Turning VSS off

[Fly boy]

However, using certain aspects - refining your oustide-inside-outside technique and taking a later apex will alter the radius of the turn and put less force on the chassis, thereby quieting all the sensors down and reducing the effects of the VSS. Sometimes I'm hangin' off of 14 pretty good when I'm really on it! This also helps keep the bars straighter which quiets the steering sensor(s).

It does take some time and it can be pretty physical if you are pushing hard but you can get good results. Again, no comparison to the CBR but pretty fun!

So you are hitting the apex a little farther in the corner from what I am reading. I will start to play around with the apex at lower speeds and swee what it does. I am already leaning off the byke and I can tell it is helping.

In cornering slide forward and out into the corner to hold the inside wheel down. A stiffer spring setting can make the wheel lift easier - but you get less 'roll' and thus less 'bouncing rebound'. This is where shifting your weight comes in to hold her down.

Feathering the clutch in slow speed turns can help a bit... I've got it down to a pretty good science and can spin the Spyder 180 degrees on grass, a bit of loose gravel or wet pavement without the engine being killed.

But the nanny is really pretty amazing. Ride the Dragon like a Huligan in TN sometime and you'll never want to ride without her. As you power through the curves - hanging off the side for dear life--- when you probably can't get your foot on the brake if you wanted to--- you'll feel the nanny braking FOR you. It's pretty darn cool once you get used to it-- hitting the curves fast and having her do the braking without cutting the engine--- awesome!

I am 5' 6" 165, and again, the shox are set to middle from what Len told me. When I raise the wheel, I am pretty sure it is because I'm not leaning into the turn. I can feel the roll, but like how the soft shox absorb all the bumps, cracks, and holes.

I will have to try feathering the clutch. I am assuming, basically just before nanny kicks it, clutch it? Might help me learn fish tailing on her too

There have been a few corners where I am tucked in low, hitting apex, and I can feel it kick in. I feel in total control, back ends not kicking at all, maybe an inch or 2 of wheel lift and nanny kicks. I think this is the reason I am getting fed up with it. maybe I need to heed what Johnboy said.... this is NOT a sportbike. Then I might start enjoying it a little more.


Thank you all for the tips, and keeping the gripes/parenting down. I just needed the mindset that this is a fighter jet... Just not the F22 or f35.

 

[Firefly]

The clutch feathering only works at low speed fishtales from what I've seen.

Find a gravel road and go have some fun-- will give you a feel for what it can and cannot do. :thumbup:

Sounds like your shocks are set 'okay' at the middle (setting 3) --- but as you get more comfortable with the handling you might want to bump them up to setting 4.

It's really just a matter of getting some real seat time in and you'll find out how to have the most fun--- in a different way than your CBR...

 

[altonk]

Stiffen the shocks aftermarket swaybar

Corner under braking

 

[Raptor]

Another common thing that could be termed as a "mistake" is premature enrty, or performing your corner entry too soon. This will throw you wide on exit, thus forcing corrective action and PRESTO! - Enter Ms. Nanny!

You will definitely get there - I can almost feel your will to experiment from here! Have fun with it! That's the main thing, man. Just have fun and be safe! :thumbup:

 

[ArmyJoe]

Tower, this is ghostrider requesting a fly by...

That's a negative, Ghostrider. The pattern is full.

 

[Bob Denman]

Another common thing that could be termed as a "mistake" is premature entry, or performing... Enter Ms. Nanny!

:shocked: Oh! My mistake...(never mind...)

 

[Raptor]

:shocked: Oh! My mistake...(never mind...)

:roflblack: I didn't catch that until after I posted. You are bad, bob! :roflblack:

 

[altonk]

With my setup, wide low profile sticky tires all the way around and a turbo, I interact with the nanny a lot. Don't drive it like a bike, drive it like the top heavy three wheel sports car it is. In stock form there is way too much roll, I fixed it on mine with a stiffer roll bar and penske shocks. If your suspension is stock set the shock preloaded to max. The best technique for cornering stock that I've found is a two stage apex under trail braking
Approach a little wide
Just prior to the apex turn in enough to load up the frontend, then make the turn at the apex quick and straighten the bars, off the brakes, twist the throttle wide open and you can then three wheel drift on exit

 

[Justin]

Just move the 2 sensors to the front wheels. You'll need to make a bracket. Only reason it's there is because of a lot of beginners on the Spyder and lawyers would have a hey-day.imo. If you can ride you won't have a problem. Whip donuts on a dime and powerslide through curves. It's a whole different bike with it gone. On-Off would be ideal but just make sure you only ride it.

 

[Bob Denman]

:roflblack: I didn't catch that until after I posted. You are bad, bob! :roflblack:

hyea:hyea: The things that I could have said that woulda got me banned... :yes::yes::yikes::yikes::yikes::shemademe_smilie::sour:

 

[Marker]

Flyboy have you ever driven a snowmobile? If not have any buddies that do? I use alot of the same body english that I did for aggressive trail riding. So much that I wish our seating platform was designed more like a sled. Longer seat and full length running boards. Move you body weight into corners stretch your chin up over the inside fender as far as you can. Try to brake before entry easily accelerate at entry carry through if timing is right you can accel real hard during exit. I understand what you mean I'd be dead on a CBR but this is much more like a sled than a bike

Be safe and ride like its a rental

Jim:thumbup:

:agree: I am a new :spyder: ryder , when I am riding I feel like m riding a snowmobile.
I saw a video at the :spyder: booth at a bike showof the spyder Rs without a nanny or DPS and it was scary to watch the rider tring to drive the :spyder: at high speed the :spyder: was uncontrolable. Now I don't know know how much was BRP propaganda and how much was truth , for me my nanny is welcome to come along for the ride

 

[docdoru]

Just move the 2 sensors to the front wheels.

Starting with 2011 models, only 1 sensor:
2011 pic:

2008 pic:

 

[Justin]

Starting with 2011 models, only 1 sensor:
2011 pic:
2008 pic:

I forgot the 11 only has one now. So move one to the front.lol

 

[altonk]

Slam your Spyder into a apex under braking and VSS will point you where you turned the bars

It reacts faster than me no matter how many red bulls I drink

The best lap times I've had was with heavy VSS assist

 

[Fly boy]

all ready trying different things - smoothing out throttle, leaning in more.

Keeping the wheel down, and not spinning tire as much trying to leave the apex.


Thanks again all for the technique tips.

 

[jedd]

all ready trying different things - smoothing out throttle, leaning in more.

Keeping the wheel down, and not spinning tire as much trying to leave the apex.


Thanks again all for the technique tips.

:2thumbs::2thumbs:You may still want to do something with the nanny some day as do I, but I think we probably are faster with it than without. Overdriving is the largest hurdle in road racing with the nanny we are unable to overdrive to a point. But my personal desire is to have a momentary switch (like Nitrous) to do a donut or get controlled tire lift in corners, but without holding button nanny would be fully operable.

Very happy to year you are finding the fun factor and please keep us posted on your progress.

Jim:thumbup::thumbup:

 

[GeoffCee]

I read somewhere that until Bosch stepped in BRP was in doubt about manufacturing the Spyder as it was unridable and they considered it too dangerous to market. The VSS makes the Spyder a safe vehicle so bear this in mind and take care what you wish for. :sour:

 

[Bob Denman]

I read somewhere that until Bosch stepped in BRP was in doubt about manufacturing the Spyder as it was unridable and they considered it too dangerous to market. The VSS makes the Spyder a safe vehicle so bear this in mind and take care what you wish for. :sour:

:agree: