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Upshifts with turn signal switch

Gunner3773

Gunner3773

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Recently, I have noticed that my 2015 RT SE6 was upshifting occasionally when I wasn't expecting it. I thought I had maybe been bumping the shift lever. So, over the past couple of days I have been paying very close attention to make sure I am not bumping the shift lever with my thumb causing the unexpected upshift.

What I have found is that my Spyder is upshifting when I go to use the turn signal cancel function. Sometimes I can run through all the gears using the turn signal switch. Sometimes it is only a couple of gears that I can upshift. What I did notice is that if I manually downshift, I usually cannot upshift with the turn signal switch. Once I stop and start again, I can get the turn signal switch to upshift the transmission...sometimes all the gears, sometimes one or two gears.

Crazy...curious if anyone else has run into this problem before the dealer tells me that they were unable to get my bike to act up. I searched the forum and could not come up with anything. The only electrical accessory I have is the BRP hitch kit module and I have not hooked up a trailer to it yet. Only tested its function with a test light.

Gunner
 
Sounds like a trip to the dealer is in order. I hope it's still under warranty or you have a B.E.S.T. extended warranty as that left switch module is $385.
 
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Gunner3773 said:
Recently, I have noticed that my 2015 RT SE6 was upshifting occasionally when I wasn't expecting it. I thought I had maybe been bumping the shift lever. So, over the past couple of days I have been paying very close attention to make sure I am not bumping the shift lever with my thumb causing the unexpected upshift.

What I have found is that my Spyder is upshifting when I go to use the turn signal cancel function. Sometimes I can run through all the gears using the turn signal switch. Sometimes it is only a couple of gears that I can upshift. What I did notice is that if I manually downshift, I usually cannot upshift with the turn signal switch. Once I stop and start again, I can get the turn signal switch to upshift the transmission...sometimes all the gears, sometimes one or two gears.

Crazy...curious if anyone else has run into this problem before the dealer tells me that they were unable to get my bike to act up. I searched the forum and could not come up with anything. The only electrical accessory I have is the BRP hitch kit module and I have not hooked up a trailer to it yet. Only tested its function with a test light.

Gunner
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MYSTERIOUS UPSHIFTS - The SE trans cannot do this ..... I really think you are (somehow) accidently hitting the + paddle .... It doesn't take very much of a touch to up-shift .... at least mine doesn't ....... Try driving with only your RIGHT hand in 4th or 5th gear ..... and see if it happens .... I drive with only one hand Frequently ....... Just not at slow parking lot speeds ...... Mike :thumbup:
 
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Gunner3773 said:
Recently, I have noticed that my 2015 RT SE6 was upshifting occasionally when I wasn't expecting it. I thought I had maybe been bumping the shift lever. So, over the past couple of days I have been paying very close attention to make sure I am not bumping the shift lever with my thumb causing the unexpected upshift.

What I have found is that my Spyder is upshifting when I go to use the turn signal cancel function. Sometimes I can run through all the gears using the turn signal switch. Sometimes it is only a couple of gears that I can upshift. What I did notice is that if I manually downshift, I usually cannot upshift with the turn signal switch. Once I stop and start again, I can get the turn signal switch to upshift the transmission...sometimes all the gears, sometimes one or two gears.

Crazy...curious if anyone else has run into this problem before the dealer tells me that they were unable to get my bike to act up. I searched the forum and could not come up with anything. The only electrical accessory I have is the BRP hitch kit module and I have not hooked up a trailer to it yet. Only tested its function with a test light.

Gunner
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Odd indeed maybe instructing dealer tech a procedure to reproduce,
If you have cruse control, set it & then try the blinkers. If it is shifting not just blinker it will kick off cruise.
Ez 1 the tech. To follow & they very well could have. Are you putting excessive pressure on switch maybe :dontknow: pushing on other components internally, the manual downshift interruption of glitch sounds like something may be out of place. Good luck please let us know what is found
 
I seem to remember this or something similar coming up before. I can't find the previous thread about this. Maybe someone else can. If I remember correctly, I may not, you need a new left handlebar multifunction control.
 
Agree

:agree: there are a mess of wires in that command control. I would suspect the turn signal mechanism is shorting the paddle switch or wiring causing the shift. Have fixed many on bikes along with the others, horn button, starter buttons, kill buttons etc. This was back when they fixed things...:banghead: now just replace the whole thing..$$$
 
Gunner3773 said:
Recently, I have noticed that my 2015 RT SE6 was upshifting occasionally when I wasn't expecting it. I thought I had maybe been bumping the shift lever. So, over the past couple of days I have been paying very close attention to make sure I am not bumping the shift lever with my thumb causing the unexpected upshift.

What I have found is that my Spyder is upshifting when I go to use the turn signal cancel function. Sometimes I can run through all the gears using the turn signal switch. Sometimes it is only a couple of gears that I can upshift. What I did notice is that if I manually downshift, I usually cannot upshift with the turn signal switch. Once I stop and start again, I can get the turn signal switch to upshift the transmission...sometimes all the gears, sometimes one or two gears.

Crazy...curious if anyone else has run into this problem before the dealer tells me that they were unable to get my bike to act up. I searched the forum and could not come up with anything. The only electrical accessory I have is the BRP hitch kit module and I have not hooked up a trailer to it yet. Only tested its function with a test light.

Gunner
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I think you've got some sort of weird gremlins running around in the left multi-function switch. It's single printed circuit board, I believe, with all the switches activating PC board contacts. There may be some sort of electrical signal leakage going on on there. All the signals from that switch go to the various components via the CANbus. One possibility is that moisture has gotten inside and is short circuiting between the turn signal traces and shift control traces. Try taking it apart and cleaning and drying it out. Of course, your bike is new enough it's still under warranty, right? Let the dealer take care of it.
 
Back from the dealer

And the verdict is: replacement of left multi function switch. All strange shifting issues resolved! According to my dealer, when those switches go south, they usually do bizarre things with the turn signals. This is the first time they were able to upshift a Spyder with the turn signal cancel function.

All is well again. And I just used well over half of what I paid for the BEST warranty on my first BEST repair. The switch alone was almost $400.00. The dealer is trying to get BRP to cover the hazing headlights. That will be another $800.00 in parts. They originally thought I might also need a meter with the switch, but that was not the case.

Sure glad I spent the $$$ on the BEST warranty!

Gunner
 
Great news

Gunner3773 said:
And the verdict is: replacement of left multi function switch. All strange shifting issues resolved! According to my dealer, when those switches go south, they usually do bizarre things with the turn signals. This is the first time they were able to upshift a Spyder with the turn signal cancel function.

All is well again. And I just used well over half of what I paid for the BEST warranty on my first BEST repair. The switch alone was almost $400.00. The dealer is trying to get BRP to cover the hazing headlights. That will be another $800.00 in parts. They originally thought I might also need a meter with the switch, but that was not the case.

Sure glad I spent the $$$ on the BEST warranty!

Gunner
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Thats awesome that they were able to duplicate, fix and cover the issue with the best warranty! Glad we bought the additional 2 years as well. Even though we haven’t used it it’s a great peace of mind.
 
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