Has anybody out there done away with their traction control and if so how?i would love to know. Someone would have found a way dont keep it a secret id love to know as its not much fun trying to get off the mark with ya bars turned plus want to do a few turns at full noise, at the moment not much joy:chat:
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Bob Denman
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Question: Why not? Sometimes I think that it'd be nice to let the Nannies sleep while the gorillas howl in the mist...
ataDude
Mod Maniac
Heh, heh... the very first guy who did this about two years ago, promptly went out and flipped it in a parking lot.
Riding this bike without the nanny is like trying to fly an F-117 without a computer. It may work for a little while for you, but gravity and centrifugal forces will win in the end.
Like you, I dreamed about disconnecting the nanny... until I rode it for a while (somewhat aggressively) and figured out that the nanny was like the good witch... not the bad witch of the west.
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fastfraser
Blazing Member
I think you are just asking for trouble ! But to each there own.:dontknow:
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
:agree::agree::agree: A skillful rider learns how to wring the most out of the machine...as is. Play the cards you are dealt!Heh, heh... the very first guy who did this about two years ago, promptly went out and flipped it in a parking lot.
Riding this bike without the nanny is like trying to fly an F-117 without a computer. It may work for a little while for you, but gravity and centrifugal forces will win in the end.
Like you, I dreamed about disconnecting the nanny... until I rode it for a while (somewhat aggressively) and figured out that the nanny was like the good witch... not the bad witch of the west.
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bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
:agree: The whole point of the Spyder is to ride it hard yet know the bike is looking out for you...a little safety goes a long way...
MarkLawson
RT-S PE#0031
As I understand it, BRP tried 3 or 4 designs of the Spyder & almost gave up on it because of it's inherent instability. They then partnered with Bosch, who designed the Vehicle Stability Control System, which made the Spyder possible.
I'd recommend learning BRP's lesson & letting the Nannie keep you safe.
I'd recommend learning BRP's lesson & letting the Nannie keep you safe.
Marker
New member
:agree:From Test riding the :spyder2:Rt SE5. It felt like driving a snowmobile and a big ATV. Having said that with driving like a snowmobile the inside Ski or as the :spyder2:inside wheel would lift while cornering at high speeds causing the :spyder2: to roll over. It seems to me that the nanny keeps the :spyder2
n its wheels and is therefore necessary. This is just my $0.02. Play safe
n its wheels and is therefore necessary. This is just my $0.02. Play safewebslinger
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Disabling DPS
Can one also disable the DPS, to cure some of the Power Steering issues people are posting about. If so, how does one do that.
Can one also disable the DPS, to cure some of the Power Steering issues people are posting about. If so, how does one do that.
Firefly
Active member
No need to disconnect the DPS-- just get the GEN 2 DPS updated unit and you'll be good to go.
As far as the VSS --- I've ridden without it on -- and you REALLY would not want to do away with it..... with the possible exception of low speed operation (sub 25). I too would like to be able to spin the rear tire while turning and taking off..... and am working on a way to do this over the winter---- but I would NOT totally disable the VSS.
Ride it as hard as you can and learn from the nanny. On twisties like the Dragon, she'll hit the brakes for you -- freeing you up to handle other things.....:thumbup:
As far as the VSS --- I've ridden without it on -- and you REALLY would not want to do away with it..... with the possible exception of low speed operation (sub 25). I too would like to be able to spin the rear tire while turning and taking off..... and am working on a way to do this over the winter---- but I would NOT totally disable the VSS.
Ride it as hard as you can and learn from the nanny. On twisties like the Dragon, she'll hit the brakes for you -- freeing you up to handle other things.....:thumbup:
BajaRon
Well-known member
Lamont and I talked to some of the BRP professional test riders. They used words like "Lawn Dart" and "Don't Try This At Home".
At first I thought it was just the corporate line they were pulling. But after riding with them and spending some time, I realized that they were just telling it like it is.
Most of us would like to dump the nanny from time to time. Me included. I love to ride hard and I don't like the sputtering and caughing at embarrising times.
But I have decided NOT to prove to myself (the hard way) that disabling the nanny is a bad idea.
We all think we are better riders than we are. And I have proven that to myself more than once! :yikes:
How does the song go?
don't tug on Superman's cape
don't spit into the wind
don't pull the mask off an 'ole Lone Ranger
and take your Nanny when you go for a Spin!
At first I thought it was just the corporate line they were pulling. But after riding with them and spending some time, I realized that they were just telling it like it is.
Most of us would like to dump the nanny from time to time. Me included. I love to ride hard and I don't like the sputtering and caughing at embarrising times.
But I have decided NOT to prove to myself (the hard way) that disabling the nanny is a bad idea.
We all think we are better riders than we are. And I have proven that to myself more than once! :yikes:
How does the song go?
don't tug on Superman's cape
don't spit into the wind
don't pull the mask off an 'ole Lone Ranger
and take your Nanny when you go for a Spin!
Magic Man
Registered User
Because the RTs throttle is "fly by wire" in design. the VSS system can actually roll off the throttle as needed to cut the power back. Because in this system it is actually the computer that open the throttle plates not your hand.
The RS throttle design is still of cables, and inasmuch to cut back the power the VSS induces an "engine miss" through the fuel and ignition system to cut back the power.
Both do the same "power cut back function" it's just that the RT's design is just much smoother and more seemless in how it works.
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Bob Denman
New member
Well when you start bringing SKILL into the equation... :shocked: I'll guess that "Glinda" will just have to keep me from killing myself and thus raising the collective intelligance of the herd...
Campverdefela
New member
This was posted sometime ago, that with the RS if you apply a little braking starting out turned or even attempting a power turn in motion you can trick the stability control a little, adds a little fun but not too much.
chris56
Active member
intresting point for me ..
think the FBW is one point- on my "tests" i have the feeling that the steering sensor is "switched off" on my RT if the speed is less than 30 mls/hour -
i`m able to make a drift-u-turn on a sandy parking-area or in the rain -
which was impossible with my GS .. maybe someone can try this with both modells (maybe my nanny sees the things not so strictly)
its a lot of different for me .. (will also ask some rotax guys here)
have more than 10.000kms on the RT now - my GS was a 08 modell (20.000km) -
DragonSpyder
New member
The guy who tipped his in a parking lot was doing donuts until he hit a pothole going sideways.
I say give it a shot to see how it goes. Just remove the sensors on all 3 wheels and tie them to the frame. Then unplug fuse for DPS.
I would start with some slow speed tests to see how it works before going full on into a corner!
I say give it a shot to see how it goes. Just remove the sensors on all 3 wheels and tie them to the frame. Then unplug fuse for DPS.
I would start with some slow speed tests to see how it works before going full on into a corner!
IWN2RYD
New member
I thought I wanted to as well. Or at least a "Sport" or "Touring" selections... Well I still want those two... But my point for my wife and I is this...
We live in a rather hilly environment, and rail road tracks in town. One day I was driving my normal speed, road are dry, but the track was not!!! It was a right turn (Track in the middle of the turn). Hit it doing about 35 mph and the right tire lifted, then the left... Traffic coming towards me... All I had to do was do my "Superman" grip and the bike stayed in my lane and I thought for sure I was heading for a head-on collision... Had I of turned off the Nanny I am 100% certain that at the least I would have flipped the Spyder right into the other lane of traffic. nojoke
And to be perfectly honest. I find that if you learn to "Drive" the Spyder inside the pentameters of the Nanny, that the ryde is actually pretty smooth and more comfortable for the driver/ryder. Not to mention I think it allows for the bike to last longer compared to the stressing that would be allowed without the Nanny... But that is just my $.02...
We live in a rather hilly environment, and rail road tracks in town. One day I was driving my normal speed, road are dry, but the track was not!!! It was a right turn (Track in the middle of the turn). Hit it doing about 35 mph and the right tire lifted, then the left... Traffic coming towards me... All I had to do was do my "Superman" grip and the bike stayed in my lane and I thought for sure I was heading for a head-on collision... Had I of turned off the Nanny I am 100% certain that at the least I would have flipped the Spyder right into the other lane of traffic. nojoke
And to be perfectly honest. I find that if you learn to "Drive" the Spyder inside the pentameters of the Nanny, that the ryde is actually pretty smooth and more comfortable for the driver/ryder. Not to mention I think it allows for the bike to last longer compared to the stressing that would be allowed without the Nanny... But that is just my $.02...
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