking lot on Saturdays. (darn, can't find photo)
I also added highway brackets and found the turning much easier with
pushing with my legs into the turn. One other big help was adding a back rest securely
locked me into the drivers seat. So for the new RT's I would add a back rest and sway
bar and that should do it. Also like others have said experiment with the front tire pressure.
For me at 225 LBS I prefer 17.5psi up front. On my 2010 it was 15.5psi
I usually road solo. My first year I had a non working rear shock (didn't know) that I
was un aware was causing a horrible ride on long outings. Figured it out with the help
of BRP at Spyderfest. Ahh the good old days.

The photos below wherein the first "Ride for Hati" the earthquake in January 2010
Glendale CA. Harley Davidson and Berts Mega Mall held a charity ride in the rain.
The part afterward was covered with live bands and B- List celebrities:yes:

The next photo was a 4 day ride from Los Angeles to Reno and Tahoe with WestCoast
Spyders wow I was hooked. :firstplace:The camaraderie and pure devotion to the experience was
the best. Lots of discussion about what worked and didn't work with our spyders.

Ooops, the next photo was from 2012 Can-Am Spyder Owners Event held in Durango Colorado.

Ahh and what's a ride with out going PCH, (pacific coast highway 1) My wife joined me for that :dg2::riding:

Went with a group to the Reagan Library when they had a motorcycle display of all
the Historic cycles from the 1800's to the 40th president. Quite interesting.hyea:

Many trips and outings later, lots of friendships occurred. Have had the wonderful fortune
of visiting my brother in Cedar Park Texas and riding with him in the Round Rock area.

So Rider Steve, best of luck to you, and rack up many safe miles, the Ryde is an Adventure !

TicketBait

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I guess I didn't explain myself very well, mostly I was referring to was how much it leaned during the turns. Sway bar should fix a good share of that (ain't no way in hell I'm spending 2000.00 on shocks).

The sway bar can make a big difference. Also Baja Ron's shock adjusters can help. I'm using them rather than replacing the shocks. But it is going to want to lean in any case. You can temper it, but you can't eliminate it. That's just the physics of the machine going around a curve.

 

[Rider Steve]

The sway bar can make a big difference. Also Baja Ron's shock adjusters can help. I'm using them rather than replacing the shocks. But it is going to want to lean in any case. You can temper it, but you can't eliminate it. That's just the physics of the machine going around a curve.

Brp advertises it as a touring trike not a randy road racer for a reason.

 

[Peteoz]

I guess I didn't explain myself very well, mostly I was referring to was how much it leaned during the turns. Sway bar should fix a good share of that (ain't no way in hell I'm spending 2000.00 on shocks).

Yeah, I found that the sway bar fixed that on my ‘21 RT, Steve. I will only get shocks if stock can’t handle the potholes….and they are doing fine so far.

Pete