Traction control disable feature

[Richard Budden]

Can anyone out there in Spyder land tell me if it is possible to disable the traction control feature on a 2014 RT-S ? I test rode an F3 today and it's scary fast but it's using the same engine, major difference is it has no traction control. Anyone know if this can be done on an RT-S?

 

[_..stiffler..]

I hear that there is going to be a computer update to be able to disable the TC. Not sure if it's just the F3 models tho.

And I'm not sure on the rts but on the f3 the TC is still there it just has a higher speed where the TC kicks in.

Sent on Note 5 in Taptalk

 

[billybovine]

From my understanding. Sport mode is only available so far on 2017 F3S models. So unless you test drove a 2017 F3S and it was put into sport mode, then traction control was on. On all models all years traction control does not kick in until your reach 50 km/h (30 mph). The major difference between an F3 and a 2014 RTS as your example is the rear drive ratio. The rear sprocket is 10 teeth bigger gearing the F3 lower.

 

[Michaelscs]

Can anyone out there in Spyder land tell me if it is possible to disable the traction control feature on a 2014 RT-S ? I test rode an F3 today and it's scary fast but it's using the same engine, major difference is it has no traction control. Anyone know if this can be done on an RT-S?

The big difference your feeling is the weight and gearing. The F3 weighs 170 lbs. less and is geared lower(faster take-off).

 

[NonTypicalCPA]

I'd like to see a computer update to reduce the tc like on the 2017's. I'd run out and buy a 2016 in a heartbeat. But I really want the TC feature like on the 2017.

 

[Bob Denman]

I doubt you'll see it, or even want it disabled on your RT. nojoke
The seating position of the F3 makes for a MUCH lower center of gravity. If (or when!) things go wrong while toasting a Kenda: you've got a far less likely chance of putting the bike on it's side.

 

[spyderCodes]

bump

 

[Hypurone]

The seating position of the F3 makes for a MUCH lower center of gravity. If (or when!) things go wrong while toasting a Kenda: you've got a far less likely chance of putting the bike on it's side.

But but, it is soooooo much fun to do!! hyea:

 

[SPYD3R]

SEAT

not sure if this is correct, but the saleswoman at my dealer back when i bought my 1st RS in 2009, told me that to 'cancel' the traction control, all you need to do is stand on the pegs, and lift your butt off the seat... the sensor now thinks that nobody is on the bike....
i've never tried this, and haven't thought of it since back in '09... if it works, let us all know....
SPYD3R

 

[Lastchance]

I know a guy that does ECU reflashes but usually on a certain brand of bike, problem is he needs a ECU and wiring diagram to find what controls what, takes 6 mo + to figure it out then testing, also I'm sure he would want to see 20 to 30 people showing interest and even at that I don't know if he would want to take it on.

 

[Bob Denman]

But but, it is soooooo much fun to do!! hyea:

 

[wanderingman]

WHAT?

not sure if this is correct, but the saleswoman at my dealer back when i bought my 1st RS in 2009, told me that to 'cancel' the traction control, all you need to do is stand on the pegs, and lift your butt off the seat... the sensor now thinks that nobody is on the bike....
i've never tried this, and haven't thought of it since back in '09... if it works, let us all know....
SPYD3R

Stand on the pegs, raise the CG a great amount and then break the rear wheel loose. I have had road rash in the past. Think I'll pass on this one.

 

[Bob Denman]

not sure if this is correct, but the saleswoman at my dealer back when i bought my 1st RS in 2009, told me that to 'cancel' the traction control, all you need to do is stand on the pegs, and lift your butt off the seat... the sensor now thinks that nobody is on the bike....
i've never tried this, and haven't thought of it since back in '09... if it works, let us all know....
SPYD3R

:shocked:




The only sensor that's present, is there to let the VSS know about the passenger end of the seat...

 

[Chupaca]

As I see it...

There may be a confusion with the knowledge of this feature and the difference in the handling of the two. I don't think they will add this to the RT , being set up for the touring crowd, but who knows..:dontknow: one could only wish they would add it to the GS, RS, RSS and maybe even the ST. Now on a sales point they may not change any of them and if you like the rush....well....upgrade and help sales....:roflblack:

 

[sledmaster]

The F3 has a lower center of gravity with the lower seating position, and it also has a higher roll center from the front suspension, so the resulting moment arm is much shorter. Think leverage. This is what makes the F3 so much more stable and less prone to body roll, and thus allows the calibration of the VSS and TCS to be less aggressive (allowing the rider to be more aggressive). Bosch does the calibrations of this over in Germany, with a unit all decked out in data acquisition sensors and computers running on board, and expert test riders take the machine through closed course testing to determine exactly where the VSS and TCS should kick in. This is all pretty specific as for targets, how many Gs and what kind of lift is acceptable.


So any hopes to have a similar calibration on the other models is a moot point due to the higher cg and lower roll center, with a longer moment arm as a result. More leverage, more roll, more lift, less stability. Just like a long travel snowmobile......you can't have it all on every model, there are engineering compromises at every turn.

Having ridden Spyders that did not have TCS or VSS way back when they were REV snowmobiles with a swing arm and a rear tire, I can tell you that while it was a fun ride, you should thank your lucky stars we have TCS and VSS. This is what keeps the wheels on the ground and the machine pointed in the right direction. Without TCS and VSS we would have to rely on rider skill to perform these functions. Some of us would be capable of such, others would not.

 

[cuznjohn]

what would be the reason to disable the traction control. is there a adv advantage to it. i have it in my car and never used it

 

[Bob Denman]

It's good for burning up tires, and that's about it! nojoke