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Spyder in the snow

Snow is for SKIING ( well snow mobiling also). The mountain roads just above me are treacherous when snow covered. Usually snow falls afe measured in feet not inches. Could your imagine the "tail of the Dragon" with 6" of snow--- on a :spyder2:????? Not me. I'll stick with AWD and snow tires to take me to the ski resort.

Kaos

There is a level at which I would not even drive a car, but obviously I am not talking about 6" of snow, the bike would shovel until it got stuck, just like a car.
 
I assumed because you are so quick to dismiss anything that doesn't fit your definition of right. If snow is out of the question, I figured that your level of comfort is relegated to the easy chair. You keep defending the idea that snow riding is not safe or smart, but have never tried it, and are unwilling to allow that others might want to are anything but fools. Studded tires ARE legal in lots of places, so what is your point?

It isn't about "proving" anything to anyone but yourself, or myself. If the concept of snow riding offends your sensibilities, try something that appears to not be possible for you, ignore the subject. Others might have an interest in it.
Once again: how do you know that I haven't tried it?
What makes you think that I'm not speaking from personal experience?
Have you tried it yet?
 
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I live in upstate SC. I got my 2014 RTL on Christmas eve 2014. Those first few weeks I was so anxious to ride it up in the mountains...and did...in the snow (OEM tires). Cars had worn the usual double tracks through the snow...you know where you have two tracks with little to no snow and you keep your tires in those two "ruts" !?!
Well that works ok for Spyder front tires (sorta kinda)...but the rear tire spins out in the middle where the snow and ice is still there. I got back from that ride ok but during that ride, several times took a deep breath and said a prayer. I would never reccomend to a Spyder rider to risk that. It's just not worth the risk.
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Sorry, could't figure how to get the pic right side up :-) But then again, maybe that's a warning for how you end up driving in the snow Lol!

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Once again: how do you know that I haven't tried it?
What makes you think that I'm not speaking from personal experience?
Have you tried it yet?

Because, you would have said so. No way you would not have told us all about it.

If I had tried it I would not be asking the questions, now would I?
 
You do assume an awful lot... nojoke

Come back: after you've tried it... :thumbup:

No way. You would have posted it already. Talk is cheap. I highly doubt you have used studded tires on your Spyder. No, I KNOW you have not, so just stop with the BS will you?
 
I never said that I tried studded tires...
(For the record: I don't put them on our "Cage" either...)
As I said: come back with a valid piece of experience, and we'll compare notes. nojoke
 
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I never said that I tried studded tires...
(For the record: I don't put them on our "Cage" either...)
As I said: come back with a valid piece of experience, and we'll compare notes. nojoke

Bob, reread what you did say,

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Originally Posted by Bob Denman Once again: how do you know that I haven't tried it?
What makes you think that I'm not speaking from personal experience?
Have you tried it yet?
This looks like you are saying you did. Now stop, if you had done it we would know. You post so much that we all practically know your bowel movement schedule.

I was ASKING a question that you have no actual answer to, except to poopoo the question. If you don't have any ACTUAL experience, then why are you giving me a hard time over it? :rolleyes:

It seems to me that a Spyder drives more like a car than a motorcycle, and studs work on cars, so why is it blowing your mind that I am interested in how they would work on a Spyder, and why are you so against it?

And people wonder why the posting is dropping off, when they can't even discuss new ideas. It isn't like I am asking someone to do it, or wondering why their Spyder doesn't have wings! :rolleyes:
 
What does the use of studded tires have to do with trying your bike out in the snow?
Cindy from TricLED just posted in video in the RT Touring Section. Watch how easily that bike spins the rear tire, and skates around...

This entire conversation with you is growing tiresome, and I apologize to everyone else who had had to endure it...
I'm just going to put you on my ignore list now...
Have a great day, and ride safe! :thumbup:
 
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Sure, dodge out when confronted with the facts.

Please, do ignore me, I appreciate your lack of constant dogged irritation.
 
Oh, and back to the actual point of this thread (which I was attempting to address).

Does anyone know if there are any snow tires or chains for the Spyder. I have a 2013 se5 limited
Thanks

Leo

Leo, I am not sure chains would fit on the tires and clear the fenders, but maybe someone who has actually tried it can comment.

Most any tires can be studded, if legal in your state.
 
Bob, reread what you did say,


This looks like you are saying you did. Now stop, if you had done it we would know. You post so much that we all practically know your bowel movement schedule.

I was ASKING a question that you have no actual answer to, except to poopoo the question. If you don't have any ACTUAL experience, then why are you giving me a hard time over it? :rolleyes:

It seems to me that a Spyder drives more like a car than a motorcycle, and studs work on cars, so why is it blowing your mind that I am interested in how they would work on a Spyder, and why are you so against it?

And people wonder why the posting is dropping off, when they can't even discuss new ideas. It isn't like I am asking someone to do it, or wondering why their Spyder doesn't have wings! :rolleyes:

Did you miss my earlier post where I stated my dealer tried studded tires on his :spyder2: back in 2008? Drove it to work one time on an icy/snow covered highway. He thought the better of it and also decided to park the :spyder: for the rest of the season. He studded all three tires, and they are allowed in Alaska.

Also wondering about insurance issues if a claim is made for damage or injury. Would the insurance companies cover it if a claim was made, since there is a disclaimer from BRP (posted earlier) in the owners manual?
 
Did you miss my earlier post where I stated my dealer tried studded tires on his :spyder2: back in 2008? Drove it to work one time on an icy/snow covered highway. He thought the better of it and also decided to park the :spyder: for the rest of the season. He studded all three tires, and they are allowed in Alaska.

Also wondering about insurance issues if a claim is made for damage or injury. Would the insurance companies cover it if a claim was made, since there is a disclaimer from BRP (posted earlier) in the owners manual?

Actually I did miss that. I thought he just installed snow tires. Thanks! :thumbup:

I mostly ignore the million warnings about that kind of thing in owners manuals. Written by and for lawyers.
 
Actually I did miss that. I thought he just installed snow tires. Thanks! :thumbup:

I mostly ignore the million warnings about that kind of thing in owners manuals. Written by and for lawyers.

And just for the record, I am considered a die-hard when it comes to :spyder2: riding. I ride later (until the secondary roads are covered with ice) and earlier (once the ice is gone off the secondary roads) than most people here. I am a March/November rider. Most are May/September types. September 30 is a kind of "official" park the bike time for 90% of the riders. It's to "cold" to ride. :roflblack::roflblack:
 
Also wondering about insurance issues if a claim is made for damage or injury. Would the insurance companies cover it if a claim was made, since there is a disclaimer from BRP (posted earlier) in the owners manual?
If you tried to institute a lawsuit for injuries or damage: They'd just point their entire legal department at you, and ask you why you ignored the warnings in the manual. nojoke
 
Now you have me wondering if this would be a good all around good tire for wet conditions. I love the siping!! I bet it would wear out fast though lol.
That is a very similar tread design to the Michelin Alpin that is very popular for darkside Goldwing folks. I got over 20 k out of one on my wing and it was still going when I sold it. Sticks like glue in all conditions and is very smooth.
 
We used to ride dirt bikes on a frozen lake by our house. We learned that studs in the tires were awesome on the ice, but they did absolutely nothing in the slush and snow.


With the front tires of the Spyder you might be able to get in the ruts or clearer spots made by other vehicles, but that rear tire would be making a path all on its own through the deepest sloppiest part of the road. I can't see it getting any traction in that and would think it would handle like a rear tire in a constant hydroplane.

Here are comments from an article at http://www.tirebuyer.com/education/studded-winter-tires


"So which is better, studded tires or winter tires? It depends. According to Pemco Insurance, studies show that studded tires perform best on clear ice in temperatures around the freezing mark, while winter tires deliver the best handling and braking when the temperature is below freezing, on both wet and dry pavement"

"And there’s another potential safety issue – on roads that are simply wet and not icy or snow-covered, studded tires have been proven to have reduced stopping ability when compared to standard tires."
 
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