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The oil plug- Murphy showed up today.

What is that? Is that metal? If you put a backing piece on it JB might hold it.

Thanks for the reply, but it's just a random plucked from the net.

I guess it is a graphic reminder those who poo poo Torques and offer advice to all to just to do it up and what may occur.

While some appreciate how soft some of these metals are on the bikes others really have no idea and it can lead to unnecessary damage and tricky remedies.

Like my thread on the 3rd peg mount bolt torque value for example.
Just do it up was offered.
That bolt had to be quite tight to hold the dropper and peg in place when my full munchkin body weight went on it.
Imagine how much of a job to fix that if it stripped out?

Not everybody here can turn a nut, resulting in damaged and stripped threads.

Non Rocket Arm

Iso

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Edit.

To those who say torque values are a waste of time.

Well put up.

Provide examples of that claim

where a correctly torqued bolt

in the correct spot

has caused problems.


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I did read where the bloke was doing his best to refit the plugs got them mixed and over torqued one.

Commiserations.

At least you were attempting to do the job to a high degree of competency but got a little lost along the way.
 
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How do you get the suction tube through the drain galleries into the lower sump?
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You can't. I used mine several times on my previous F3 and it pulls out about 3 quarts.
Not recommending this, but if you can no longer get down and do a proper change, its better than nothing.

Works great on my two cars though.
 
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Next time your under the :spyder2:, Raised up a bit, take a Dremel tool to the opening in the plastic pan on both bolts. Soooo much easier and cleaner to drain out the oil.

Lew L
 
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Next time your under the :spyder2:, Raised up a bit, take a Dremel tool to the opening in the plastic pan on both bolts. Soooo much easier and cleaner to drain out the oil.

Lew L

Or just take the plastic off and leave it off. Makes it cooler in the summer.
 
Himm. I do wonder if that is a possible reason there are these I stripped sump plug threads.

Tricky to locate the tool in the correct position, ahh thatildoo, whammo - neck minute striped the bolt fitting.

Enlarge the hole, well if you have too I guess.

Also it seems the rattle guns are popular over simple hand tools.

ZZZZRRRRRPPPP. Then...Ah crap. Thats not good.

Remove the protective plastic sheet all-together, yeah nah, not for me.
Mine has a few scrape marks and gouges. So its doing its job.
 
Himm. I do wonder if that is a possible reason there are these I stripped sump plug threads.

Tricky to locate the tool in the correct position, ahh thatildoo, whammo - neck minute striped the bolt fitting.

Enlarge the hole, well if you have too I guess.

Also it seems the rattle guns are popular over simple hand tools.

ZZZZRRRRRPPPP. Then...Ah crap. Thats not good.

Remove the protective plastic sheet all-together, yeah nah, not for me.
Mine has a few scrape marks and gouges. So its doing its job
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I've had the thick plastic "bumpskid" on my :spyder2: since it was new. (2014). Its got a few deep scratches on it that would have seriously damaged the thin plastic covers just behind the bumpskid. I wouldn't be without either of those protective covers. A few moments with the Dremel tool has made oil changes cleaner and easier.

Lew L
 
I personally would never use the suction method on anything, unless you want the crap to collect in the bottom of the pan. I bought my Chevy Blazer that was used, first time I changed the oil, I removed the drain plug and nothing came out, not even a drop. :hun: I stuck a screw driver in the hole and wiggled it around and out came this wad of slime sticky goop and then the engine oil. Seems that the previous owner was taking it to those quick lube places that suck out the oil, too lazy to pull the drain plug and do it right.
 
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