MouthPiece
Banged Up Member
I just noticed that I failed to list my expectation (whether it's reasonable or not), but I always expected to get at least 14,000 out of my 2010 RT-S and 2013-RT-S.
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Thumbs down on Falkon rear tire
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Magdave
New member
This subject is so wide open with so many variables and inability to actually verify numbers I don't think I can take any special position in the discussion.
I'm not saying no one has gotten 30k from a rear tire. I just said I didn't know of anyone who had. There is a lot that I don't know....
I will go out on a limb and say that 30k from a rear tire is not likely to land in the middle of the mileage bell curve. I also think that traction is more important than mileage, which is why I am not all that happy with my Falken 912's. I think they are probably a good enough tire. But with my lightly loaded GS they aren't doing it for me.
With my luck I'll probably get 30k out of this rear tire and have to wait that long to try another tire, or swap out with a lot of tread left. Neither are all that appealing to me.
I hear ya Ron. A lot of Falken users have the same complaint you do as far as traction goes. 30k is obviously the high end and with the miles I put on I would never reach it changing tires every 5 yrs is important to me I see the dry rot start they are gone. That traction issue is a trade off and most harder tires , even Kumho, may not get as good traction on a light load as the softer Kenda. Life is full of trade offs. If you do 10+k a year I would go with aftermarket IMHO.
BajaRon
Well-known member
:agree:
My Toyo's were at least as good with traction as the OEM tires. I think definitely better in wet conditions. They were not good in the cold and wet traction went away when they were about shot (which is to be expected). But I'm now wishing I'd put another Toyo on, though they quit making the one that I used.
rnet
New member
Out of my son's tire shop, we have always recommended the Toyo Proxes 4, cause they had a AA rating on wet traction, however they are no longer made and I do agree that the Kumho is a good tire for the price. I have Toyo's on my Vette as well.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Expectations are personal...and can only be defined by the individual. People who only have experience with automobile tire mileage are going to expect much more than they get from the Spyder tires...and will undoubtedly be disappointed. People who were used to two wheelers are usually surprised at getting 2-3 times what they got on their bike tires...often for less money per tire. They are generally quite pleased. Only you can define what you expect, or consider to be reasonable. I, for one, am quite satisfied.
BajaRon
Well-known member
...and a satisfied Scotty is nothing to sneeze at! :thumbup: (A 'Bob-Ism')
Bob Denman
New member
:agree: 
I only wish that I had said it! :clap:
I only wish that I had said it! :clap:
bobnaquin
New member
15,000 is a what I get on my RS and have since November of 2007. I think RT's get considerably less. I don't know why. Probably the weight difference and that they are built for two up riding and probably get a lot of use that way.
Some people claim their tire is worn out when the rain bars come up. Learn what the rain bars are what the wear bars are. They are different. Or just change your tire every 15,000 and quit worrying about it-if you have an RS.
Longer wearing tires will have less grip. I don't know any exception to this rule but with all of the variables it is impossible to prove or disprove this in every day life. I put a Toyo on my bike once and got 18,000 miles but it slid around a bit. I liked it, but realized that it was not the safest thing overall, and went back to BRP tires.
This is almost as much fun as the "which oil to use" thread(s). The simple answer to that one is "whatever BajaRon says to use"
Some people claim their tire is worn out when the rain bars come up. Learn what the rain bars are what the wear bars are. They are different. Or just change your tire every 15,000 and quit worrying about it-if you have an RS.
Longer wearing tires will have less grip. I don't know any exception to this rule but with all of the variables it is impossible to prove or disprove this in every day life. I put a Toyo on my bike once and got 18,000 miles but it slid around a bit. I liked it, but realized that it was not the safest thing overall, and went back to BRP tires.
This is almost as much fun as the "which oil to use" thread(s). The simple answer to that one is "whatever BajaRon says to use"
Lamonster
SpyderLovers Founder
The oem tire that comes on the bike seems to wear much faster, 5-6K is all I've been getting. Replacement tire I get 10-12K out of the same tire. Not sure why that is.
I've tried pretty much all of them and I like the Toyo the best but they don't make that one anymore but it was great in the rain. I never get much more than 12K on any of them. I would not use a tire that got 100K if it didn't work well in the rain. Just saying :doorag:
I've tried pretty much all of them and I like the Toyo the best but they don't make that one anymore but it was great in the rain. I never get much more than 12K on any of them. I would not use a tire that got 100K if it didn't work well in the rain. Just saying :doorag:
Ex-Rocket
Well-known member
Spyd3r
KUMHO
KUMHO AST..... KUMHO KUMHO KUMHO for the bizzillionth time.... 225/50R 15...
I got 27,000 miles from my last one, and they only cost about $80.... :yes:
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?60377-Tire-Options&highlight=kuhmo
That's a good looking tire.
SteveMac
MOgang Member & Monster Member,
MouthPiece
Banged Up Member
Thanks to all who chimed in. I was aware of the variables, etc. I just wanted to see if I could "pull out" of some of the more experienced riders what their expectations were. I think I've achieved that. I will say that 30,000 on a rear tire far exceeds my expectations. (whether they are reasonable or not)
Chris
Chris
bikeguy
New member
As Scotty said, expectations are personal, but expectations are based on experience. In my experience, I don't remember ever getting much more than 7,000 miles out of a rear motorcycle tire and sometimes quite a bit less. Considering the width of the RT rear tire, I expected to get around 10,000 miles out of it. I got 9,040 out of my first OEM tire and it was completely worn out. So that wasn't far from my expectations but after one more OEM, I decided to try a Kumho Ecsta and got 17,487 out of it. Traction seems to be slightly less than the OEM Kenda but not enough less to really be noticeable. I'm quite happy with the Kenda and my mileage expectation is now 15,000 or more out of a rear tire on the Spyder.
Cotton
Cotton
bhfromme
Member
Thanks Lamont and I agree. If the tire doesn't grab wet pavement well it's useless. That's actually why I started this thread. To tell people the Falkon is just flat out dangerous.
Bottom line is always safety. Be safe out there guys.
dndfindley
New member
You're going to get 20,000 miles out of the OEM rear tire? How did that happen? I have 5500 miles on mine (2012 RT) and it might make it another 1000 but doubtful. Already even with the wear bars.
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