Summer is back - yes boiling gas again :(

[Jeriatric]

Hope it is repaired to your satisfaction, and

Either all of you have too much time and money on your hands to be adding this, and removing that, or, your just a bunch of saps.

JMO

glad you got that off your chest :roflblack: :joke:

 

[larrymz3]

After reading all of these posts I figured I put in my 2 cents. Have mine in the shop today for the issue. Told them I want all documentation of what is being done to fix. Also in contact with BRP directly. Should it not be fixed I will go back two more times. Still not fixed, I will use the lemon law. I can't believe everyone here will spend 25K+ And still put out more of their hard earned money, and time to TRY and repair something that is apparently unrepairable. I didn't buy this thing as a project to work on, as a bunch are suggesting, I bought it to ride. I own a small company and I bought this in hopes to relieve some stress, but it is adding more. Either all of you have too much time and money on your hands to be adding this, and removing that, or, your just a bunch of saps.

JMO

Good luck with that!

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[TuckMiddle]

My 2011 RT-SM5 started having horrible fumes and dripping, not just drops, about March, 2012. Never knowingly overfilled it, as it takes too long to get it above about 5.2 or so. Anyway, changed canister, filter, wrap everything, sheets of heat stuff on tank, etc, and ran the tube to the rear to get the gas away from the pipes and CAT. Still dripped, smelled and had to leave it out sometimes. Second canister and more things covered with heat sheets and BRP said "too bad, because we don't have a problem, you do." Did the canisterectomy and it all stopped.
Please don't ask me why, I don't know except that it worked and continues to work 2 years later with 45,000 miles on it. Did the CAT also to reduce heat about a year ago and it helped a little, but my thighs were red as a lobster on Monday with OAT of mid 80s and also on Tues - did 260 miles or more each day in the north GA hills/mini mountains. I'm really happy with the elimination of fumes, smell and dripping and being able to use the garage doors again to keep the critters and birds out. My tom cat took care of critters most of the time. Heat is sometimes a problem, not always , that continues to confuse me. I put the adjustable vents on, heat shield on lower right and have the adjustable windshield also, etc. BRP really needs to wake up and put a fan under the cowl or some such simple solution. The old CB 750 Hondas were hot, but nothin like the Spyder on occasion, my legs were like crab legs this week and it was barely hot out.
This is the only lingering problem the Spyder has had. Couple weeks of check eng light lately, tech nailed it yesterday and found a corroded connector to the fuel pump regulator, which shut off the fuel pump for a micro second, fluctuated the voltage for another micro second, which shut off the steering motor for several minutes at a time, but no light. Everything suggested voltage reg or magneto problem, but he noticed a past reference to PO174 on BUDS and followed that to the regulator. Bike ran like a charm the whole time. Sounds crazy, but all is well as far as I can tell, which of course, proves nothing. Time will tell.
Tuck

 

[2ndChildhood]

I have a 2012 RTL and had the gas smell problem from day one. A friend has a 2012 RTS and never had the gas problem. The only different that we do is I always run premium gas and he always using regular gas. Also he always tops off the tank (fills the tank to the very top). My question is does premium gas burn hotter than regular gas?


ToM

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[finless]

I have a 2012 RTL and had the gas smell problem from day one. A friend has a 2012 RTS and never had the gas problem. The only different that we do is I always run premium gas and he always using regular gas. Also he always tops off the tank (fills the tank to the very top). My question is does premium gas burn hotter than regular gas?


ToM

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I can't say for sure but have read many posts here arguing this point to the N'th level. I have tried all 3 octanes my state has. As I recall it's 87, 89, and 91. No difference that I could see in temps and I tried it for several tanks at a time. I commute to work and have the ability to try things like that over a short period of time. I have to fill up 3 times a week. Only difference I noticed between the octanes was the difference in exhaust smell when sitting at a light and the wind puts it up my nose. I prefer 91 for that issue which is not a design issue more a preference.

Bob

 

[Magdave]

I have a 2012 RTL and had the gas smell problem from day one. A friend has a 2012 RTS and never had the gas problem. The only different that we do is I always run premium gas and he always using regular gas. Also he always tops off the tank (fills the tank to the very top). My question is does premium gas burn hotter than regular gas?


ToM

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The higher the octane the lower the boiling point is the only difference. Higher octane does not ignite as easily which is what causes knock...pre ignition.

 

[3 Wheel Addict]

The higher the octane the lower the boiling point is the only difference. Higher octane does not ignite as easily which is what causes knock...pre ignition.

prevents knock... not causes it. I think you know this but your wording reads wrong.

 

[flamingobabe]

well I'll jump in as a 2013 ST owner.....we have been dealing with melted parts before BRP found a fix and had the recall.....Mark fabricated a heat shield that is 3 times larger than the BRP shield...he has wrapped the exhaust, ceramic coated heat shield the tank, found wheel bearings that would not turn...gas fumes....park spyder outside for 2 hours before putting in shop....have had gas boiling and cap 176 degrees...I can go on and on.......but with the flash on the ECM gas cap was on the hot side of warm and new air flow 2014 panels the gas cap is cool to the touch....riding 400 miles in 85 to 90 degrees...we are cautiously optimistic.....hoping for the best.. .but we are entering 90++ degrees from now till October....we will see what happens....bottom line...is I try to work with BRP to get things fixed and some things are successful and others...there is no fix.....I do not accept it's normal to have all these problems...but we have learned that Mark finds solutions to more defects than BRP has....plus I had an O2 sensor blow.....and they would not replace the pipe...only the sensor....we feel that is a Band-Aid.....but clattering and shaking still happens....have used all 3 levels of gas...no difference except $$$$

 

[Magdave]

prevents knock... not causes it. I think you know this but your wording reads wrong.

:agree: As I wrote Pre ignition causes knock/ping and that is caused by low octane in a high compression cylinder.