PMK
Active member
Yes sir dumbed down. Like so many other things.
-
There were many reasons for the change of the site software, the biggest was security. The age of the old software also meant no server updates for certain programs. There are many benefits to the new software, one of the biggest is the mobile functionality. Ill fix up some stuff in the coming days, we'll also try to get some of the old addons back or the data imported back into the site like the garage. To create a thread or to reply with a post is basically the same as it was in the prior software. The default style of the site is light colored, but i temporarily added a darker colored style, to change you can find a link at the bottom of the site.
Sideways wind
- Thread starter Jcummins
- Start date
Yes sir dumbed down. Like so many other things.
IdahoMtnSpyder
Active member
Being advertised as a 1977 advertisement. Check out the lower right corner.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bell-Helme...626360?hash=item45fc6b2f78:g:Ae8AAOSwGtRX0TIf
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bell-Helme...626360?hash=item45fc6b2f78:g:Ae8AAOSwGtRX0TIf
bigbadbrucie
New member
I, for one, feel that this topic has been beaten to death. Arguing terminology....what EXACTLY is a Full Face helmet, what EXACTLY is an Open Face helmet and what EXACTLY is a Modular Helmet? Who cares. Use the type of helmet your comfortable with (as long as you obey the law). There is no right or wrong...it’s your head/your choice.
canamjhb
Well-known member
Something effecting head buffeting not mentioned is the size of the helmet. I have a couple helmets. Both fit me well. One has a much larger shell size. The smaller one is much more comfortable in windy conditions. The larger one has more features and would be better, I supposed, if I were sliding down the highway on my noggin..... Jim
IIRC, it was actually Bell who invented & introduced this type of helmet back in 1968/69 or thereabouts - and IIRC they called it a 'Full-face Helmet' waaayy back then.
. These types of helmets have certainly been widely called 'Full Face Helmets' ever since my involvement with motorcycles, racing, & other activities requiring helmets became pretty serious in the early '70's, and even when I became more active in 'the design & testing of things' involved with the automotive industry, sports, etc... in my presence & experience, they've ALWAYS been called 'Full Face Helmets' by the users and by the inventors/designers/manufacturers of said helmets. :dontknow: But as BBrucie mentions, the specific terminology you might chose to use to label any particular style of helmet isn't really important just so long as the majority of those reading/concerned understand what you're going on about; altho I'd also argue that the differing levels of protection provided by the various types of helmets may be pretty important to anyone wondering/concerned about which is 'best' at protecting their heads - especially when we're talking about the differing levels of protection regarding head buffeting by side-on or cross winds.... which is really the point of this thread, isn't it?!?
Regardless of whatever term you might personally choose to call them or whichever helmet style/type you might personally choose to wear or not (excluding any discussion/consideration of the addition of the 'Adventure Rider' style peaks) then the modern helmet type which is currently most often referred to as 'Full Face Helmets' is likely to provide the most streamlined protection & therefore be the least effected by cross winds, closely followed by 'Modular Helmets', then 'Open Face Helmets', & finally by 'Half or Cavalry Helmets' (& there endeth the list of those I have experience with & so am considering re this discussion, but only cos I'm not considering any Off-Road or Adventure style Helmets or additions in this particular discussion
) That said, as canamjhb suggests, anything that increases the size & weight of the lump that your neck & shoulders hasta carry while you ride juuust might make you feel as tho you need to work a bit harder to hold said lump erect while riding in strong &/or gusty cross wind conditions, so choosing something that's fully streamlined & lightweight, with a smooth profile & few protruberances or unsealed openings to catch the wind, cross or otherwise, as you ride is probably a pretty good idea!
. And I'd guess at just about any 'modern' helmet type being somewhat better at resisting catching cross winds than a peaked cap, but that's just a guess on my behalf, since I very rarely ride with just a peaked cap on my head. :thumbup:
Last edited:
PMK
Active member
It is a game of egos and the ability of keyboard strength to gang up and show strength. It is the internet. Everyone gets to shine their participation trophy. For me, seems the same several people constantly waste their lives to prove me wrong. Honestly, I can care less.
As for helmet buffeting in crosswinds, or direct at you from the front, there are man factors. Riders height, helmet shape in regards to aerodynamics, windscreen height, speed, surrounding vehicles, riders strength to support the helmet and likely more.
If you wear a helmet, get one that fits correctly, has good visibility, offers the ability to hear that you desire, is as light as possible within your budget, and has applicable safety ratings desired. For proper fit, it often requires buying different size cheek pads or other pads that may be offered. If you do not prefer to wear a helmet, and are not required to where you live, that’s fine too. Not my head so enjoy.
IdahoMtnSpyder
Active member
1968 from what I could find. Apparently they were the first truly serious helmet manufacturer who focused on maximum head protection. The ad above is the earliest I could find where "Full face" was explicitly used.
One thing I learned from this exercise in researching the terminology is that Bell is not a second tier 2-bit brand bicycle only helmet maker. Why I thought that I don't know.
Similar threads
