She won't start

[bscrive]

It does sound like your battery has bit the dust. You should be able to turn it over several times with out any problems. Just do not leave the starter on for more than 10 seconds or you could burn it out.

Also, try not to turn the key off and on too many times or you will get gas in the oil and then you will have to change the oil to get it started. If you have too much gas in the oil, the engine will stay flooded and it will not start. nojoke

If you have a warmer area that you could bring the bike into, that would help. The big problem here is that the colder a battery is the less power it has to turn the bike over.

You only need 3 things for an engine to run. Spark, compression and gas. We know you are getting gas, by the smell. I don't think your engine is bad so you must have compression so the only thing you are lacking is spark which comes from the battery. If your battery cannot deliver enough power to turn the bike over and deliver enough to the coils then it won't start.

It may help if you can take the plugs out and dry them off, crank the engine over a couple of times to get rid of any gas in the cylinders and then replace the plugs. Just hold the throttle at full so gas is not put back in the cylinders when the plugs are out and you hit the starter.

Brian

 

[Noral]

OK experts. Here I am with 40 and 50 degree days..no snow on roads and Ms Spyder has an "attitude" and will NOT start. Have on trickle charger...Tries to turn over but won't catch...one good try, one weak, then the digital screen goes grey and striped. Immediate strong gas smell...like it is flooding out. This is the original battery. Almost 70k . 2010 RTSE5. I am 200 miles from dealer over 2 mountain passes and no trailer.
If this was you where would you start. I can feel a "nasty attitude" coming my way if I can't ryde...:banghead::banghead:. Soooo I come to you with humble (teachable) request. EEEEKKKKK murphybrown is getting desperate to ryde. Thanks I'll try anything and everything!!!! :bowdown: to all you gurus..

If you might need a battery their is an interstate battery place in Chelan,Wa


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Cycle-Tron Plus High Performance - 21 AH » Part # they show is FAYTX24HL



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Mill Bay Marine & Rv
2245 Sr 150
Chelan, WA 98816
(509) 687-2628
Open Saturday: No
Open Sunday: No
Distance: 1.69 Miles

 

[billybovine]

Wow, it turns over and won't start until eventually the battery goes dead. Now somehow that's the battery's fault. Come on people, really!!!!

Charge the battery up or hook up booster cables. Do a wide open throttle start procedure (WOT). Hold the throttle wide open then press the start button and let it crank for 30 seconds max. If it did not start wait 1 minute to let the starter cool and then do it again, max three times. If it still did not start then try a normal start. The WOT procedure turns the fuel injectors off helping to clear a flooded engine of fuel.

Good Luck.

 

[bscrive]

Wow, it turns over and won't start until eventually the battery goes dead. Now somehow that's the battery's fault. Come on people, really!!!!

Charge the battery up or hook up booster cables. Do a wide open throttle start procedure (WOT). Hold the throttle wide open then press the start button and let it crank for 30 seconds max. If it did not start wait 1 minute to let the starter cool and then do it again, max three times. If it still did not start then try a normal start. The WOT procedure turns the fuel injectors off helping to clear a flooded engine of fuel.

Good Luck.

Billy,

Murphy said that he only gets one good cranking, a week one and then nothing. To me, unless he is cranking the engine for a minute, that is a battery problem.

 

[wyliec]

I think billybovine has a good idea and doesn't require taking the spyder a part. If it doesn't work, no foul.

Something similar happened to my gf's car. I did what billybovine suggests and it started. Will it work in this case? It won't hurt.

 

[ARtraveler]

Hope you get it solved. It also sounds to me like you are ready for a new battery. I was thinking the same about my 2010 which still has the original in it. Hoping I do not have to replace it prior to trade in.

Please keep us posted.

 

[murphybrown]

Joe Joe Joe

you could move closer to someone who likes to wrench on these things. :roflblack:

Cruzr Joe

You make me :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

 

[murphybrown]

Now look at that..

If you might need a battery their is an interstate battery place in Chelan,Wa


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I did not even know they had batteries...so giving them a call. they are about 7 mi from me...no biggie...truck running fine!!!! Thanks so much.



1
Mill Bay Marine & Rv
2245 Sr 150
Chelan, WA 98816
(509) 687-2628
Open Saturday: No
Open Sunday: No
Distance: 1.69 Miles

I did not even know they had batteries...so giving them a call. they are about 7 mi from me...no biggie...truck running fine!!!! Thanks so much.

 

[BMW]

same problem

OK experts. Here I am with 40 and 50 degree days..no snow on roads and Ms Spyder has an "attitude" and will NOT start. Have on trickle charger...Tries to turn over but won't catch...one good try, one weak, then the digital screen goes grey and striped. Immediate strong gas smell...like it is flooding out. This is the original battery. Almost 70k . 2010 RTSE5. I am 200 miles from dealer over 2 mountain passes and no trailer.
If this was you where would you start. I can feel a "nasty attitude" coming my way if I can't ryde...:banghead::banghead:. Soooo I come to you with humble (teachable) request. EEEEKKKKK murphybrown is getting desperate to ryde. Thanks I'll try anything and everything!!!! :bowdown: to all you gurus..

No gurus here . But had the same problem last month, the spark plugs were fowled according to the mach. I took it to the dealer but that's only 8 miles away. not 200 good luck finding the answer.

 

[murphybrown]

I might be playing my great grannie card SOONER than LATER

..Thanks for all the input. I am going for "it's the battery"....now the next thing I need is the link to Lamont's video on "how to"...I can't find with my search!!! :banghead::banghead: Then I am going to watch repeatedly...get out my fancy little tool kit (that Lamont recommended many moon ago and I bought...think it is still in the shrink wrap!!!) and see what happens....and if I get :banghead::banghead: then I'm thinking it will be time for the great grannie card to come out!!! Will keep you all posted...
Spyderlovers you ROCK...:bowdown::bowdown: Will keep you posted....

 

[bluestratos]

Hi Carol,

Randy here, your riding buddy from Lynden, lol.....

If you are not comfortable removing the panels then do as has been suggested, jump and get to a dealer. That being said, you are quite a ways from one. If I recall you had a new battery installed earlier this year or was that Rabbit? If it is a weak battery jumping it and driving should be fine but if the terminals are loose then you should tighten first as it can cause some really weird codes/limp mode which could stand you along the way. If you like I can walk you through how to get to the battery terminals for tightening as a precaution. I have all the screws memorized as I have taken mine down to the frame many, many times, lol. You only need a few tools and I can run you through those as well.

By the way, you said it turns over but does not catch. How fast is it turning over, about like normal or very slow. If it is normal chances are it is not the battery. For a quick charge you can use a standard 5-10 amp battery charger, just limit it to 20 minutes or so. These are not small batteries so it will not harm them.

If you suspect it has been flooded hold the throttle wide open while cranking, If I recall the fly by wire is programed to go wide open to allow for clearing out the excess fuel. I had it happened once with mine, I cranked wide open for 10 seconds, let it sit for a minute then cranked normal and it fired right up.

Good luck, call me if you need to 360 815-4232. My mother-in-law went into the hospital this morning and they say she may pass away today (she is 93) so if I don't answer that would be the only reason why.

Take care good buddy

 

[jerpinoy]

Don't mess around ,get a new battery and make sure your alternator is working properly. Local part store will check for free. Good luck.

 

[murphybrown]

Not me

Hi Carol,

Randy here, your riding buddy from Lynden, lol.....

If you are not comfortable removing the panels then do as has been suggested, jump and get to a dealer. That being said, you are quite a ways from one. If I recall you had a new battery installed earlier this year or was that Rabbit? If it is a weak battery jumping it and driving should be fine but if the terminals are loose then you should tighten first as it can cause some really weird codes/limp mode which could stand you along the way. If you like I can walk you through how to get to the battery terminals for tightening as a precaution. I have all the screws memorized as I have taken mine down to the frame many, many times, lol. You only need a few tools and I can run you through those as well.

By the way, you said it turns over but does not catch. How fast is it turning over, about like normal or very slow. If it is normal chances are it is not the battery. For a quick charge you can use a standard 5-10 amp battery charger, just limit it to 20 minutes or so. These are not small batteries so it will not harm them.

If you suspect it has been flooded hold the throttle wide open while cranking, If I recall the fly by wire is programed to go wide open to allow for clearing out the excess fuel. I had it happened once with mine, I cranked wide open for 10 seconds, let it sit for a minute then cranked normal and it fired right up.

Good luck, call me if you need to 360 815-4232. My mother-in-law went into the hospital this morning and they say she may pass away today (she is 93) so if I don't answer that would be the only reason why.

Take care good buddy

Hi Randy...thanks for posting...Sorry to hear about your mother-in-law...letting go of a family member is always very hard. No, I did not get a new battery...must have been lil rabbit...when I try to start the rpms are around 600-800 (that is the strongest...first try). It would never stay cranked for 10 seconds..about 2 max and then the digital screen goes grey/striped. I called AAA to see about getting "her" hauled to Enumclaw. The gal I talked to insists that with the AAA Premium RV I get 4 services of any kind per year. I asked her...so if I need my bike hauled 4 times at 200 miles each AAA will pay...she said YES..and I asked her several different ways. Sometimes says :lecturef_smilie: so will call and talk to a different "agent" and see what the answer is. Cause if that is the case. I will have AAA take spyder to Clem's...let them fix it ...if not I will be calling you and let you walk me through removing the panels to get to battery.
Thanks for your offer...be prepared...heck why don't you and Don just drive over here for something to do!!!! :clap: Again thanks, Karyl

 

[NancysToy]

Better check your road-service policy. Some will only pick up if you break down on the road...not at home. You may have to shove your Spyder into the street. Be sure they will haul it even from there...some will haul to the nearest qualified repair facility or your home...whichever is closest. AAA is usually pretty good about just asking where you want to haul it, but check first to be sure.

 

[bluestratos]

Opps, spelled your name wrong Karyl, lol...

Well good chance it is your battery then, you have a lot of miles too,, 70,000 or more if I recall correctly. If you go gray screen after 2 seconds you are browning out. I wish I could come over and help... Hmmmmmmmmmm..... lol...

IF you do need to do it yourself it is actually very easy so just let me know. Of course you will need to drive to get a new battery first.

Be good

 

[murphybrown]

Ready or NOT

Okay here's the update guys. I have taken all this advice to heart. I have got the manual out on how to remove panels I have located appropriate screws and tools. So tomorrow morning after about my third cup of coffee I'm going in!!!!! :bowdown::roflblack::thumbup:
A major piece of information that I am lacking is how do I get the battery out once I get to it? :shocked: I know I knowray: Trust me I've already got that one down for this project. Plus I'm putting Randy on speed dial!!
if I don't post by 8 PM my time tomorrow send in the troops... It means Ms. Spyder won and I lost..:banghead:

 

[StanProff]

"Batteries Plus" stores in my area have batteries that fit the Spyder on the shelf. I'm not sure if they are a national chain though. My 2010 is still on the original battery so I stopped in their store just to check. I plan to replace mine before riding season this year.

 

[murphybrown]

AAA. One of the good ones

Better check your road-service policy. Some will only pick up if you break down on the road...not at home. You may have to shove your Spyder into the street. Be sure they will haul it even from there...some will haul to the nearest qualified repair facility or your home...whichever is closest. AAA is usually pretty good about just asking where you want to haul it, but check first to be sure.

thanks so much for the wise advice Scotty . I have double and triple check with AAA and the premier RV policy that I have will give me four services per year which if it's for 200 mile tows then it's for 200 miles or a combination of anything just a total of four per person per year. I also asked what if I break down in my garage and they said will push your rig out of the garage and load it up. A MapQuest shows that I'm 193 miles from my house to the dealers so I'm in the range. Yea AAA. :bowdown:

 

[Peter Aawen]

There's something that might help get your engine going, but it won't solve the long term battery problem, and it only works IF you can get at the top of the battery.

Open the seat and remove the cover panel so you can see the battery top & terminals, then go heat some water, about a litre is usually enough. Once the water is almost boiling, ie hot enough to make you keep your hand out of it but not necessarily bubbling madly yet, take the water off the heat and pour it over the top of the battery. Try not to splash it on you or anything that won't like too much water. Wait about 20 seconds after drowning the batter, then try starting the engine.

If the battery is mainly suffering from the cold, even if it's a bit old and ailing but not yet dead, adding some heat via almost boiling water like that can often be enough to get your vehicle started. It's worth a try I'd reckon, but do it sooner rather than later - if you keep on trying to start the engine without doing something like this, it will kill the battery, they really don't like sitting around half flat, and they don't really like a whole heap more being asked to start an engine when there's just not enough juice left in them to do it.

Good Luck

There again, maybe this only works in the snowfields/deserts Down Under - not that we have a heap of snow or freezing cold weather in Australia, but it does get to minus 10 Deg C every now and then!!

 

[NancysToy]

thanks so much for the wise advice Scotty . I have double and triple check with AAA and the premier RV policy that I have will give me four services per year which if it's for 200 mile tows then it's for 200 miles or a combination of anything just a total of four per person per year. I also asked what if I break down in my garage and they said will push your rig out of the garage and load it up. A MapQuest shows that I'm 193 miles from my house to the dealers so I'm in the range. Yea AAA. :bowdown:

:thumbup: Perfect!