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Upgrading foglight bulbs
- Thread starter NautiBrit
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Probably yes but probably not a good idea
if you do not wanna spring for hid, cheapest way out would be white halgen bulbs at 35w at around 30 bucks. Not any brighter but prettier
anywho, yes the fog lights make spyder looks soooooooo much better as well as more visible.
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NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
The foglights work beautifully as they are...at least for us. They are not as focused as the headlights, so they project a wide path low and close to the front of the vehicle, as foglights should. Daytime visibility for others seeing you with the foglights lit, is better than the headlights, due to the wider path they cast. They are visible from more of an angle, where the headlights seem to disappear. If I wanted more light, I'd spring for the NMN HIDs for the headlights first, maybe foglights second, but the combination of stock headlights and foglights on the Spyder is already better than any motorcycle I have ever owned...and most here know that I've owned quite a few.
-Scotty
-Scotty
Firefly
Active member
If I had to do it again I wouldn't get the fog lights. After putting an HID kit in (not the BRP one) the main lights they are so bright the fogs are pretty useless.
For the same money you would spend on the fog lights you can get a decent HID kit for your headlights - that is what I would do.
For the same money you would spend on the fog lights you can get a decent HID kit for your headlights - that is what I would do.
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Fire,
The fog lights, as Scotty mentioned, do give off a wider band of light and they do give you more frontal visibility.
I would recommend them to everyone...plus, those holes being empty look silly....
Now, getting HID lights and perhaps HID fog lights would be even better...I don't know what you have but NMN's HIDs do get good marks here....guess I'll have to add those eventually too...
Firefly
Active member
I've heard of a few people having problems after adding HID's to the fogs - a bit too much draw at startup - so they had to make sure to NOT have them on when starting the bike. Not sure if they were wired wrong or what. I'm going to swap my fog bulbs for something that closer matches the color of the HID's as they look too yellow - but other than that they are 'okay'.
Not nearly as dramatic a change as the HID's. The fogs help fill a void right in front of the bike - like 3 feet in front - too close to really be of practical use when driving in my opinion - whereas the HID's light up way down the street.
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
You mentioned you don't have the BRP HID kit...don't blame you...way too expensive...
Did you go with NMN or another option?
As far as fog light colors, gotcha...you're gonna get a 'whiter' light bulb?
Firefly
Active member
I got a kit from Xenon Depot - works quite well. Yup - want a whiter look to the fogs so they better match the HID's. I didn't go real blue with the HID's - I think I went with like 5000K or something around there.
Firefly
Active member
I just checked and my HID lights from Xenon Depot were $220. Not exactly plug & play- but they work. At the time I think I looked at the ones from Evoluzione that were like $450 - so I went with the Xenon Depot ones. No problems with them - seem work great---
BUT------
I see the NMN ones are only $275 and are 100% plug and play - so if I had to do it again I would just get those instead.
BUT------
I see the NMN ones are only $275 and are 100% plug and play - so if I had to do it again I would just get those instead.
sabunim5
New member
Not nearly as dramatic a change as the HID's. The fogs help fill a void right in front of the bike - like 3 feet in front - too close to really be of practical use when driving in my opinion - whereas the HID's light up way down the street.[/quote]
The fogs are fully adjustable, just like the main headlights. Right now I have to adjust mine down because I am getting flashed at night ryding two up. Adjust yours and you will be able to see a lot further than 3 feet in front with your fog lights.
The fogs are fully adjustable, just like the main headlights. Right now I have to adjust mine down because I am getting flashed at night ryding two up. Adjust yours and you will be able to see a lot further than 3 feet in front with your fog lights.
Studybaker Bob
New member
I would not advise anyone to pay $600.00 for the BRP fog light kit, you have to strip your spyder down to the bare frame to install the 9 plug wiring harnes, 10 pages of instructions. Remove the trunk lid & trunk & instrument cluster & we think that is related intermittent no start problem.
They really do enhance the coolness of the Spyder.
They really do enhance the coolness of the Spyder.
Do you really have to take so much off just to install them? I have been looking for a substitute set but so far nothing fit right there and or look really cheep.
took me 4 and 1/2 hours to install the fog lights but if i had to do it again i would say 2 or 2 1/2.
sabunim5
New member
You might want to check this out It was posted by John in PA on another thread
I think you will be VERY pleased with PIAA StarWhites, or Extreme Whites. Amazon has very good prices on them. PIAA website says StarWhites are the best combo of light output and longevity. 55W draw, 100W equivalent output. BIG difference seat of the pants.
Also, PIAA 1100X dichroic driving lights are adaptable to the Spyder and REALLY light up the road. Less than $150. Need a little creativity for mounting.
Amazon.com: PIAA 1192 Platinum 1100X Super White... Here are a couple links to Pics of mine installed.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...g?t=1227931909
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...g?t=1227932071
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John Wells
Hollidaysburg, PA
You might want to check this out It was posted by John in PA on another thread
I think you will be VERY pleased with PIAA StarWhites, or Extreme Whites. Amazon has very good prices on them. PIAA website says StarWhites are the best combo of light output and longevity. 55W draw, 100W equivalent output. BIG difference seat of the pants.
Also, PIAA 1100X dichroic driving lights are adaptable to the Spyder and REALLY light up the road. Less than $150. Need a little creativity for mounting.
Here are a couple links to Pics of mine installed.
(couldn't get the image poster to work)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...g?t=1227931909
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...g?t=1227932071
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John Wells
Hollidaysburg, PA
if anyone is interested in PIAA extreme whites h7 bulbs, i have them for sale 40 bucks. i paid 84 at a local 4x4 store had them in my spyder for 2 weeks.
Firefly
Active member
Save your money up and just buy an HID kit if you have been looking at any of the 'white' bulbs.
None of the so-called 'white' bulbs like the Starwhites, Extremewhites, etc. are any brighter than stock bulbs - in fact since the glass has been tinted bluish-purple they usually put out less light.
I researched this in depth before deciding on going HID. To your eye they may appear 'brighter', but it is nothing more than optical confusion because the color of the light is different.
Marketing magic is all they have--- bunch of hype about a purple colored bulb.
None of the so-called 'white' bulbs like the Starwhites, Extremewhites, etc. are any brighter than stock bulbs - in fact since the glass has been tinted bluish-purple they usually put out less light.
I researched this in depth before deciding on going HID. To your eye they may appear 'brighter', but it is nothing more than optical confusion because the color of the light is different.
Marketing magic is all they have--- bunch of hype about a purple colored bulb.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Actually, the PIAAs are somewhat brighter, and somewhat whiter. They have a good reputation amongst conventional bikers, especially the touring crowd. They are not the tinted bulbs that are sold cheaply. The trade off is a slightly shorter life span. I have a PIAA Extreme White in my Beemer, and it helped light up the road ahead noticeably better than the stock bulb, but only for a distance of maybe 20-30 feet. This is nothing compared to true HIDs, of course.
Having foglights on our Spyder, I would say that there is not much to be gained from using such a replacement bulb. The foglight focus and low height make them useful mostly to be seen, and to see up close for maneuvering. They are somewhat useful in rain or fog, but not as good as true flat-beam foglamps. Converting them to HID would be much like installing driving lights, and certainly would be an improvement.
As to the headlights, a conversion to PIAA could only improve the tightly focused Spyder halogens a tiny bit, if at all. Best stock headlights I have ever had on a motorcycle. The other advantage that I have noticed with the PIAAs, better visibility to each side, will not be gained at all with the focused lens of the Spyder. It probably would be a waste of $55 to install the PIAAs in the headlights. Better to save up the $275 for the NMN HIDs, IMO.
-Scotty
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