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Too Bad That'll It'll Never Get Out Of The Senate...

It won't happen during the lifetime of anyone here today, well except maybe those under 30, but when the population of this country reaches the area of about one billion people in 50 to 100 years from now popular sentiment will change. The 2nd amendment will be repealed, or at least amended to allow only hunting and competition firearms which must be stored in a gun club safe. No more home storage.
 
Agree But for One Thing ...

Where a state issues an actual CCW, it makes sense to honor it nationwide. What I read, however, is that if a state allows CCW without issuing any permit, the law would require reciprocity on that, too. I object to that part because it would create an enforcement nightmare for the police. If I'm a cop and stop somebody who is carrying but has no physical CCW permit or is at least in some database I could look up, how do I know if he is really authorized in his home state or not? I'd have to know the laws of all 50 states. That seems like a needless burden on the police. Simple solution - require reciprocity only if the carrier can produce a physical permit - states not currently requiring a CCW permit could easily issue a courtesy authorization for their citizens to carry with them when out of state.
 
IdahoMtnSpyder said:
It won't happen during the lifetime of anyone here today, well except maybe those under 30, but when the population of this country reaches the area of about one billion people in 50 to 100 years from now popular sentiment will change. The 2nd amendment will be repealed, or at least amended to allow only hunting and competition firearms which must be stored in a gun club safe. No more home storage.
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X2. But I think this is coming a lot sooner than we think.
 
johnsimion said:
Where a state issues an actual CCW, it makes sense to honor it nationwide. What I read, however, is that if a state allows CCW without issuing any permit, the law would require reciprocity on that, too. I object to that part because it would create an enforcement nightmare for the police. If I'm a cop and stop somebody who is carrying but has no physical CCW permit or is at least in some database I could look up, how do I know if he is really authorized in his home state or not? I'd have to know the laws of all 50 states. That seems like a needless burden on the police. Simple solution - require reciprocity only if the carrier can produce a physical permit - states not currently requiring a CCW permit could easily issue a courtesy authorization for their citizens to carry with them when out of state.
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:agree: For a Nationwide Right to Carry Law to actually work: the investigatory process will need to be uniform, consistent, and equally applied. :thumbup:
 
IdahoMtnSpyder said:
It won't happen during the lifetime of anyone here today, well except maybe those under 30, but when the population of this country reaches the area of about one billion people in 50 to 100 years from now popular sentiment will change. The 2nd amendment will be repealed, or at least amended to allow only hunting and competition firearms which must be stored in a gun club safe. No more home storage.
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I believe this is the UK as we speak.
If you are urban and wealthy enough to belong to a shooting/hunting club, you may own a firearm, as long as you store it at the club and use it at the club. If you can't afford to belong to a club, you can't in reality own a firearm. (or a crossbow)
If you are rural and own a farm you may keep a .22 or a shotgun in your home, with special permission, for the control of rodents and other animal pests.

Classless society? Not so much.

If I am incorrect, I invite correction by my British friends.
My daughter and her family will be moving to England again in July and this information will help my decisions about a gift to my grandson.
 
I read that Alaska has no CCW permit needed to carry in the state, but to travel to other states you have to obtain the state CCW permit. I think that is required from other states with in state carry.
 
Machinegunner said:
I read that Alaska has no CCW permit needed to carry in the state, but to travel to other states you have to obtain the state CCW permit. I think that is required from other states with in state carry.
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I do not know what the actual laws about CCW are here. I don't do it and I do not pack a gun everywhere I go.

Most of the people here do pack a gun. Not uncommon to go into a restaurant and see someone that has a holster on. Add all the CC stuff, and it going to increase a lot.

I have learned to avoid certain neighborhoods, never get into a argument or road rage with anyone. Most of these things end up in shootouts. We have at least one of those a day now. Anchorage Bowl population--about 300,000. Sometimes, I think we are in Chicago.
 
I CCW everywhere I go and I don't support business that doesn't allow me to carry. I do wish NC would put our pictures on the CCW, that's the only thing that is wrong with ours.
 
Bob Denman said:
Most private party transfers are between individuals who know one another.
Ordering guns online... that's just a myth. :lecturef_smilie:
You'll still need to have your background checked out.
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Sure Bob. ALL of those people who attend gun shows know or are related to one another. :yes:

And I wish you would try to read and comprehend all of the information in a post before replying to it.
I said that you can order a whole gun, almost any kind, IF you order it one piece at a time and then put it together yourself.
That is NOT a myth.
 
kep-up said:
Really? But not the anti-gun arguments, I suppose. :hun:
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For starters, most are not "anti-gun" but PRO effective gun regulations.

Then......do a little simple and easy research yourself. Take note of the news stories about people getting killed with guns......while another crime is NOT occurring. Then add up the news stories about "law abiding" citizens stopping a crime in progress by using their piece.

Just accidental shootings of friends and family occur about 10 times more often than shooting criminals.

Add in shootings that occur to ALL people who are not committing another criminal act at the time and it goes up to about 100 to 1. (Yes that is a guess.)
 
Simply due to the fact that most media is anti-gun, you will see few if any occurrences where a gun was used to stop or prevent a crime. NRA magazine does a nice job of giving you examples in every issue.

I'm also betting that due to the anti gun sentiment, many people that prevent a crime or issue (with a gun) don't report it. If you are an innocent survivor they want to put you through hell. Criminals, them we make excuses for and take care of.

As far as statistics, people seem to make them up to enforce their anti gun position. Three different articles, three different figures.
 
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Saluda said:
Simply due to the fact that most media is anti-gun, you will see few if any occurrences where a gun was used to stop or prevent a crime.
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Absolute and total BS.

In my area, all the media outlets jump all over any story where that happens.

And I watch FOX a lot. How do you explain THEM not reporting same ??

NO, never mind.
This "I've got my mind made up, don't confuse me with facts" gets old really quickly.
 
There's no doubt that not everyone is mentally and emotionally equipped to be around firearms.
But I find it amazing that the folks who seemingly aren't: are also the ones who yell the loudest about restricting the rights of those that are...
If you don't want to own one: don't! nojoke
 
As suggested in many NRA articles, I have attempted to have frank discussions with many people (reasonable ones) who are either on the fence or anti gun. It's amazing how many feelings and opinions are influenced and enforced by lies and non truths that are told over and over. When given facts and figures, many develop different opinions than originally believed.

There is hope, things seem to be changing for the better. Now if we could address the people with issues that are being ignored by our government (to save some money), maybe we could reduce the amount of tragic ocurrences these people commit.
 
Believe it or not: HIPPA regulations are the culprit... :gaah:
Allow Law Enforcement Agencies the opportunity to look into a person's mental health history, and you'll catch an awful lot of the problems! :thumbup:
 
Easy Rider said:
Absolute and total BS.

In my area, all the media outlets jump all over any story where that happens.

And I watch FOX a lot. How do you explain THEM not reporting same ??

NO, never mind.
This "I've got my mind made up, don't confuse me with facts" gets old really quickly.
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Ayup, sure does. Therefore I will not discuss this any further with you.
 
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