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so i pulled another one

Glad this has come to a mutual agreement type of ending. I look forward to posts from both. When I read something that I may disagree strongly with--I just let it go or make a slight comment. Tomorrow is another day.
 
Glad this has come to a mutual agreement type of ending. I look forward to posts from both. When I read something that I may disagree strongly with--I just let it go or make a slight comment. Tomorrow is another day.


I disagree .............................. Tomorrow is the day after yesterday. :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

Cruzr Joe
 
Dang! :gaah: I missed a fight!

Since it was a difference/misunderstanding between two of my favorite SpyderLovers, I'm glad it's cleared up.

And I'm glad I didn't get into the middle of it. [I might have gotten hurt.]



Knowing you ............................. The plot would have thickened. :yikes::yikes::yikes:

Cruzr Joe
 
Old geezer is about right, Joe, but you forgot to add "complete with colostomy bag!!" :roflblack:



The only good thing to say about that is at least you are still alive & mobile, Good Luck My Friend from across the pond.

Cruzr Joe
 
:agree::agree::agree::agree: :2thumbs:

If you were to fling the contents of the bag at an individual who was trying to rob you: would that be an Assault with a :cus: weapon? :D


You can decide to put whatever term fits in there; for ":cus:".
 
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Ok. Who determines who is a "old geezer"? I might consider myself one in certain situations, but I still think I'm 18...... Until I look in the mirror.:banghead:
 

Well just for information purposes, I have a laser thermometer and the pavement/asphalt here on a 110-120 degree day usually reads 165- 180 degrees. That is the temperature of boiling water. The kid had no shoes on and was held down by his wrists and legs/feet. I would call this shear stupidity on the officers part as living here he would of known this. There were no weapons brandished and no threat to the cops life existed. IMO this is simply police brutality and beyond common sense. (third degree burns on hands and feet) (permanent scars and skin grafts)

Sure the kids doing 90 and totally wrong, was slow to slow down. He did ask if he could put his shoes on while getting out of the car and this was taken as resisting arrest. Cop could have moved him to a spot where it was not as hot (off the asphalt) to prevent the physical damage that was done. Cop was pissed at the kid and way too forceful than needed to be.

Simply put this was wrong, wrong, wrong. Some of these cops are watching too many cop shows on TV and trying to emulate them with too much force and brutality. Not saying all but a fair percentage. The kid was totally wrong and so was the cop. Sorry Joe but like you, I am expressing my opinion also. I have personally been on both sides and am speaking from my own experiences and observations.

It would be hard for people who do not live here to understand the intense heat generated in the asphalt on a 110-120 degree day. Yep it's true ,you can fry an egg on the asphalt or get severely burned by just touching your car or anything else that might generate heat. The Officer involved knew this if he lived here which he did. The kid was hollering he was getting burned the entire time and was ignored by the cop.

Jack


 
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But had the little nit-wit complied in the first place: there would have been no need to put him in cuffs under these conditions. :thumbup:
 
Hi Jack,

Re: Simply put this was wrong, wrong, wrong.

I agree 100%.

Here is what I posted in another forum on this:

I am a licensed engineer, been one since 1978. Each year I get a 'flyer/pamphlet' from the licensing board. In it, it has details on those engineers who have lost their license or had it suspended. It just astounds me how some of them could do such stupid things. However, we have a system in place to deal with them.

I contend that we do not have an adequate system, short of a civil action, to deal with those ~1% thugs who wear the blue uniform.

I like my local police dept. I accept that they probably do have a couple of thugs who should never be allowed to do police work.

Jerry Baumchen
 

Well just for information purposes, I have a laser thermometer and the pavement/asphalt here on a 110-120 degree day usually reads 165- 180 degrees. That is the temperature of boiling water. The kid had no shoes on and was held down by his wrists and legs/feet. I would call this shear stupidity on the officers part as living here he would of known this. There were no weapons brandished and no threat to the cops life existed. IMO this is simply police brutality and beyond common sense. (third degree burns on hands and feet) (permanent scars and skin grafts)

Sure the kids doing 90 and totally wrong, was slow to slow down. He did ask if he could put his shoes on while getting out of the car and this was taken as resisting arrest. Cop could have moved him to a spot where it was not as hot (off the asphalt) to prevent the physical damage that was done. Cop was pissed at the kid and way too forceful than needed to be.

Simply put this was wrong, wrong, wrong. Some of these cops are watching too many cop shows on TV and trying to emulate them with too much force and brutality. Not saying all but a fair percentage. The kid was totally wrong and so was the cop. Sorry Joe but like you, I am expressing my opinion also. I have personally been on both sides and am speaking from my own experiences and observations.

It would be hard for people who do not live here to understand the intense heat generated in the asphalt on a 110-120 degree day. Yep it's true ,you can fry an egg on the asphalt or get severely burned by just touching your car or anything else that might generate heat. The Officer involved knew this if he lived here which he did. The kid was hollering he was getting burned the entire time and was ignored by the cop.

Jack

Another Monday morning quarterback

How about this, Jack

1 - The guy was reckless driving (that is why he was pulled over).
2 - The Cop had no decision in the driver not wearing shoes.
3 - We don't know how they got into a resisting arrest situation, but when it happens, the cop has to deal with it right then and there.
4 - We don't know what the Cop may have known at the time of the stop.
5 - With the situation of cops being killed lately all Cops are on guard and have do handle the situation as it presents itself.
6 - Nowhere in this report is the Guy considered a "KID" he is an adult.
7 - All this video guy knows is what is on his video that you can clearly see he started taping before he even came to a stop.


Sorry Jack, but you were not there and neither of us know the whole story. So to judge one without knowledge is ............................ (you fill in the blank)

And until it is proven that the Officer was in the Wrong, I will stand with him.

Cruzr Joe
 
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