upcoming Big Announcement.....hmmm, what's it going to be?

[Bob Denman]

Welcome out of the shadows and into the light! :2thumbs:

 

[docdoru]

A local Spyder dealer says it's a cross between the RS & RT. RT driver ergonomics and RS sporty styling (no rear saddlebags & trunk).

The new model is ST. :thumbup:

 

[Knarfoh]

New model like spyder ST or STS or ....:cus:

Bombardier unit to shut U.S. sport boat plant

The U.S. recession is still making waves at Bombardier Recreational Products Inc. The Quebec manufacturer will exit the sport boat business and shut down its plant in Illinois, eliminating 350 jobs.

“This is a difficult but necessary decision for BRP,” José Boisjoli, president and CEO of the Valcourt-based company, said in a statement.

The company invented the snowmobile and made a killing with its Sea-Doo watercraft. It started producing sport boats 18 years ago. But sales of the jet-driven boats, often used to water ski, never bounced back after the recession as cautious American consumers continue to put off non-essential spending.

BRP tried to sell the plant in Benton, Ill., that it inherited through its 1995 acquisition of Celebrity. It couldn’t find a buyer.
The sport boat business represents 3 per cent of the company’s sales, said Pierre Pichette, BRP’s public affairs vice-president. The company stopped disclosing its revenue after the Bombardier Inc. unit was bought out in 2003 by a consortium led by U.S. private equity fund Bain Capital. Bain partnered with the family of Laurent Beaudoin, who transformed Bombardier into a transportation multinational, and the Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec, Quebec’s biggest pension fund manager.

In a 2011 interview, Mr. Boisjoli was hopeful that annual sales would recover all the ground lost during the recession by 2013, and reach the $2.8-billion mark again. BRP’s revenues crashed 40 per cent within six months of Lehman Brothers Inc.’s collapse.

The difficult days are clearly not behind BRP, whose plans to return to the stock market after a five-year restructuring have been delayed. It is now pinning its future on the design of high-end power-sports vehicles such as the Spyder, a three-wheeled roadster that it launched in 2007.

This is the second decision that BRP has taken as part of the strategic review of its marine products. Last May, the company announced that it will transfer the assembly line of its watercraft from Valcourt to a new plant to be built in Mexico. It will also stop producing its own accessories and clothes and contract out the distribution of spare parts.

After the layoffs are taken into account, BRP employs 6,500 people, 3,000 based in Quebec, according to Mr. Pichette.

 

[zrc]

My guess is something that will further expand the market to newer riders. I do not think they are looking to raise profits with current lovers, while that is always a great thought, to recover the 3% they are losing and other issues, hitting a newer adjacent market would be the goal I would angle at if I were them. So what group has BRP / Can-Am not targetted well? I think the RS was a solid initial offering, which lead to the RT for the people looking to tour more than an RS could really do. So where will the line go if it is a new model. Making a between model would target the same group they already have, the people between an RS and an RT. Wouldnt make great business since, unless one model would be phased out and the new model be more effective in resources and production.

While I always love to speculate on what a company might be doing to please its current customer base, new models almost always target a new market.

 

[Bob Denman]

Bombardier unit to shut U.S. sport boat plant

Old news; this one's been out in here since last Friday... :shocked:

 

[Kratos]

My guess is something that will further expand the market to newer riders. I do not think they are looking to raise profits with current lovers, while that is always a great thought, to recover the 3% they are losing and other issues, hitting a newer adjacent market would be the goal I would angle at if I were them. So what group has BRP / Can-Am not targetted well? I think the RS was a solid initial offering, which lead to the RT for the people looking to tour more than an RS could really do. So where will the line go if it is a new model. Making a between model would target the same group they already have, the people between an RS and an RT. Wouldnt make great business since, unless one model would be phased out and the new model be more effective in resources and production.

While I always love to speculate on what a company might be doing to please its current customer base, new models almost always target a new market.

The question then lies......who or what is the new market to catch??

 

[ThreeWheels]

Maybe the Hybrid is ready for production ??

Of course I am totally speculating.

 

[Sarge707]

The new model is ST. :thumbup:

US Paints Listed Colors for ST and STS before I called the Lady asking about the Models and THEN the colors disappeared?:hun:

 

[BikerDoc]

Could be Sport Touring model Sports Touring Super model two slots between RS and RT

 

[Bob Denman]

Tick...tick...tick... :roflblack:

 

[spydaman60]

new market?

the new market brp should be looking to, is the 35 and under group. they want speed, and they want style.(sportier look) i'm just saying, that's the way i'd take it to next line! we'll see!opcorn:opcorn:opcorn::chat::chat::chat:ah it's september 23rd!

 

[cougar]

My prediction is: 2013 will be last year for the RS as we know it. 2013 will be the first year of the ST. The ST will remain 998 cc but tweaked to produce 10 to 15 more HP and additional torque. The RT will get very slight changes for 2013. In 2014 the RT will get a huge makeover to compete with the Goldwing segment for touring. A new V4 or possibly a H4 with a displacement of 1500 to 1800 cc, the new steering and shaft drive.

 

[jScotD]

shaft drive is nice.. having ridden BMW's since 1976

 

[NoJive]

shaft drive is nice.. having ridden BMW's since 1976

+1 for shaft drive. I live on a gravel road, and even with SpyderPops belt guard, I worry.

 

[NancysToy]

I love "Spyder Silly Season"! You guys are so creative. Glad you don't all have money on this stuff, because few of you seem to agree. :roflblack:

 

[ragoo879]

Since I don't have a Spyder yet, every year I make sure to sign up for the demo tour when it comes to town. Can't wait for this years.:yes:

 

[Rolffe-of-Six]

Killing Time Waiting for 9/23 and New Motor Daydreaming...

I've been killing time waiting for 9/23 and doing a little recreational computing. IF there is a new motor for 2013 and if it's a V4, like the Aprilia RSV4, I wondered what a "Spydered" version might look like. So, I compared the V2 Tuono motor to the existing Spyder V-twins and extrapolated the changes to the RSV4 motor. So, realizing that there may not be a new motor at all and that projecting changes for the 2008 motors to 2013 is probably a complete waste of time, see below for my wish list for a new motor...

							HP				Torque
					Aprilia Tuono		126.2				75
					2012 RS		106				77
					Change =		83.99%				102.67%
					Aprilia RSV4		180				85
							HP				Torque
					Aprilia Tuono		126.2				75
					2012 RT		100				80
					Change =		79.24%				106.67%
					Aprilia RSV4		180				85

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[Ga Blue Knight]

Minor styling Upgrades to the RS and RT line with the new ST priced higher than the RT Limited.

ST line to compete with the Goldwing Trike line item for item.

New colors. Same motor and transmission, belt drive but different programming to increas torque and shifting points.

New design on the trailer.

All the prices across the board will be higher.


All guesses on my part as I have "0" contacts at BRP.

 

[Bob Denman]

I love "Spyder Silly Season"! You guys are so creative. Glad you don't all have money on this stuff, because few of you seem to agree. :roflblack:

:agree: Tick...tick...tick... :roflblack:


Shaft drive...

 

[TicketBait]

Since I don't have a Spyder yet, every year I make sure to sign up for the demo tour when it comes to town. Can't wait for this years.:yes:

Curious if each time you take the demo, do you act like it is your first time? :roflblack: Do you ask the same questions? or tell them your still on the fence.