The Next Upgrade

[Bob Denman]

Here's some printed instructions that I find to be very useful... :thumbup:

Most damage to the keyhole clips comes from improper or overly physical removal of the mirrors. I have never broken a clip on two RT's, although the mirrors have been removed frequently. To remove without damage I recommend the following:
1. Place one hand at the back of the mirror near the outer edge of the glass. This hand should apply light pressure toward the front to keep you from moving the mirror to far and breaking the clip.
2. With the other hand, rap against the front puter edge to pop the front spring clip loose. I describe the force of the hit as "firm, but gentle". A sharp, short rap is all you need. Do not tug or push, and be sure to resist with the other hand.
3. Move the backup hand to the top outer portion of the housing.
4. From underneath, rap upward with the other hand to pop the lower spring clip loose.
5. Gently lift straight up on the mirror assembly, about 1/2", then pull outward to slip the latch pin from the keyhole clip.
6. Pull the wires from inside the console until the wiring connector is clear of the body. An untrimmed wire tie on the cable will prevent the connector from falling back inside, when it too is pulled clear of the body.
7. Installation is the reverse of removal. Be sure to straighten the spring clips before you reinstall, so they are straight and parallel. Lightly lubing the latch pins helps, too.
INSTALLATION:
First, make sure the mirror spring wires are straight and parallel. If they are bent inward they may not catch the post,
and if they diverge or bend outward, the mirror will be loose. It can help to put a very tiny bit of lube on the outer,
conical part of the post only. I'm talking about a film here, not a glob. Make sure there is none on the back side (post notch).
Engage the keyhole slot first. Then rap downward firmly (but politely) on the outer edge of the mirror to seat the bottom latch.
Now rap forward on the outer edge of the mirror to seat the front latch. You can rap a little harder than you can taking the
mirrors off, because they won't fly across the room, but don't get carried away. Problems seating the latches are usually
caused by bent spring wires.

 

[Firefly]

Sorry, you just have not learned how to remove and replace them yet. You do not need to smack anything and nothing breaks taking them off or installing.

Disagree. Many out here, including myself have broken those stupid mounts, bent spring clips, etc. It's a terrible system... that WILL break after you remove and replace them too many times.

 

[Bob Denman]

Dan,
I've broken two of the clips...
One with the back of my head. pps:
One with my ham-fisted nature. :banghead:
But Scotty's instructions DO work! nojoke :thumbup:

 

[Firefly]

Here's the only pics I took of the inside before putting it all back together. Next time I pull them off I'll post more complete photos.... but you could hang off of my mirrors like a monkey and they won't come off! The bolts I used screw right into where the mounting posts used to go.

 

[garb55]

It would be possible to use a new attaching method utilizing the existing housings. That might be the best way possible. I have also toyed with the idea of mirror extensions. Move the mirrors out farther (1-2") and set a foolproof locking method in the gap that could have some sort of cover that would slip into the void, maybe snapping into place. Plenty of room to secure the mirrors several different ways then.

Now you said the magic word .... extensions
Most GS RS riders put aftermarket mirror extensions on their bikes
If you could design a mirror extension for the RT that looks good and easy to remove and install and strong at a reasonable price I think you would have a large market
No one has anything for the RT mirror

 

[robmorg]

It would be possible to use a new attaching method utilizing the existing housings. That might be the best way possible. I have also toyed with the idea of mirror extensions. Move the mirrors out farther (1-2") and set a foolproof locking method in the gap that could have some sort of cover that would slip into the void, maybe snapping into place. Plenty of room to secure the mirrors several different ways then.

I was sort of half kidding when I said that you should re-design the entire mirror. But NOW this thread is getting interesting. The flimsy plastic housing clips aside, if you could design a 1-inch extension with a better, easier, more secure way of mounting them, I'd bet you'd sell a large amount of those. :thumbup: NOBODY likes the ridiculously clumsy and failure prone design BRP has given us. :sour:

 

[Roadster Renovations]

I was sort of half kidding when I said that you should re-design the entire mirror. But NOW this thread is getting interesting. The flimsy plastic housing clips aside, if you could design a 1-inch extension with a better, easier, more secure way of mounting them, I'd bet you'd sell a large amount of those. :thumbup: NOBODY likes the ridiculously clumsy and failure prone design BRP has given us. :sour:

Well, parts are ordered and when they get here it will be time to go to the LA..BOR...A...TORY!!!:yikes::yikes::yikes:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUT

Here's some printed instructions that I find to be very useful... :thumbup:

Most damage to the keyhole clips comes from improper or overly physical removal of the mirrors. I have never broken a clip on two RT's, although the mirrors have been removed frequently. To remove without damage I recommend the following:
1. Place one hand at the back of the mirror near the outer edge of the glass. This hand should apply light pressure toward the front to keep you from moving the mirror to far and breaking the clip.
2. With the other hand, rap against the front puter edge to pop the front spring clip loose. I describe the force of the hit as "firm, but gentle". A sharp, short rap is all you need. Do not tug or push, and be sure to resist with the other hand.
3. Move the backup hand to the top outer portion of the housing.
4. From underneath, rap upward with the other hand to pop the lower spring clip loose.
5. Gently lift straight up on the mirror assembly, about 1/2", then pull outward to slip the latch pin from the keyhole clip.
6. Pull the wires from inside the console until the wiring connector is clear of the body. An untrimmed wire tie on the cable will prevent the connector from falling back inside, when it too is pulled clear of the body.
7. Installation is the reverse of removal. Be sure to straighten the spring clips before you reinstall, so they are straight and parallel. Lightly lubing the latch pins helps, too.
INSTALLATION:
First, make sure the mirror spring wires are straight and parallel. If they are bent inward they may not catch the post,
and if they diverge or bend outward, the mirror will be loose. It can help to put a very tiny bit of lube on the outer,
conical part of the post only. I'm talking about a film here, not a glob. Make sure there is none on the back side (post notch).
Engage the keyhole slot first. Then rap downward firmly (but politely) on the outer edge of the mirror to seat the bottom latch.
Now rap forward on the outer edge of the mirror to seat the front latch. You can rap a little harder than you can taking the
mirrors off, because they won't fly across the room, but don't get carried away. Problems seating the latches are usually
caused by bent spring wires.

Robert , have you put the KIT on that I sent you last year to fix all these problems ??????...Mike

 

[Bob Denman]

Mike, Those aren't problems; those are instructions from Scotty on the easiest way to take them off, and put them on the bike... :thumbup:

 

[stillriding]

Now you said the magic word .... extensions
Most GS RS riders put aftermarket mirror extensions on their bikes
If you could design a mirror extension for the RT that looks good and easy to remove and install and strong at a reasonable price I think you would have a large market
No one has anything for the RT mirror

​I'd buy the extensions in a minute!

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

Mike, Those aren't problems; those are instructions from Scotty on the easiest way to take them off, and put them on the bike... :thumbup:

So what did you do with the kit / parts ?????