Tundra diesel?

[Cavman]

I had heard years ago that Toyota was going after Ford. That it might be the 2010 model for diesel. Then the economy took a dive.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2014/02/toyota-tundra-getting-cummins-diesel.html

 

[Bob Denman]

Why do they need it? :dontknow:
Are they coming out with something larger than a half-ton pickup truck?

 

[bruiser]

Waste of an engine. Tundra 2500 maybe? I did contract work at the Cummins plant in Whitakers, NC. where they assemble the Dodge diesel. Huge plant. They also assembled engines for large trucks and construction equipment as well. They did marine diesels for awhile but dropped that line. When the economy tanked, they laid off something like 700. They went from 3 shifts 24/7 to one 10 hour shift 4 days per week. The equipment they purchased from us had to have diesel engines. Ours were 3 cylinder Kubotas. They would not allow any gas engines in the plant.

 

[arntufun]

The article says the Nissan diesel version puts out over 300hp....... My gas 5.7 V8 Tundra already puts out 381hp and can pull the space shuttle. hyea:

 

[Bob Denman]

So why are they wasting time with oilburners? :dontknow:

 

[Rob Rodriguez]

The diesel is appealing in the Tundra for a very good reason in my opinion. MPG. The new Dodge 1500 with the diesel option is getting something like 28MPG. The gas half ton pickups don't even come close to this. I own a Tundra now. I'd buy a diesel version in a second.

 

[Lamonster]

The article says the Nissan diesel version puts out over 300hp....... My gas 5.7 V8 Tundra already puts out 381hp and can pull the space shuttle. hyea:

The advantage besides fuel economy is torque. The motor they are talking about has 500 ft lbs of torque and your motor has 400. If they put the motor that's in my Ram it will be 850 ft lbs stock. Torque does the work. :doorag:

 

[Cavman]

I have the 4.7 liter in my 2005 Tundra and it may get 16 mpg. I understand that the 5.7 liter, space shuttle towing version gets less mileage. If I tow something, I get less mileage.

Another wish I have for Tundras with the V-8 is a manual transmission. It just sucks we are stuck with an automatic. :banghead:

 

[Rob Rodriguez]

I have the 4.6 in my 2011. I get about 17 mpg with it. I tow a 6000lb camper and when towing it gets about 9-10 mpg. The 4.7 in the 2011 and the 4.6 in the 2005 are a completely different animal. My 4.7 has great power even when towing. I don't regret not buying the 5.7. I bought the 4.7 thinking the mpg would be better but not sure that is true?

I personally like the automatic. I don't think you will ever see a manual in the Tundra. The only way to better control the MPG is to use the automatic. With the government regs becoming tougher in the mpg area all the time looks like most of the manufacturers are using a specific engine/tranny combo to get the best numbers they can.

 

[Cavman]

I didn't mention that my Tundra is a 4x4 and I have been known to go off road. Just check out my back bumper. :roflblack:

 

[bruiser]

That's the big thing with diesels is the torque. You can have less horsepower with high torque and get the job done. I've been looking at diesels. But the cost is out of my range. Looked at a 2011 F250 Super Duty with 22,231 miles on it. They wanted $42,500. Plus we have to pay road use tax on diesels.

 

[jcthorne]

The diesel is appealing in the Tundra for a very good reason in my opinion. MPG. The new Dodge 1500 with the diesel option is getting something like 28MPG. The gas half ton pickups don't even come close to this. I own a Tundra now. I'd buy a diesel version in a second.

The 2.7 EcoBoost in the 15 F-150 will get very close or the same mileage (Ford is actually shooting for 30) than the Dodge small diesel and the fuel is 20% cheaper.

The 3.5 EcoBoost far and away gets better gas mileage than the large V8s currently available and flat out out runs them.

Toyota wants the diesel because there engine tech has fallen WAY behind and in vehicles that large, you just cannot hide it.

Oilburners are yesterdays tech. In smaller engines (under 450 ft lbs) there is no justification for diesel over gasoline in the US. Only as a marketing tool when your competition has the leg up.

Toyota has proven to be good at one thing this year....filing recall papers. They now top the list for both shear numbers and largest percentage of production recalled.

There is a reason Ford builds the number one selling car and truck in the world. And they intend to stay on top spending millions on research for those mainstream vehicles.