traction control?

[Dwight]

Soooooooo, is what I'm reading here mean that the Spyder is so unstable that it is un-rideable (?) without VSS?

Also, did I miss something? I thought he just asked about disconnecting the VSS. I didn't see the part about whether you all thought it was a good idea or not.:chat:

Dwight

 

[BajaRon]

Soooooooo, is what I'm reading here mean that the Spyder is so unstable that it is un-rideable (?) without VSS?

Also, did I miss something? I thought he just asked about disconnecting the VSS. I didn't see the part about whether you all thought it was a good idea or not.:chat:

Dwight

We thought it only neighborly to tell you BEFORE you ended up with a large bump on your head rather than after.

I wouldn't say the Spyder is necessarily unstable without the VSS anymore than 2 wheels are unstable, per-se.

The problem is more that the rider can easily exceed their skill level, passing the point of no return, before they realize it with the Spyder. With the VSS this is not going to cause much of a problem.

Without the VSS it's going to leave a mark for sure!

 

[wyliec]

Also, did I miss something? I thought he just asked about disconnecting the VSS. I didn't see the part about whether you all thought it was a good idea or not.:chat:

Dwight

It's called free speech. Lamonster is the sheriff here. If he feels something was said that shouldn't have been said, he'll make the arrest.

 

[boborgera]

Hey if you want to disconnect the nanny and really feel the sensation of
road rash,:shocked: Then just go out and ride a two wheeler in, not so ideal road conditions:doorag:

 

[Justin]

Soooooooo, is what I'm reading here mean that the Spyder is so unstable that it is un-rideable (?) without VSS?

Also, did I miss something? I thought he just asked about disconnecting the VSS. I didn't see the part about whether you all thought it was a good idea or not.:chat:

Dwight

Just try. People are making a big deal out of nothing. It's not unstable at all. You can take off fishtailing and whip donuts on a dime.

 

[IWN2RYD]

Soooooooo, is what I'm reading here mean that the Spyder is so unstable that it is un-rideable (?) without VSS?

Also, did I miss something? I thought he just asked about disconnecting the VSS. I didn't see the part about whether you all thought it was a good idea or not.:chat:

Dwight

Well I for one am saddened that that is what you got from it. I thought you asked. Seems what you really wanted to hear was... Go for it Dude!! It is awesome! hyea::2thumbs::clap::yes:

 

[Dudley]

If you want to disconnect a life saving part of your Spyder, go ahead. I have been riding various bikes for many years and I am astounded as to how many people have a death wish just to prove their skills and how macho they are. If you don't care about your safety, think about your family. It's people like you who make the headlines about accidents on Spyders and contribute to a negative reputation for one of the safest machines made.

 

[SpyderFun]

For those of you considering disabling ANYTHING that the OEM has declared an installed part/component was done so for safe operations, good luck with getting anything fixed under warranty that could be traced back to you doing this "unauthorized alteration"! And if you wreck the bike, see how fast your insurance "declines" your claim for the same reason.

Remember, we all share nothing more than our opinions here and none of us speak for the factory and what they have certified through documented testing as "necessary for safe vehicle operations". Adding additional lights or other like accessories does not alter the handling performance of the machine while disabling the "Nanny" clearly does.

Therefore I for one will never disclose a "how to" alter or disable something the OEM has decided was required for safe operation simply because I know how.

BTW, freedom of speech only protects citizens when speaking about the government and usually not between individuals unless they are employed by the government.

 

[BajaRon]

 

[Raptor]

Heh, heh... the very first guy who did this about two years ago, promptly went out and flipped it in a parking lot.

Riding this bike without the nanny is like trying to fly an F-117 without a computer. It may work for a little while for you, but gravity and centrifugal forces will win in the end.

Like you, I dreamed about disconnecting the nanny... until I rode it for a while (somewhat aggressively) and figured out that the nanny was like the good witch... not the bad witch of the west.

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Totally, totally TOTALLY agree! I did it and almost paid the price. The bike becomes extremely unstable at high speeds and you will hurt yourself or worse. Trust me, I know! I figure if I want to push things that far I will get the appropriate bike for the job. The Spyder is NOT that bike, although with the mods I have made and improvement in technique I have done some pretty sick things on 14 with the VSS engaged. It's all about being smooth and other things.

 

[sinko]

traction control

Thankyou all for your concern for my saftey i think i can control my destiny have been riding since the age of 11 had many a fall got up and at it again patches bandages limps sore shoulders you name it ,and in the meantime not endangering anybodyelse so im in for some fun if i can get this thing mobile sidways at great lenghts must enjoy the most of the fun i can make will be great on dirt tracks thanks for the input will sus it out and see what comes up Regards Sinko. PS dont worry about warranty if it breaks weld it if it dosent ya ya ya ya ya :2thumbs:

 

[sinko]

JUSTIN

Just try. People are making a big deal out of nothing. It's not unstable at all. You can take off fishtailing and whip donuts on a dime.

Cant be any worse than the VROD was turbo and 165hp at the back wheel with the front in the air most of the time plus didnt handle at 240klms an hour all over the road like melted icecream on a hot day. Regards SINKO:2thumbs:

 

[sinko]

DUDLEY

If you want to disconnect a life saving part of your Spyder, go ahead. I have been riding various bikes for many years and I am astounded as to how many people have a death wish just to prove their skills and how macho they are. If you don't care about your safety, think about your family. It's people like you who make the headlines about accidents on Spyders and contribute to a negative reputation for one of the safest machines made.

Dudley your getting excited and thats not good noone is trying to prove anything im looking for a bit of fun not trying to prove anything to anybody if it works i see a great deal of excitement for me in the dirt drifting sideways ,youve got to live life your way other wise it becomes boring plus we cant be all the same Regards Sinko:2thumbs:

 

[chris56]

i`m also absolut shure the only reason no other reverse-trikes are on the street is - that it would be much too dangerous to ride without "our" VSS system ... look at the first seconds of this japanese one..

 

[Dwight]

Thanks BajaRon,
Your reply brought a chuckle,. Most of the others just missed the point.

Dwight

 

[Campverdefela]

Dudley your getting excited and thats not good noone is trying to prove anything im looking for a bit of fun not trying to prove anything to anybody if it works i see a great deal of excitement for me in the dirt drifting sideways ,youve got to live life your way other wise it becomes boring plus we cant be all the same Regards Sinko:2thumbs:

As I posted earlier, just try riding the brake a little, this with practice can make it fun without costly mods or deadly effect at high speed.

 

[BajaRon]

Thanks BajaRon,
Your reply brought a chuckle,. Most of the others just missed the point.

Dwight

Humor usually goes over better than a straight answer. But this does have a serious side.

I spent a carreer scraping people that "just wanted to have a little fun" off the pavement.

In the fire department we called it 'Job Security'!

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: Very good point! :thumbup:

 

[Dudley]

Humor usually goes over better than a straight answer. But this does have a serious side.

I spent a carreer scraping people that "just wanted to have a little fun" off the pavement.

In the fire department we called it 'Job Security'!

I like that. And sad to say, you will always find people helping you keep your job! I just find it hard to understand.

 

[lamarguy]

I too would like to be able to spin the rear tire while turning and taking off..... and am working on a way to do this over the winter---- but I would NOT totally disable the VSS.

FWIW, I purchased some wire taps and I plan to experiment with dampening/reducing the Steering Angle Sensor (SAS) voltage feedback. This would maintain the VSS function but delay the throttle kill response based on the steering angle. If I can achieve a 30% reduction in steering angle response, I'll be happy.

Dampening the SAS signal appears to be straightforward. And, the SAS is easily accessible from the front after jacking up the spyder. :thumbup: